13 Years of No BS Business Advice in 79 Mins
Summary
TLDRThe speaker shares condensed insights from 13 years of business experience, covering strategic tips for entrepreneurs to succeed. A critical emphasis is placed on the power of pricing strategies, particularly leveraging extremely high-priced items to anchor customers' perceptions and subsequently lift sales of core offerings. Additionally, advertising is underscored as vital, especially at the start, to build awareness and refine offerings through customer feedback. Entrepreneurs are encouraged to initially focus on one customer segment and one effective marketing channel to streamline efforts, improve products, and build proof through customer testimonials, initially offering services for free to collect success stories that convert into paying customers. Price optimization is another crucial topic, as raising prices strategically can increase profitability while understanding that stress is an inevitable aspect of business. The video highlights the importance of investing in staff, unifying marketing and sales, exploiting 'sawdust'βor unused resources for new revenueβand ensuring well-structured operations with defined roles in acquisition, delivery, and operations.
Takeaways
- π‘ Create a very high-priced item in your offerings as a price anchor.
- π Advertise heavily to ensure people know about your business.
- π οΈ Refine and improve one product or service for a specific customer type.
- π Raising prices can increase profit but receive more 'no's.
- π Collect and use customer testimonials for strong proof of your offerings.
- π‘ Offer services or products for free initially to gather positive reviews.
- 𧩠Extend billing cycles to improve customer retention and cash flow.
- π° Utilize unused resources (sawdust) to develop new revenue streams.
- π₯ Address stress as an inevitable part of business life.
- π₯ Align sales and advertising for consistent customer acquisition efforts.
Timeline
- 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
The speaker, a successful entrepreneur with 13 years of experience, shares a strategy learned from a friend: have an extremely expensive, often unsellable item to anchor other prices on the menu. This price anchoring tactic increases sales of core offers. Additionally, it helps overcome fear of raising prices and seizing opportunities to attract customers willing to pay more.
- 00:05:00 - 00:10:00
Explored the importance of advertising relentlessly as people often don't know your existence, regardless of perceived widespread promotion. Emphasized learning from historical marketers like Henry Ford who overcame ad fatigue before consumers did. Advertise more and remind the audience of the message repeatedly rather than introducing new content, aiming for consistent brand reinforcement.
- 00:10:00 - 00:15:00
Introduced the '4x4' strategy: entrepreneurs should spend four hours daily on core outreach activities, whether one-on-one or mass outreach through content and ads. Importance of reaching $100,000 in monthly revenue before scaling beyond advertising efforts was emphasized. This stage requires consistent customer feedback to refine the product and fix business inefficiencies.
- 00:15:00 - 00:20:00
Before reaching $1 million annually, focus narrowly on one channel, one target customer (avatar), and one specific product. Avoid spreading resources across multiple businesses or products, which hinders focus. Concentrate efforts to fine-tune the selling process and understand the target audience deeply, delaying expansion or diversification plans until higher revenue levels are reached.
- 00:20:00 - 00:25:00
Optimizing operational systems happens after successful advertising strategies. Discussed personal practice of expanding only after maintaining revenue growth and fixing inefficiencies. Suggested integrating a second channel only after mastering and stabilizing the primary one to avoid undermining existing revenue streams. Overextending resources prematurely can stifle growth.
- 00:25:00 - 00:30:00
Reiterated the strategy to initially offer services or products for free to build credibility and gather testimonials. Emphasized learning through direct customer experiences without prior monetary exchange, which can later justify price increases. Provided examples of free trials evolving into full-scale, profitable offerings due to their proven value proposition and customer satisfaction.
- 00:30:00 - 00:35:00
Discussed the emphasis on acquiring proof over merely promising results. Strong testimonial inventory, ideally visual and recent, outweighs grand promises. Capturing and showcasing customer satisfaction moments creates compelling narratives that encourage prospective buyers. Use moments of highest satisfaction to solicit testimonials, and adjust pricing with the understanding of elasticity.
- 00:35:00 - 00:40:00
Raised issues with stagnant price models, emphasizing regular price tests to explore elasticity and profitability. Detailed the significant impact of doubling prices while calculating profit margins and reduced volume impact. Stressed the inevitability of inflation and cost pressures, advocating regular price evaluations to maintain or improve business profitability.
- 00:40:00 - 00:45:00
Recognized that customer insights are paramount to resolving business inefficiencies. Discussed various scenarios where engaging directly with customers could yield valuable feedback for product development or sales strategy refinement. Encouraged entrepreneurs to remain customer-focused, using feedback loops to continually adapt and enhance their offerings and business practices.
- 00:45:00 - 00:50:00
Outlined effective sales frameworks by detailing steps in the CLOSER acronym to guide phone sales processes. Highlighted the importance of clear communication, exploring customer pain points, and ultimately reinforcing the decision post-purchase. Reinforcement in the first 24 hours post-sales enhances customer loyalty and satisfaction, validating the sales framework's value.
- 00:50:00 - 00:55:00
Advocated doing more of what is already working instead of venturing into new, uncharted territories. Emphasized leveraging successful strategies and addressing identified business constraints for maximizing impact. Recognized the inclination to seek new methods due to perceived excitement, whereas existing methods often provide more reliable avenues for growth and scalability.
- 00:55:00 - 01:00:00
Stress acknowledged as an inherent aspect of business; growth, stagnation, and decline all bring unique stressors. Promoted acceptance of stress as a natural business condition and focusing on adaptability and problem-solving rather than searching for a stress-free business myth. Rejection of stress as a negative trait will foster resilience and perseverance.
- 01:00:00 - 01:05:00
Introduced the 'lookback window' concept for billing cycles, recommending less frequent billing to longest customer retention. Explained how infrequent billing offers customers a longer view of value over time, minimizing churn. Repositioned annual billing as a cash flow benefit for businesses, especially if combined with upfront payment incentives, improving financial management.
- 01:05:00 - 01:10:00
Explored the idea of 'selling sawdust' by utilizing existing business assets, resources, or spaces more creatively. Presented examples like making use of downtime or unused facilities to generate additional revenue streams without extra operational cost. Illustrated leveraging current capabilities for growth by tapping into underutilized potential within the business.
- 01:10:00 - 01:19:42
Urged businesses to strengthen their sales teams by providing compelling content that addresses buyer concerns, which can be used pre or post-call. Considered unifying sales and marketing for seamless customer acquisition, highlighting the importance of aligned efforts and reducing internal conflict. Efficient departments work in harmony rather than pursuing isolated goals.
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Video Q&A
How can I effectively use the anchoring tactic in pricing?
Include an extremely expensive item in your offerings that you don't plan to sell to make other items seem more reasonably priced, encouraging customers to buy them.
Why is advertising considered the most crucial aspect of starting a business?
Until you reach $100,000 a month, advertising is vital for getting enough customer feedback and knowing if your product is good or not.
Why should businesses start offering their products or services for free?
Offering services or products for free initially can help gain testimonials, referrals, and eventual paying customers, as it builds proof and good will.
What's the importance of having a single channel and avatar initially?
Focusing on one channel and one customer type allows for refinement and improvement of the product or service without spreading resources too thin.
When is the best time to collect testimonials from customers?
Collect testimonials at the moment of greatest customer satisfaction.
How does raising prices affect business profitability?
Raising prices can increase revenue and profitability despite receiving more 'no's, as it raises the standard sale value.
What can businesses do to optimize customer retention through billing strategies?
Extend billing cycles to reduce churn, allow more time to demonstrate value, and consider offering prepaid options to improve cash flow.
How should sawdust opportunities be identified in a business context?
Look for existing resources or processes that can be repurposed or leveraged to create additional revenue streams without heavy operational changes.
What's a crucial point in managing stress associated with business growth, stagnation, or decline?
Stress is inherent in all phases of business, and recognizing it as a natural part of the process can help manage it effectively.
What are the three essential roles within a company for optimal business functioning?
A business needs leaders for acquisition (getting customers), delivery (providing value), and operations (maintaining internal processes).
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- 00:00:00I've been in business 13 years I've sold
- 00:00:01nine companies my last company I sold
- 00:00:03for $ 46.2 million my current portfolio
- 00:00:06at acis.com just over $17 million a
- 00:00:08month and I'm going to compress 13 years
- 00:00:10of business advice into this one video
- 00:00:12number one have something extremely
- 00:00:15expensive to sell that you never even
- 00:00:17plan on selling I learned about this
- 00:00:20anchoring tactic from a friend of mine
- 00:00:23and he said listen man you can just put
- 00:00:25something on your menu of items or
- 00:00:27services that you sell that's 10 or 100
- 00:00:30times more expensive and just by having
- 00:00:32it there it'll anchor everything else on
- 00:00:35your menu or the rest of the prices that
- 00:00:36you have and just make it something that
- 00:00:39if someone actually bought it you'd be
- 00:00:41stoked that they did but what ends up
- 00:00:43happening is that one you'll sell more
- 00:00:46people on your core offer because they
- 00:00:48have this big price anchor second it
- 00:00:50allows you to nudge up your main offer's
- 00:00:53price because related to the big one it
- 00:00:55looks like almost nothing I was talking
- 00:00:57to a different friend of mine and I said
- 00:00:58hey you know you should consider just
- 00:01:00adding one of these things in and he had
- 00:01:01a weight loss business a very generic
- 00:01:03online weight loss business and so he
- 00:01:05added uh a six times higher price
- 00:01:08version of his offer and then the
- 00:01:11craziest thing happened people started
- 00:01:13buying that more than his core offer and
- 00:01:16when he did that he tripled his profit
- 00:01:19overnight and so the thing is is that it
- 00:01:22also breaks you especially if you're
- 00:01:24starting in business out of this fear of
- 00:01:26raising prices by just saying hey
- 00:01:28there's no there's no way anyone's going
- 00:01:30to buy this I'm going to make this so
- 00:01:31expensive no one's going to buy it and
- 00:01:33that's okay so you give yourself
- 00:01:35permission to just fly it out there but
- 00:01:37what you will find is that 10% of
- 00:01:39customers just want to buy the most
- 00:01:41expensive thing these are the whales and
- 00:01:43the only thing worse than making a
- 00:01:44$1,000 offer to somebody with a $100
- 00:01:46budget is making a $100 offer to someone
- 00:01:50with a $1,000 budget because in the
- 00:01:51first scenario you lose a 100 bucks in
- 00:01:53the second scenario you lose $900 of the
- 00:01:56money that you should have made but
- 00:01:57didn't number two no one knows knows you
- 00:02:00exist advertise more and so to give you
- 00:02:03context on this when I walk through the
- 00:02:06streets I usually get stopped four or
- 00:02:08five times on like a 60-minute walk and
- 00:02:11when I was launching my book last year I
- 00:02:14had you know 500,000 plus people who
- 00:02:16were registered it was this massive
- 00:02:17event broke the internet whatever but
- 00:02:20during the month leading up to it we're
- 00:02:22advertising on all channels we're
- 00:02:23running ads we've got Affiliates that
- 00:02:25are pumping it I'm making content all
- 00:02:26over the place and over the 4 weeks of
- 00:02:30people that stopped me only one person
- 00:02:33knew that I had a book coming out and so
- 00:02:36every time I'd see somebody like hey you
- 00:02:37going to be at the book launch and
- 00:02:38they're like oh you have a book and I
- 00:02:40was like how can you not know that I
- 00:02:42have a book there's a story from Henry
- 00:02:43Ford that I love which is that he was
- 00:02:46walking by his the CMO of Ford was right
- 00:02:48next to his office and every day he'd
- 00:02:50walk by and he'd see the marketing
- 00:02:52campaign he he'd see the marketing
- 00:02:53campaign a day after day after day and
- 00:02:54so 3 months into seeing the same
- 00:02:56campaign he knocked on a CMOS door and
- 00:02:58he's like hey when are we going to stop
- 00:02:59running this thing he's like I'm getting
- 00:03:01exhausted to seeing it and the guy just
- 00:03:02looked at me he's like we haven't
- 00:03:04started running it yet and so the thing
- 00:03:06is is that we get so sick of our
- 00:03:07advertising so much before our customers
- 00:03:10or potential customers even remember our
- 00:03:12names and so the extent of advertising
- 00:03:15that you have to do there are so many
- 00:03:17people in the world and people's
- 00:03:19attention is so spread thin and so
- 00:03:21they're so distracted that in the off
- 00:03:23chance you actually do get an
- 00:03:25advertisement of some sort in front of
- 00:03:26them the likel that they remember that
- 00:03:28it was even you and the core message of
- 00:03:30that advertising is even lower and so
- 00:03:32many of us have this big fear that we're
- 00:03:35harassing our Audience by repeating
- 00:03:37ourselves over and over and over again
- 00:03:39but the vast majority of the time no one
- 00:03:41even a knows you exist or B specifically
- 00:03:43knows the message that you're trying to
- 00:03:44let them know and so I like to tell my
- 00:03:47team and remind myself that we need to
- 00:03:49be reminded more than we need to be
- 00:03:50taught and so your audience needs to be
- 00:03:52reminded more than they need to be
- 00:03:53taught and I don't know about you but I
- 00:03:54followed plenty of accounts where like
- 00:03:56they have the same four or five messages
- 00:03:58more or less that they put out there and
- 00:03:59the reason I follow them is because I
- 00:04:00like the reminder I like to be reminded
- 00:04:02to be patient I like to be reminded to
- 00:04:04to to not think take things too
- 00:04:05seriously I like to be reminded that I
- 00:04:07have to think long like those are the
- 00:04:08things that I like to be reminded of and
- 00:04:10so imagine if that accounts like I
- 00:04:11already said be patient once I don't
- 00:04:12want to say it again they've already
- 00:04:14heard that from me it's like no people
- 00:04:16have messages that they want to continue
- 00:04:17to get fed into and every time you feed
- 00:04:19that same message that they likeed
- 00:04:21before back into them they'll have
- 00:04:22another positive experience with you the
- 00:04:24amount of novelty that's required in
- 00:04:26content is significantly less than you
- 00:04:28think as a creator think about it like
- 00:04:30you're going after a girl and she's with
- 00:04:33somebody right now all right so you're
- 00:04:35like okay well I'm going to ease off but
- 00:04:36I'm just going to just let let them know
- 00:04:38I'm just going to throw these little
- 00:04:39flares out there that I'm that I'm I'm
- 00:04:40interested I'm here I'm not being
- 00:04:42disrespectful but I'm I'm available
- 00:04:43right and then what happens is as soon
- 00:04:45as uh she gets out of that relationship
- 00:04:47or whatever then she's receptive to your
- 00:04:50message and so the thing is same way
- 00:04:51works with customers is that they might
- 00:04:53not be looking for a marketing solution
- 00:04:54they may not be looking for a plumbing
- 00:04:56solution they might not be looking for
- 00:04:58an IT services provider for 3 months 6
- 00:05:01months 9 months but they might like to
- 00:05:03hear your stuff but the moment they are
- 00:05:05in the market you're the first one they
- 00:05:07think of because you continued to repeat
- 00:05:09the messages that resonated with them to
- 00:05:11begin with the big thing is the 4x4 all
- 00:05:14right which is especially when you're
- 00:05:16starting out four hours a day doing the
- 00:05:19core four and so the core four means
- 00:05:20you're reaching out to people you know
- 00:05:21oneon-one reaching out to strangers
- 00:05:23one-onone making content one to many or
- 00:05:26running ads one to many and so there's
- 00:05:28the four ways the only things one person
- 00:05:30can do to let other people know about
- 00:05:31their stuff and so I use the rule of 100
- 00:05:34as my my guide there which means you
- 00:05:35either make a 100 minutes of content you
- 00:05:38do a 100 outreaches so either cold or
- 00:05:39warm or or and if you want to get really
- 00:05:43spicy or at least $100 a day of
- 00:05:45advertising now obviously the $100 a day
- 00:05:47you can scale as much as you want but as
- 00:05:48a baseline for anybody who's starting a
- 00:05:50business those are three ways that you
- 00:05:52can just say okay what do I have to do
- 00:05:54to let more people know about my stuff
- 00:05:56if you're not making 100 minutes of
- 00:05:57content you're not doing 100 outreaches
- 00:05:59a day day or you're not spending $100 a
- 00:06:00day on ads no one's going to know you
- 00:06:02exist and that is the biggest threat to
- 00:06:04your business the reason it's so
- 00:06:05important as a Founder to do this in the
- 00:06:07business is that you have to be able to
- 00:06:09make it rain and so every business at
- 00:06:12the most basic level has to advertise
- 00:06:15before it can have money right so like
- 00:06:18if you want to make money people cannot
- 00:06:19give you money until they know you exist
- 00:06:22and so is a is a pre-requisite for
- 00:06:24making money in business is that you
- 00:06:26advertise first and then you have a
- 00:06:27product that you can deliver on and
- 00:06:29that's the most basic form that you have
- 00:06:30to have if you just have the product and
- 00:06:32no one finds out you will continue to
- 00:06:33not make money which leads me to number
- 00:06:35three until you're at $100,000 a month
- 00:06:38advertising is all of your focus and the
- 00:06:41main reason for that is if you don't
- 00:06:43have enough people coming in you're not
- 00:06:44going to have enough iterations of the
- 00:06:46product to get feedback to know if your
- 00:06:47stuff's good or not and what you need to
- 00:06:49do to make it better now the thing is is
- 00:06:50that up to $100,000 a month at that
- 00:06:53point it's all advertising but at some
- 00:06:55point in order to continue to scale you
- 00:06:57need to fix the product you need to make
- 00:06:58sure that people are refg you need
- 00:07:00people make sure people are happy that
- 00:07:01they're referring other people that
- 00:07:03they're staying month after month or
- 00:07:04they're repurchasing month after month
- 00:07:05after month and so if you're not solving
- 00:07:07that then you've got a leaky bucket and
- 00:07:09that's going to be a problem that you're
- 00:07:10going to deal with later and so the
- 00:07:11smart move is to fix that stuff now so
- 00:07:14that you can grow a really big business
- 00:07:15and this is one of the biggest mistakes
- 00:07:17that I made so many times in my early
- 00:07:18career is that you start advertising you
- 00:07:20start understanding a sell and acquire
- 00:07:22customers and you say oh that worked
- 00:07:24I'll do more of it and you should do
- 00:07:25more of it but within this current
- 00:07:27context of you have to make sure that
- 00:07:30you're delivering and so my
- 00:07:31recommendation is get to a million doll
- 00:07:33so get to $100,000 a month is then put
- 00:07:35all of your focus on filling all the
- 00:07:37holes in the bucket so that and the
- 00:07:39thing is is when you do that you're
- 00:07:40actually going to keep growing because
- 00:07:41if you keep the same activities and then
- 00:07:42you fix the holes you're still going to
- 00:07:44keep growing steadily month after month
- 00:07:46after month even with the same level of
- 00:07:47advertising effort then once you fix the
- 00:07:50holes then you go back to the front end
- 00:07:52and say how do I 10x this and that is
- 00:07:54how you can stair step even though your
- 00:07:56actual Revenue growth will still look
- 00:07:57flat because when you fix the holes
- 00:07:59you'll make more money but the doing
- 00:08:01this of the business will shift now if
- 00:08:03you do the alternative of that which is
- 00:08:05you just advertise more and more and
- 00:08:06more there's going to get to a point
- 00:08:08it's an ASM toote so basically you start
- 00:08:09growing and you start plateauing like
- 00:08:11this because then your infrastructure is
- 00:08:13too big and there's too many moving
- 00:08:15pieces to fix the thing that you should
- 00:08:16have fixed earlier but then you're in a
- 00:08:18rock and a hard play scenario because
- 00:08:19then you can't B dial back the
- 00:08:21advertising because you got all these
- 00:08:22people that you've hired but the more
- 00:08:24you sell the more your reputation goes
- 00:08:26in the tank because the stuff's not good
- 00:08:27and so you get a really hard scenario
- 00:08:29and so fixing it first fixing it early
- 00:08:32sets you up to build a much bigger
- 00:08:34business later number four under a
- 00:08:36million dollars a year it's one channel
- 00:08:39one Avatar one product I see way too
- 00:08:41many small business owners saying hey
- 00:08:43I've got two businesses or I have seven
- 00:08:45products or have two different avatars
- 00:08:46or blah blah blah blah right no focus on
- 00:08:48one specific type of customer and if you
- 00:08:50s if you just say yes to everyone with
- 00:08:52money you basically saying no to your
- 00:08:54business because you're never going to
- 00:08:54be able to focus and make something
- 00:08:55really good you can't serve six
- 00:08:56customers and then make a good product
- 00:08:58only doing $100,000 a month it just
- 00:08:59doesn't like it's it's too small volume
- 00:09:01like you don't get enough reps and so
- 00:09:03you need to do one very specific thing
- 00:09:05which means you have to say no to people
- 00:09:06who aren't that that type of person you
- 00:09:07serve one problem which means you have
- 00:09:09one product for that specific Avatar and
- 00:09:11you get better and better at templatized
- 00:09:13at at productizing the service or
- 00:09:15product whatever the product is itself
- 00:09:17making iterations on it and you
- 00:09:18advertise through one channel meaning
- 00:09:20you just know how to make cold email
- 00:09:21convert or you just know how to make
- 00:09:22cold calls convert or you just know how
- 00:09:24to make uh Tik Tok ads convert or you
- 00:09:26just know how to make YouTube videos
- 00:09:28that convert whatever your channel is
- 00:09:29you just stick with that channel because
- 00:09:31as soon as you're like oh I'm going to
- 00:09:32do two different things like that's not
- 00:09:33the objective of this stage you just
- 00:09:35need to get it reliable so that that you
- 00:09:37can then keep tweaking the product so
- 00:09:39that then you can 10x the existing
- 00:09:41Channel you're on once you get to about
- 00:09:43a million a month is when I recommend
- 00:09:45starting to to think about second and
- 00:09:47tertiary channels of getting customers
- 00:09:48and part of the reason I recommend that
- 00:09:49is that when you start a second channel
- 00:09:51it's going to cost you money and it's
- 00:09:53going to cost you time and so the reason
- 00:09:55that you keep that one channel and keep
- 00:09:57doing it longer than you think is
- 00:09:58because you need to be able to get it
- 00:10:00working at the same level or higher with
- 00:10:02not you doing it so that you can have
- 00:10:04the secondary Channel if you're the one
- 00:10:06who's gassing this first channel and
- 00:10:08then you move to the second well now you
- 00:10:10have this second one that's not going to
- 00:10:12be working out nearly as efficiently as
- 00:10:13the first one especially in the
- 00:10:14beginning the first 3 months 6 months
- 00:10:16it's not going to be cranking like the
- 00:10:18first one is but the first one's also
- 00:10:20going to go down because you're not
- 00:10:21there and so you spend the extra time
- 00:10:23there you put the right people in place
- 00:10:25you make sure the training is such that
- 00:10:28they actually can meet or exceed what
- 00:10:30you were doing on your own and then when
- 00:10:32you start the second Channel you can
- 00:10:33pour resources into it because you still
- 00:10:35have cash flow from your main thing and
- 00:10:37that little switch is where most people
- 00:10:38get lost and they just Crush their
- 00:10:40businesses so don't do that so to give
- 00:10:42you guys some context I didn't open up a
- 00:10:44second channel of acquisition until we
- 00:10:46were at 4 million a month now mind you I
- 00:10:48started with paid ads because I was good
- 00:10:50at paid ads and I learned how to run
- 00:10:52paid ads in my local business which then
- 00:10:54when I went National I KN had to do the
- 00:10:56same skill set but after 4 million a
- 00:10:58month I was like okay I need to get this
- 00:11:01second Channel going and so I started
- 00:11:02increasing that channel via cold email
- 00:11:06cold call cold DMS with an outbound team
- 00:11:09but I say that because a lot of people
- 00:11:10are like shouldn't I do this I try to
- 00:11:12delay that as long as I possibly can
- 00:11:14because I know it's going to cost a huge
- 00:11:15amount of time a huge amount of money
- 00:11:17and it might not work for 6 to 12 months
- 00:11:19and to give you context it took me 12
- 00:11:21months for outbound to be responsible
- 00:11:24for half of my Revenue so it's not going
- 00:11:26to happen overnight number five always
- 00:11:29start for free always and I know and I I
- 00:11:32don't usually use explicit 100% black
- 00:11:35and white language but I have yet to see
- 00:11:38a time where starting for free has not
- 00:11:40made me more money so let me explain so
- 00:11:43when I started my Fitness business way
- 00:11:45back when I started with free I wanted
- 00:11:48to get people results and I said I don't
- 00:11:50have any experience so please let me
- 00:11:52just train you for free and because of
- 00:11:54that I have lower Stakes because they
- 00:11:56didn't pay me money they're still paying
- 00:11:57in other ways they're still paying time
- 00:11:59time they're paying inconvenience all
- 00:12:00the other things that a customer has to
- 00:12:01do those costs are still there by the
- 00:12:03way those hidden costs are the things
- 00:12:05that you want to decrease as much as you
- 00:12:06can in your product so that you can
- 00:12:08charge more money because you'll find
- 00:12:10over time that the most expensive thing
- 00:12:12about your product often isn't the price
- 00:12:15it's everything else you require a
- 00:12:16customer to do as a result of the
- 00:12:18purchase which is what things do they
- 00:12:19have to give up that they like doing as
- 00:12:21a result of the purchase and what is
- 00:12:23what are the things that they have to
- 00:12:23start doing that they hate doing as a
- 00:12:25result of the purchase and this happens
- 00:12:27with everything and when I say like and
- 00:12:28hate I use those as extremes but
- 00:12:30fundamentally there's some sort of
- 00:12:31friction there's some sort of
- 00:12:32inconvenience like when I buy a car I
- 00:12:34have to now get gas that is now an
- 00:12:35inconvenience in my life now compared to
- 00:12:37all the other cars maybe all cars that
- 00:12:39have that inconvenience until they have
- 00:12:41an electric car and all of a sudden that
- 00:12:42inconvenience has been removed because I
- 00:12:44can plug the car in at night so I'm a
- 00:12:45co-owner of school.com and I talk to
- 00:12:49beginner entrepreneurs a lot and so I
- 00:12:53see this happening more often than not
- 00:12:55which is that they say hey no one wants
- 00:12:57to buy my thing and I say okay well
- 00:12:59where's your where are your testimonials
- 00:13:01where are the people that you've used
- 00:13:03before this that you've helped get the
- 00:13:04result and they're like well I don't
- 00:13:05have any I'm like well why would I
- 00:13:07believe you they're like well I have
- 00:13:08this amazing offer and I'm going to talk
- 00:13:10about this in number six at length but
- 00:13:14if you don't start for free why should
- 00:13:16anyone believe you and if you are doing
- 00:13:18this for the first time why would you
- 00:13:20want to take money for something that
- 00:13:21you don't even know if it's good yet and
- 00:13:23so this can both give you the conviction
- 00:13:25and give you the confidence to get going
- 00:13:26because you actually have some results
- 00:13:28that you can go off of you can use those
- 00:13:30results to Market to get more customers
- 00:13:31I do this at every level of business and
- 00:13:34so everything that I do I always start
- 00:13:36with free no matter what it is and
- 00:13:39whether it's a new product line in a
- 00:13:40massive company one of our portfolio
- 00:13:42companies we built out a software
- 00:13:43product uh for the existing service base
- 00:13:45and so we said hey we can now have a DIY
- 00:13:48version of our services that you can use
- 00:13:50with this software product and what did
- 00:13:52we do we started for free we took our
- 00:13:54top 100 customers and said hey why don't
- 00:13:56you try it out let us know get us
- 00:13:57feedback and they just kept giving us
- 00:13:58feedback back and honestly in the
- 00:14:00beginning the fact that some people want
- 00:14:01to charge for this is insane it's like
- 00:14:03they're giving me so much valuable stuff
- 00:14:05I'm just happy that they use it right
- 00:14:08and so you go with free and then you go
- 00:14:10with a small small amount of money and
- 00:14:12then you keep raising your prices over
- 00:14:14time which I'll get to in a second and
- 00:14:15for those of you who are worried about
- 00:14:16your pocketbook like I'm Froning all
- 00:14:18these costs well yeah that's why it's
- 00:14:19called investing in a business but
- 00:14:22people who you work with for free can
- 00:14:24make you money in three ways number one
- 00:14:25is they can leave you a testimonial
- 00:14:27number two is they can refer you other
- 00:14:28customers via Word of Mouth that you did
- 00:14:30a good job and number three they can
- 00:14:32actually stay on and pay after a certain
- 00:14:35period of time when you do make it not
- 00:14:36free and you make it uh for money
- 00:14:39because if you want to keep surfacing
- 00:14:41and this is ideally how it works out is
- 00:14:43that you do such a good job that they're
- 00:14:44like I don't want this to stop and then
- 00:14:46you say great now you can do it in
- 00:14:47exchange for money because I can't do
- 00:14:49this anymore in exchange for nothing
- 00:14:51because I have enough demand because
- 00:14:53I've done a good job that I have these
- 00:14:54referrals and I have this proof that
- 00:14:56people do want to pay me for my services
- 00:14:57so if You' like that too you can get get
- 00:14:59the same price they have number six and
- 00:15:00this is a big one proof over promise so
- 00:15:05what a lot of beginners do and they read
- 00:15:06you know $100 million offers and they're
- 00:15:08like I have a grand slame offer and so
- 00:15:09because of that I've got this big thing
- 00:15:12with all these bonuses and the stack and
- 00:15:13these guarantees and I've got a premium
- 00:15:15price and yet no one's buying it so what
- 00:15:17I want to do is walk you through a
- 00:15:19hypothetical let's say on one extreme
- 00:15:21we've got somebody who has an amazing
- 00:15:23crazy awesome offer for whatever they
- 00:15:25promise you the world and Beyond on this
- 00:15:29stream same core product or core Service
- 00:15:32as the first guy except he has no crazy
- 00:15:35offer he just has 1,000
- 00:15:37testimonials who is going to get the
- 00:15:40most customers this guy and so your
- 00:15:43proof is going to do more selling than
- 00:15:46any promise can possibly do because the
- 00:15:48promises all function as an
- 00:15:50approximation of the likelihood that
- 00:15:52they're going to get a result and proof
- 00:15:54is always going to be more compelling
- 00:15:56and so when you're starting out you want
- 00:15:58to capture as much proof as humanely
- 00:16:01possible now I have a huge amount of
- 00:16:02stuff on proof because I I'm obsessed
- 00:16:04with it but I'll give you four very good
- 00:16:07things that you can do to make your
- 00:16:08proof more compelling number one recent
- 00:16:11proof is better than delayed proof so if
- 00:16:14proof was 5 years old proof that's from
- 00:16:16last week is going to be more compelling
- 00:16:18second is you want it to be as visual as
- 00:16:20possible so just a bunch of words on a
- 00:16:22screen is less compelling than a
- 00:16:24screenshot of someone's bank account
- 00:16:25after they made money or someone saying
- 00:16:28hey I lost 20 pound is not as compelling
- 00:16:30as the picture of them losing 20 lbs
- 00:16:32which is also less compelling than a
- 00:16:34video of them weighing in and then a
- 00:16:36video of them weighing out the third
- 00:16:38component for proof that I'll give you
- 00:16:39is you want high volume and the nice
- 00:16:41thing is that most businesses actually
- 00:16:43have a lot more proof than they know
- 00:16:44they do they just never capture it and
- 00:16:46so one of the things that I did in our
- 00:16:48brick and mortar chains that we had with
- 00:16:49all of the the gyms I do across all our
- 00:16:51brick and mortars is if you look at Yelp
- 00:16:53you look at Google you look at Facebook
- 00:16:55all of these have reviews for your
- 00:16:57business and so for me and if you're
- 00:16:59digital then you have Facebook reviews
- 00:17:01on your Facebook page and things like
- 00:17:02that and so I would go into the Stars
- 00:17:05you click into it and there's like a
- 00:17:06hundred of them and then you just
- 00:17:07screenshot each one of them so if you
- 00:17:10have hundred five star reviews on Yelp
- 00:17:12that's like a mediocre Yelp account
- 00:17:14right but if I screenshot a hundred of
- 00:17:16those and then I frame them and I put
- 00:17:18them on my Lobby wall from floor to
- 00:17:19ceiling it's overwhelming the amount of
- 00:17:21proof that is and so most businesses
- 00:17:23have way more proof than they think they
- 00:17:25do they just don't leverage it and so
- 00:17:27one of the easiest things you can do
- 00:17:29take the screenshots of all all review
- 00:17:31sites across all platforms show them
- 00:17:33individually and show them as your new
- 00:17:35wallpaper and the fourth element of
- 00:17:37proof is that you want to capture pain
- 00:17:39and so let me explain by this so I've
- 00:17:41been able to look at a zillion ads
- 00:17:43across all companies where they have
- 00:17:44testimonial ads from customers or user
- 00:17:46generated content to be fancy right the
- 00:17:49thing is is the content that begins with
- 00:17:52pain converts significantly higher and
- 00:17:55so this is my theory around this which
- 00:17:57is that the pain relates to the customer
- 00:18:00or Prospect where they're currently at
- 00:18:02if they start with the promise it's too
- 00:18:04far disconnected but if you start with
- 00:18:07pain they relate to the person and then
- 00:18:09you can take them through the story of
- 00:18:10them getting the result but if you start
- 00:18:12with the end result it's too disjoint
- 00:18:14it's too far away it becomes less
- 00:18:15believable so if you had to pick between
- 00:18:18proof or promise double down on proof
- 00:18:20and that's also the reason that I tell
- 00:18:22everyone to start with giving stuff away
- 00:18:23for free because it's the easiest and
- 00:18:25fastest way to get tons of it best time
- 00:18:27to ask someone for a testimonial at the
- 00:18:29moment of greatest satisfaction all
- 00:18:30right so that's also by the way
- 00:18:32different from the best time to sell all
- 00:18:34right because you want to sell at the
- 00:18:36moment of greatest pain you want to get
- 00:18:37a testimoni at the moment of greatest
- 00:18:39satisfaction so think about this way if
- 00:18:41I were to say hey uh you have a steak
- 00:18:43dinner and you have a steak and you're
- 00:18:45starving you're like oh this is great
- 00:18:46blah blah blah blah the moment to sell
- 00:18:47you the steak is right before you've had
- 00:18:49the steak and then you eat the steak now
- 00:18:51after you have the steak is that the
- 00:18:52moment that I say would you like another
- 00:18:53steak not really because you're like I'm
- 00:18:55full I'm good so that's the point of
- 00:18:57greatest satisfaction not the point of
- 00:18:58greatest deprivation now after I've had
- 00:19:00the steak if I say hey would you mind
- 00:19:02like looking in the camera and saying
- 00:19:03how great the Stak was people like oh my
- 00:19:05God it was amazing it was so great you
- 00:19:06guys should definitely check this place
- 00:19:07out it's awesome right and so point of
- 00:19:10greatest deprivation is when you make
- 00:19:11your sale point of greatest satisfaction
- 00:19:13is when you collect your proof number
- 00:19:15seven raising prices almost always makes
- 00:19:18you more money but you hear no more
- 00:19:20often and so let me break this down so I
- 00:19:22had a a sales guy in one of our
- 00:19:24portfolio companies and we doubled the
- 00:19:27price of a product so a lot of people
- 00:19:28are like really afraid of like 10% or
- 00:19:3020% increases like I'll test 4X 5x price
- 00:19:34differences pricing in many instances is
- 00:19:37far more inelastic than you think it is
- 00:19:39all right so elastic versus inelastic
- 00:19:41pricing I'm not getting into that but
- 00:19:42basically if you have a $5 sandwich
- 00:19:44going to $10 sandwich there's a lot of
- 00:19:46elasticity with food meaning people are
- 00:19:48very responsive to small increases in
- 00:19:50price the classic counter example is if
- 00:19:52you have life saving medication it's not
- 00:19:55very elastic at all meaning if you
- 00:19:57double the price people still going to
- 00:19:58pay for it because they need to live
- 00:20:00right and so the thing is is that if you
- 00:20:01have a very bable thing the price is
- 00:20:03usually a lot a lot more flexible than
- 00:20:05you think it is in terms of how much you
- 00:20:07can move it up all right and so I like
- 00:20:10making massive price tests but the thing
- 00:20:13that you have to have when you do this
- 00:20:15is the balls or the stomach to deal with
- 00:20:18more nose and so when I walked that
- 00:20:20sales team through the price increase I
- 00:20:23said hey we're going to double the price
- 00:20:25I said you have to understand that we're
- 00:20:27for sure going to get less or fewer
- 00:20:30yeses but the question is will we get
- 00:20:32half the yeses so we had a 35% reduction
- 00:20:37in conversion percentage but we doubled
- 00:20:40the price and so we made more money in
- 00:20:43multiple ways so one we made more
- 00:20:45absolute Revenue we literally just made
- 00:20:47more Topline but the magic of this is
- 00:20:49that let's say the cost of our thing was
- 00:20:51$500 and we sold the thing for $1,000
- 00:20:54okay so we have 50% margins well if we
- 00:20:56double the price we go from making $500
- 00:20:58$ in profit to $1,500 in profit so I
- 00:21:01actually triple the amount of money I
- 00:21:03make by doubling my price and so even if
- 00:21:06I have a 35% reduction or a onethird
- 00:21:08reduction in sales I tripled how much
- 00:21:11money I made on the other 2/3 of my
- 00:21:13sales which means me doubling the price
- 00:21:17with a one-third reduction in sales
- 00:21:19still doubled the profit in absolute
- 00:21:21amounts despite selling onethird fewer
- 00:21:23customers and one of the nice benefits
- 00:21:26of having fewer customers is that you
- 00:21:29have fewer costs associated with
- 00:21:30delivering on them so not only is the
- 00:21:33gross margin per customer higher your
- 00:21:36fixed cost that you have to incur to
- 00:21:38continue to expand your infrastructure
- 00:21:40go down and fundamentally a smaller
- 00:21:43amount of customers that make more money
- 00:21:45is an easier business to run than more
- 00:21:47customers that make you less money and
- 00:21:48let me tell you how important this is
- 00:21:50I've seen businesses that have not
- 00:21:51changed their prices for five six seven
- 00:21:53years right because they're afraid to do
- 00:21:54it whatever but I want to give you some
- 00:21:56real hard truth right now
- 00:21:59in 2017 if you sold something for $100
- 00:22:01that was your only product and you were
- 00:22:03running 20% margins as a business if you
- 00:22:06did not change your price from 2017
- 00:22:07until 2024 that $100 now means that your
- 00:22:11costs in that business have gone up by
- 00:22:1320% which means that your profit is now
- 00:22:15zero and so if you feel like your
- 00:22:17margins continue to compress year after
- 00:22:19year after year it's usually because
- 00:22:21you're not appropriately adjusting your
- 00:22:23prices so to give you context
- 00:22:26$79 in 2017 is the equivalent of $100
- 00:22:30today and so that would be like you
- 00:22:32going back in time where you had a 20%
- 00:22:34margin business and running it at a $79
- 00:22:37price point rather than a $100 price
- 00:22:38point and so you just like that
- 00:22:40eliminate all the profit in the business
- 00:22:42and so you have to do the reverse of
- 00:22:43that because inflation is a compounding
- 00:22:46threat to your business that every year
- 00:22:49stacks on top of itself and so if you're
- 00:22:51not making three 6% increases in prices
- 00:22:54at least annually you're not even
- 00:22:56keeping up with inflation and to give
- 00:22:58you a little story around this Warren
- 00:23:00Buffett when he bought C candies said
- 00:23:02that he only wanted to control one thing
- 00:23:04and so what that one thing was is that
- 00:23:06every year he would look at all the
- 00:23:07prices of all the candies and he would
- 00:23:09ship them the new pricing and he has
- 00:23:11raised prices 50 years in a row
- 00:23:15sometimes in a single year as high as
- 00:23:17177% onto their pricing and as a result
- 00:23:19of that he's cleared himself a billion
- 00:23:21dollars in profit and so if it was the
- 00:23:23one thing that he focused so hard on it
- 00:23:26might be something worth thinking about
- 00:23:28so if you do make a pricing change
- 00:23:29there's two components to this one is
- 00:23:31new customers the other is old customers
- 00:23:34the easiest thing to do is just change
- 00:23:35the price and and just apply it to
- 00:23:36everyone who's new that's simple and if
- 00:23:38you're in a transactional business then
- 00:23:39it's fine even because the old customers
- 00:23:42come back and buy again right but if
- 00:23:43someone's on some sort of recurring
- 00:23:45service is a little bit trickier now I
- 00:23:47have some tactics around this but I'll
- 00:23:49just give you the high levels which is
- 00:23:51you want to have a price increase letter
- 00:23:53you want to talk about all the things
- 00:23:54that they're going to get as as a result
- 00:23:55of the investment that you're now making
- 00:23:57into the business and that it's the only
- 00:23:59way that you'll be able to stay in
- 00:24:00business given inflationary pressures
- 00:24:02Etc all right and so you just want to
- 00:24:04say here's the thing here's the stuff
- 00:24:06you're going to get I want to keep my
- 00:24:07promise to you which is to keep our
- 00:24:09thing as good as possible and only way
- 00:24:10for me to ethically keep my promise is
- 00:24:12for us to reflect that in the prices
- 00:24:14which are now having to be changed
- 00:24:15effective this date but don't worry I've
- 00:24:18grandfathered you in to your old price
- 00:24:21by this time and that's key is that the
- 00:24:23old customers you say I've Grand
- 00:24:24everyone wants to be grandfathered you
- 00:24:25say so I'm grandfathering you in until
- 00:24:28this and that way it's not like it's
- 00:24:29changing tomorrow it's delaying the pain
- 00:24:31and giving them a gift right now as a
- 00:24:34way of honoring the fact that they've
- 00:24:36been loyal customers to you those are
- 00:24:37the main bullets of what that price
- 00:24:39letter would go out and say and if you
- 00:24:41are going to raise your prices you want
- 00:24:43to be measured about it you should know
- 00:24:45what your conversion rates are prior to
- 00:24:46you making the price change and you
- 00:24:48should be able to give a statistically
- 00:24:49significant sample size of shots on goal
- 00:24:53with the new price before you make a
- 00:24:56decision if you get on the phone and the
- 00:24:57first two people say no well we one knew
- 00:25:00more people were going to say no we
- 00:25:01already expected that and if you have
- 00:25:03call it 40% close rates right now well
- 00:25:06if you make double the price and you go
- 00:25:08to 30% close rates then that's still a
- 00:25:11great deal for you you might just be
- 00:25:12getting the first two NOS out of the
- 00:25:14seven NOS you already know you're going
- 00:25:16to get when you talk to 10 people and so
- 00:25:17talking to two or three people getting
- 00:25:19NOS doesn't mean you need to change your
- 00:25:20price it might have just been the nose
- 00:25:22you're normally going to get even at
- 00:25:23your lower price and so you can't be
- 00:25:25emotional about this you have to be
- 00:25:26calculated and this in my opinion is the
- 00:25:28the reason most people don't raise their
- 00:25:30prices or can't do it successfully
- 00:25:31number eight talk to customers to solve
- 00:25:34all your problems so Paul Graham said
- 00:25:36this and I think it's really good he
- 00:25:37said you can solve just about every
- 00:25:38business Problem by talking to your
- 00:25:40customers so if your advertising isn't
- 00:25:42converting talk to your customers if
- 00:25:44your pages aren't converting talk to
- 00:25:46your customers if the price seems weird
- 00:25:48talk to your customers If the product
- 00:25:49isn't delivering talk to your customers
- 00:25:51at the end of the day your customers are
- 00:25:53the people you serve and they have all
- 00:25:55the information you need to make your
- 00:25:56product better so especially when you're
- 00:26:00starting out even if you have very low
- 00:26:03prices so let's say you charge $10 a
- 00:26:05month for something all right and it's
- 00:26:06and you want this thing to have
- 00:26:07thousands and thousands of customers
- 00:26:10okay fine but if you don't talk to
- 00:26:14customers you're not going to know
- 00:26:16what's going to drive them to convert
- 00:26:17buy and stay and so I come from an
- 00:26:20industry where people meet face tace in
- 00:26:22person to sell $10 a month memberships
- 00:26:24and so I don't want to hear it all right
- 00:26:26I spent the first four or five years of
- 00:26:28my career selling $30 $50 $100 things
- 00:26:33all day long I don't know a very
- 00:26:35successful advertising entrepreneur
- 00:26:37who's a rain maker meaning they know how
- 00:26:39to get customers who didn't have four or
- 00:26:41five years of Hardcore sales under their
- 00:26:44belt that no one knew who they were
- 00:26:46right that's the rocky cut scene is
- 00:26:47where you take hundreds and thousands of
- 00:26:49calls with customers where you hear the
- 00:26:51words they use so that when you you say
- 00:26:54does this suck but they say it
- 00:26:56differently and so then you say that in
- 00:26:58your advertising and when you take these
- 00:26:59sales gos for $10 a month you're not
- 00:27:01doing it for the $10 a month you're
- 00:27:03doing it so that you can learn more
- 00:27:04about them and you just so happen to get
- 00:27:06paid but you find out the words that get
- 00:27:08them to move because you might think
- 00:27:11these are all the selling points to your
- 00:27:12thing but when you're talking to them
- 00:27:14nothing really happens then you say one
- 00:27:15thing and then boom their eyes light up
- 00:27:17and they're like yeah that and then all
- 00:27:18of a sudden you reorder your sales
- 00:27:20scripts you reorder your headlines you
- 00:27:21re order the the road map on the things
- 00:27:24that you're going to improve in the
- 00:27:25product because these are actually the
- 00:27:26things that are driving purchases
- 00:27:28for the first purchase and getting them
- 00:27:30to stay and so most entrepreneurs are
- 00:27:33afraid to talk to customers I have no
- 00:27:35idea why that is they're afraid to talk
- 00:27:38to random people who are giving them
- 00:27:39money I don't get it but one of the
- 00:27:42easiest ways you can learn more about
- 00:27:44your business to make more money is pick
- 00:27:45up the phone and call people who've
- 00:27:47given you money and ask them why they
- 00:27:48did and just as importantly maybe more
- 00:27:51importantly talk to all the people who
- 00:27:53didn't buy and ask them why they did it
- 00:27:55yeah and if you think you're above this
- 00:27:56you're right you you should just keep
- 00:27:58doing that but for everybody who wants
- 00:28:00to beat that guy just get on the phone
- 00:28:01with your customers so inside of
- 00:28:03school.com we run a contest every month
- 00:28:05where the top 10 people who are new to
- 00:28:07the platform who generate the most
- 00:28:09Revenue in their communities get to fly
- 00:28:11out to Vegas and spend a day with me and
- 00:28:13Sam who's the other owner of school and
- 00:28:15part of the reason we do this is that of
- 00:28:17course it's a great prize for all the
- 00:28:19winners and they get to meet each other
- 00:28:20and it's an awesome event but for us we
- 00:28:22get such valuable user feedback from
- 00:28:25Super users these are the highest most
- 00:28:27invested users users and so we're like
- 00:28:29hey do you like this thing hey this is
- 00:28:31the product room hey would you
- 00:28:32prioritize this over this so recently we
- 00:28:34used the feedback from this group we
- 00:28:36said hey we have this thing that could
- 00:28:37be controversial with the rest of the
- 00:28:39community because we could see people
- 00:28:41taking it like this if we made this
- 00:28:42change in the product what would you
- 00:28:44guys think and unanimously they're like
- 00:28:46oh no that would make us more money
- 00:28:47we're totally in for it and so we're
- 00:28:49like wow and so months of deliberation
- 00:28:52of like oh do you think they'll like it
- 00:28:54I don't know if they'll like it what if
- 00:28:55they don't like it all of that got
- 00:28:57solved by just asking them and then we
- 00:28:59got our answer and then we did it and
- 00:29:00everyone was happy and so the beauty of
- 00:29:02this is that you get certainty around
- 00:29:03your decisions and so you can make
- 00:29:05decisions faster and the entrepreneurs
- 00:29:07who make faster decisions move faster
- 00:29:09and when you do talk to customers
- 00:29:11whether it's in person like this school
- 00:29:13event that I was talking about or just
- 00:29:14on the phone what do you think happens
- 00:29:16to them you can take someone from a
- 00:29:18neutral customer to a Super Fan in one
- 00:29:20call you can tell the story of the
- 00:29:22business you can tell them why they
- 00:29:23started you show that you care and guess
- 00:29:25what that person might bring you 10 or
- 00:29:2750 more people people when you think two
- 00:29:29rows down the line of Word of Mouth
- 00:29:31referrals and of course they're probably
- 00:29:32going to stay way longer than they would
- 00:29:33otherwise because if they do have an
- 00:29:35issue guess what they're going to do
- 00:29:36instead of cancelling they're going to
- 00:29:37call you and let you know a great time
- 00:29:39to do this that a lot of people don't
- 00:29:40like is that the moment people ask to
- 00:29:43cancel so if you have any kind of
- 00:29:44recurring membership or if they ask for
- 00:29:46a refund if you have onetime
- 00:29:47transactions get on the phone with them
- 00:29:49and it's not necessarily to try and like
- 00:29:51you know hard sell them back into it
- 00:29:52which by all means you can but the more
- 00:29:55valuable thing is to understand what
- 00:29:56went wrong and you'd be surprised how
- 00:29:59many times you just let someone vent and
- 00:30:00here's the key don't minimize what they
- 00:30:03said get more angry about the reason
- 00:30:05they're canceling than they are because
- 00:30:07you're like that's ridiculous that
- 00:30:08should have never happened to you I
- 00:30:09can't believe that was your experience I
- 00:30:11completely understand why you'd want a
- 00:30:12refund I would want to refund 10 times
- 00:30:14over I'm surprised you're not trying to
- 00:30:15put me in jail I get it all right is
- 00:30:17there is there a world that I can make
- 00:30:19this right or what would it take for me
- 00:30:21this is the question what would it take
- 00:30:22for me to make this right and so now you
- 00:30:25get into them solving what it would cost
- 00:30:26or what it would take for them to stay
- 00:30:28and more times than not it's not as big
- 00:30:30as you think you want to talk to all
- 00:30:31sorts of customers so you want to talk
- 00:30:33to the super users you want to talk to
- 00:30:34the moderate users and you want to talk
- 00:30:35to the low users but you're going to get
- 00:30:36different things out of it like I don't
- 00:30:37I'm not going to prioritize a road map
- 00:30:39or things that I'm going to reinvest in
- 00:30:40the business based on people who are not
- 00:30:41that invested in the business I want to
- 00:30:43I want to talk to the super users who
- 00:30:44are getting the most out of it because
- 00:30:45they're going to have more context but
- 00:30:47in terms of what problem do I want to
- 00:30:48solve for these people it's like why
- 00:30:50didn't this work for you so this would
- 00:30:52be stuff that's like friction so this is
- 00:30:54going to be way more about getting new
- 00:30:55customers like I'm going to solve new
- 00:30:56customer Problems by finding out why
- 00:30:57people didn't buy or bought and then
- 00:30:59left and then I'm going to figure out
- 00:31:01how to make my customers more valuable
- 00:31:03and get them to stay longer by talking
- 00:31:04to Super users uh and your super fans or
- 00:31:07the best customers you have about what
- 00:31:09would make this even better number nine
- 00:31:11what to say to prospects on the phone
- 00:31:13when you're just starting to get your
- 00:31:15first sales so I use something called
- 00:31:17The Closer framework I'll make it very
- 00:31:19short but the call should go something
- 00:31:21like this C so closer is an acronym C
- 00:31:24clarify why they're there so what made
- 00:31:26you hop on the call what made you take a
- 00:31:27step what made you respond to my email
- 00:31:29what made you comment on my post
- 00:31:31whatever it is they took an action to
- 00:31:32become an Engaged lead and that is your
- 00:31:34advantage because any person that you
- 00:31:36get on the phone with with the exception
- 00:31:37of a true true cold call first pickup
- 00:31:41with the exception of that everyone has
- 00:31:43responded to an email they've commented
- 00:31:44on a post they've responded to an ad
- 00:31:46they've opted in whatever so you ask
- 00:31:48them why they did that that clarifies it
- 00:31:50gives you also big Authority in the
- 00:31:52frame because they've taken a step
- 00:31:53towards you and you're just receiving so
- 00:31:56you say hey why'd you do that and then
- 00:31:57they'll tell you what it was then you
- 00:31:59move on to L which is like okay so what
- 00:32:01I'm hearing is and this is labeling with
- 00:32:03a problem so it sounds like you want
- 00:32:05this and this is the problem or you're
- 00:32:06you want to have this outcome and you
- 00:32:08haven't gotten it yet is that sound
- 00:32:09about right they're going to say yes and
- 00:32:10you're like okay cool then you go to O
- 00:32:13and you say you're going to overview
- 00:32:14their past experiences you're like okay
- 00:32:16so what have you done so far to try and
- 00:32:18make this happen why is this so
- 00:32:20important to you what else has happened
- 00:32:22in the meantime that has cost you from
- 00:32:24not having this occur right and we call
- 00:32:27this the pain cycle the reason you do
- 00:32:29the pain cycle before you sell something
- 00:32:31is that you want to temporarily increase
- 00:32:33their deprivation around that outcome so
- 00:32:36we want to temporarily in the state of
- 00:32:37the conversation increase how important
- 00:32:40that outcome is for them so you've
- 00:32:41probably heard in in politics whatever
- 00:32:44the topic is of the debate it's like
- 00:32:46it's the economy it's education it's the
- 00:32:49border right whatever media puts more
- 00:32:51attention on is what people say is the
- 00:32:54main reason they vote for candidates
- 00:32:55they basically make that the topic of
- 00:32:58the election which is the macroeconomic
- 00:32:59situation or whatever right when you're
- 00:33:01in a micro event like a sales call you
- 00:33:04have sometimes 10 minutes sometimes an
- 00:33:06hour to basically in that very small
- 00:33:09call Elevate the importance of that
- 00:33:12problem in their life so that you can
- 00:33:14motivate action they were kind of hungry
- 00:33:16when they get on the call but as you
- 00:33:17talk about the food that they could be
- 00:33:19having and the bad food they've been
- 00:33:20eating every single day and how crappy
- 00:33:22it is and how it's not good for them and
- 00:33:24how tasty and delicious this food is
- 00:33:26what are we doing we're increasing their
- 00:33:28deprivation we're making them hungrier
- 00:33:30so that when we make our offer they're
- 00:33:32more likely to take it which then goes
- 00:33:34to S which is you sell the vacation and
- 00:33:36the reason I say sell the vacation not
- 00:33:37the plane flight is most salespeople
- 00:33:40most new entrepreneurs want to focus on
- 00:33:42their features they want to talk about
- 00:33:43the flight they want to talk about TSA
- 00:33:45they want to talk about check-in they
- 00:33:46want to talk about their bags they want
- 00:33:47to talk about their seat all of these
- 00:33:49things that are on the way to Maui their
- 00:33:51destination you want to just talk about
- 00:33:53Maui you want to talk about the lick
- 00:33:55your fingers good what it's going to be
- 00:33:57like when they have a full stomach and
- 00:33:59they're feeling great with their family
- 00:34:00at the restaurant that's what we want to
- 00:34:02talk about we don't want to talk about
- 00:34:03how they're going to order it we don't
- 00:34:05want to talk about the the selection we
- 00:34:07don't to talk about how many times
- 00:34:08they're going to get their drinks
- 00:34:09refilled we don't talk about any of that
- 00:34:10we want to talk about Maui we want to
- 00:34:12talk about being on the beach with the
- 00:34:14wind in their hair with a my tie in hand
- 00:34:16that's what we want to talk about sell
- 00:34:18the vacation typically is a three-point
- 00:34:20pitch which is by the way you can
- 00:34:21separate anything into three points
- 00:34:24right now you just Chunk Up or chunk
- 00:34:25down based on hey what does it take to
- 00:34:27be successful it's like you need Fitness
- 00:34:29Nutrition accountability you need the
- 00:34:30leads to be timely personalized and
- 00:34:33qualified right whatever it is so it
- 00:34:35doesn't matter what you're selling you
- 00:34:36can come up with three points and the
- 00:34:38people have to say yeah if I had all
- 00:34:39three of those things I would succeed
- 00:34:40now at that point someone doesn't say
- 00:34:42yes you move on to E which is explain
- 00:34:44away their concerns which are what of
- 00:34:45the specifics they have that are the
- 00:34:47reasons that they're not buying which is
- 00:34:49usually going to be some sort of
- 00:34:51specifics about the program something
- 00:34:52time related something money related
- 00:34:55something decision maker related meaning
- 00:34:56they have to give the decision-making
- 00:34:58authority to somebody else or finally
- 00:35:00them just simply avoiding the decision
- 00:35:02for fear of making a mistake and so you
- 00:35:04need to account for all five of those
- 00:35:05and know how to overcome each of them
- 00:35:07which I cover in a 4H hour plus video
- 00:35:10that you can watch on my channel
- 00:35:11somewhere else R is reinforce the
- 00:35:13decision so once they have made a
- 00:35:14decision to buy you're not done yet now
- 00:35:16the work begins which is the next 24
- 00:35:18hours is crucial to making sure that
- 00:35:21they feel really wowed and impressed
- 00:35:23with your business most customers will
- 00:35:24judge a business based on the first 24
- 00:35:27hours post purchase and so if you say
- 00:35:29hey I'm going to get you three things
- 00:35:30the next 24 hours you're going to get
- 00:35:32introduced to this person she's going to
- 00:35:33do this and this is what's going to
- 00:35:34happen next then you make those promises
- 00:35:36and you keep those promises within that
- 00:35:38time frame and ideally you do it even
- 00:35:40faster than you promised you want their
- 00:35:41impression to be like man these guys are
- 00:35:43dial The Closer framework is simple that
- 00:35:45simple enough that you can teach it to
- 00:35:46somebody else and when I was starting in
- 00:35:48my gym journey I had sold every single
- 00:35:50membership for a year plus and until I
- 00:35:54had somebody else come in who had never
- 00:35:56sold weight loss and have them follow
- 00:35:58the c l s r framework in the sales pitch
- 00:36:03and then saw them close their first sale
- 00:36:05without me I like I actually cried I was
- 00:36:07like so I was like oh my God I someone
- 00:36:10else can sell this like I this may
- 00:36:11actually be a business and so learning
- 00:36:14to sell in this framework also make
- 00:36:16makes it duplicatable so that you can
- 00:36:17give it to somebody else over time
- 00:36:19number 10 and this is big before you
- 00:36:21even think about doing something new do
- 00:36:2410 times more of what's already working
- 00:36:26and so this is like one of the things as
- 00:36:28soon as I buy a portfolio company what
- 00:36:30I'll do is I go to the head of marketing
- 00:36:33I go to the founder and I say hey why
- 00:36:34can't we 10x what we're currently doing
- 00:36:36tell me why we can't honestly two times
- 00:36:39out of three they're like I mean we
- 00:36:40could and I'm like then why aren't we
- 00:36:41doing that and what happens is they have
- 00:36:43all these other priorities that are not
- 00:36:45going to 10x the business and they have
- 00:36:47this one thing that we already know
- 00:36:49works that that we have nothing that's
- 00:36:51stopping us from 10 Xing the business
- 00:36:53and I say great let's do that call me in
- 00:36:556 months now the thing is is in one out
- 00:36:57of three times to say well we can't 10x
- 00:37:00this because of this thing then I say
- 00:37:02guess what the constraint of this
- 00:37:03business is solving that and if you're
- 00:37:06doing anything but solving that then
- 00:37:09you're not growing the business right as
- 00:37:11a Founder rather you're not growing it
- 00:37:12as fast as you could be growing it you
- 00:37:14doing outbound it's like great why can't
- 00:37:16we do 10 times the outbound well I don't
- 00:37:18have enough leads from from lists okay
- 00:37:20great so our constraint of 10x in this
- 00:37:21business is that we need to find more
- 00:37:23sources for list so we need to either
- 00:37:25scrape more lists we need to buy more
- 00:37:26lists or make more lists ourselves eles
- 00:37:28okay that's solvable let's do that if
- 00:37:31it's hey uh if we 10x are advertising
- 00:37:34dollars like we just need to add more to
- 00:37:36the budget oh we can't do that because
- 00:37:38our ads aren't good enough okay great so
- 00:37:40we need to have more creative that's the
- 00:37:42constraint of the business if it's
- 00:37:45content which is why can't we make 10x
- 00:37:47content or make our content 10 times
- 00:37:48better or maybe realistically a
- 00:37:51combination of the two which is we're
- 00:37:52going to put out two times the content
- 00:37:54and we're also going to try to make it
- 00:37:55two to three times better great then
- 00:37:57guess what now we have a Sixx can we
- 00:37:59triple the content and make it three
- 00:38:00times better sure well what did we do in
- 00:38:02the best content that we had that we're
- 00:38:04not doing in all the other pieces great
- 00:38:06can we tempti that and make that the
- 00:38:08Playbook that we use with every piece of
- 00:38:10content great we're not doing that cool
- 00:38:12let's do that before we do any of these
- 00:38:14other ideas that you had and so a lot of
- 00:38:17entrepreneurs because it's boring to
- 00:38:19them they figured out how to do this one
- 00:38:21thing and they think oh I should figure
- 00:38:23out how to do something else when once
- 00:38:24you get something to work the whole goal
- 00:38:27is to beat the living hell out of it is
- 00:38:29to squeeze every last drop from that
- 00:38:32thing that works and you do as much as
- 00:38:34you possibly can as well as you possibly
- 00:38:36can before even thinking about doing
- 00:38:38something new so let me walk you through
- 00:38:40the five stages of the traditional
- 00:38:42entrepreneur for advertising or even for
- 00:38:44business they have something that they
- 00:38:46hear about that they think is cool so
- 00:38:49they go into uninformed optimism they're
- 00:38:51really optimistic but they have no idea
- 00:38:53then they jump into this new thing and
- 00:38:55they become an inform form Med pessimist
- 00:38:59and so they find out way more about this
- 00:39:01thing and then they're like wow this is
- 00:39:03actually kind of hard and then they go
- 00:39:05to stage three which is the value of
- 00:39:07Despair where they're like wow this
- 00:39:08isn't working this isn't what I thought
- 00:39:10it was going to be and then what they do
- 00:39:12is dot dot dot they start over at
- 00:39:14uninformed optimism because they hear
- 00:39:16something else is easier but they miss
- 00:39:18out on step four and five which is they
- 00:39:20become an informed optimist so they say
- 00:39:22okay I understand how outbound works I
- 00:39:24understand how PID ads work I understand
- 00:39:26how organic works and what are the
- 00:39:27things that it takes to scale and how
- 00:39:28much work it really is and then finally
- 00:39:30get to level five which is achievement
- 00:39:32which is they actually achieve the goal
- 00:39:33but most people just repeat 1 2 3 one 2
- 00:39:363 uninformed optimism informed pessimism
- 00:39:38value of Despair start back over and
- 00:39:40they just hit all three of those over
- 00:39:41and over and over again whether that's
- 00:39:43new marketing channels new products new
- 00:39:45businesses and this is a version of the
- 00:39:47woman in the red dress is that it's
- 00:39:49always deceptive to think that the new
- 00:39:51thing is going to be easier and the only
- 00:39:53reason you think it's easier is cuz you
- 00:39:54don't know enough I wish I could just
- 00:39:56give you the scar issue of having done
- 00:39:58that three-part triangle over and over
- 00:40:00again but all I can tell you is that
- 00:40:01like when I get that little tickle in
- 00:40:03the back of my neck where I'm like ooh
- 00:40:04this looks exciting it's now become a
- 00:40:06warning flag to me because I've been
- 00:40:07burned so many times doing it to say oh
- 00:40:10I must not know enough about this
- 00:40:12because everything is hard I'll give you
- 00:40:14an an analogy that a mentor gave me that
- 00:40:16I really liked and I think it applies to
- 00:40:18a lot of things but when he was talking
- 00:40:20to me about departments in my business
- 00:40:21he said you have to know where the
- 00:40:22bodies are buried and I was like what do
- 00:40:24you mean by that he said if have you
- 00:40:25ever talked to like a head of a
- 00:40:26department like I or HR legal or
- 00:40:28whatever and they say yep everything's
- 00:40:30good if you don't know what problems are
- 00:40:33actually going on in the department
- 00:40:35you're too far away and so that's in a
- 00:40:38way uninformed optimism they're just
- 00:40:40telling you it's great and you don't
- 00:40:41know any better so you're uninformed but
- 00:40:43you should know enough about the
- 00:40:44business to know where all the bodies
- 00:40:46are buried you should know where all the
- 00:40:47skeletons in the closet are and so if
- 00:40:48you're getting into a new thing you have
- 00:40:51to know all of the ways or as many ways
- 00:40:53as you possibly can about what's going
- 00:40:55wrong and once you do a little bit more
- 00:40:57research you often find out that there's
- 00:40:59a lot of things you don't know about and
- 00:41:00guess what the thing you do know is
- 00:41:02working right now and the likelihood
- 00:41:04that you doing 10 times more of that has
- 00:41:06far fewer unknowns than you doing brand
- 00:41:08new on something net new
- 00:41:10entrepreneurship already has so many
- 00:41:12risks and so much
- 00:41:14unknown basos talks about this he says
- 00:41:17we want to manage as many of the risks
- 00:41:20as we can so of course we're going to
- 00:41:22incur some risks that are going to
- 00:41:24happen that are unforeseen to us but the
- 00:41:25risks that we know about we want to
- 00:41:27limit to the greatest degree possible
- 00:41:29because there's enough risk of our
- 00:41:30business going out of business by being
- 00:41:32a business why take on more risk for no
- 00:41:35need it's risking what you have and need
- 00:41:38to survive for what you don't have and
- 00:41:40don't need which brings me number 11
- 00:41:42which is growth is
- 00:41:44stressful stagnation is
- 00:41:47stressful decline is
- 00:41:50stressful that means that business is
- 00:41:53stressful and so the only stressfree
- 00:41:56people are people people who are dead
- 00:41:58and if you're in business you need to
- 00:42:00accept stress as a fact of life and not
- 00:42:04something wrong with you or wrong with
- 00:42:07your particular business it's just that
- 00:42:09things are stressful in general welcome
- 00:42:11to life and so I see a lot of
- 00:42:13entrepreneurs try and change their
- 00:42:15businesses because they feel stressed
- 00:42:17but every scenario of business has
- 00:42:19stress there are different kinds of
- 00:42:20stress but they're all stressful and so
- 00:42:23the idea that there's something wrong
- 00:42:24with you or wrong with your business
- 00:42:26because it is stressful misses the point
- 00:42:28of how business works and I'll tell you
- 00:42:30an analogy to make this make sense so if
- 00:42:33you've been in business for any period
- 00:42:34of time think about your first business
- 00:42:36or think about your problems that you
- 00:42:37had two years ago or three years ago in
- 00:42:39business you're probably like oh my God
- 00:42:41those weren't even real problems those
- 00:42:42were like nothing problems well future
- 00:42:45you three years from now thinks that
- 00:42:46about your problems right now and so I
- 00:42:49think about this a lot because when I
- 00:42:50think about my problems of like when I
- 00:42:52was worried about how to get trainer
- 00:42:53show up on time and like you know some
- 00:42:55somebody's membership wasn't wasn't
- 00:42:57recurring I had churn issues or whatever
- 00:42:58it was within the within the gym that I
- 00:43:00had those problems I could solve those
- 00:43:03in my sleep now right because the
- 00:43:05problems that I have are bigger and so
- 00:43:06the thing is is that you just become
- 00:43:09more enduring you become tougher and
- 00:43:11your tolerance level for stress or what
- 00:43:14you deem to be stressful goes up and so
- 00:43:16what's really interesting about this is
- 00:43:18that I still have the same problems I
- 00:43:19had when I had a much much much smaller
- 00:43:21business I just don't think they're
- 00:43:23problems anymore and so then that means
- 00:43:25that my choice to categorize the issue
- 00:43:27as a problem is actually the greater
- 00:43:29source of stress than the problem
- 00:43:31itself and if you can adopt that
- 00:43:33perspective you can be less stressed as
- 00:43:35you grow and make better decisions and
- 00:43:37so I just I wanted to to hit this point
- 00:43:39because I I almost stopped and killed so
- 00:43:42many businesses early on because I
- 00:43:44thought there was something wrong with
- 00:43:44me or something wrong with the business
- 00:43:46because I was stressed rather than
- 00:43:48accepting that stress is a fact of life
- 00:43:50and that I'm going to continue to be
- 00:43:51stressed as long as I'm alive so
- 00:43:52fundamentally stress comes from an
- 00:43:54aversive stimulus a stimulus that's not
- 00:43:55that's not enjoyable right but if you
- 00:43:58grow there's tons of things that are not
- 00:44:00enjoyable about growth if you're
- 00:44:03stagnating there's tons of things that
- 00:44:05are not enjoyable about stagnating and
- 00:44:06if you're declining there's tons of
- 00:44:08things that are not enjoyable about
- 00:44:09declining so there's just always going
- 00:44:11to be things that you don't like get
- 00:44:12used to it number 12 this is a really
- 00:44:14tactical one I've come to adopt this
- 00:44:17theory of something called the look back
- 00:44:18window which is that customers determine
- 00:44:22whether a purchase was good based on the
- 00:44:24last purchase they made and so if you've
- 00:44:27heard the phrase what have you done for
- 00:44:28me lately it basically it's phrasing for
- 00:44:31the look back window so let me give you
- 00:44:32an example if you're an agency owner
- 00:44:34right and you start running ads for a
- 00:44:37customer now let's say the first month
- 00:44:39you charge $55,000 and they make $40,000
- 00:44:42with your ads they're happy you're happy
- 00:44:45the next month you charge the same
- 00:44:47$5,000 and let's say they make $5,000
- 00:44:50well they're less happy you still made
- 00:44:53$5,000 but they're not thrilled but in
- 00:44:55your mind you're like well I covered
- 00:44:56myself last month for eight plus months
- 00:44:58because of how much money I made them
- 00:45:00and on the third month they cancel and
- 00:45:02you're like WTF on the first month I
- 00:45:04made you eight months worth of paying me
- 00:45:07but the thing is is that the way the
- 00:45:08customer perceives that is the first
- 00:45:10month I paid five and got 40 that was a
- 00:45:12good deal the second month I paid five
- 00:45:14and got five third month you know what I
- 00:45:16don't want to risk it anymore I'm out
- 00:45:18and so they will make a judgment on the
- 00:45:22purchasing decision based on the last
- 00:45:24purchase and so we can leverage that as
- 00:45:26business owners by extending the look
- 00:45:28back window which means that the less
- 00:45:30frequently we Bill the longer people
- 00:45:33stay think about this for a second if I
- 00:45:35build every single day there would
- 00:45:37likely be a day that I had not provided
- 00:45:39that customer value and maybe there's
- 00:45:40two or three days in a row and so likely
- 00:45:42they would cancel two or three days into
- 00:45:44not getting value being built daily is
- 00:45:46pretty high if I build annually they
- 00:45:48would only have an opportunity to churn
- 00:45:51once a year and the thing is is at that
- 00:45:54point of turn what would they do now in
- 00:45:56the agency example I gave let's say they
- 00:45:59made the 40 and the five and then they
- 00:46:01made five and five let's say throughout
- 00:46:02the year we had two more good months and
- 00:46:04all in all we made them 100 Grand and
- 00:46:06they paid US 60 right or whatever now
- 00:46:08when they look back they're going to see
- 00:46:10100 versus 60 but if we bill monthly
- 00:46:13there's going to be multiple months
- 00:46:14where they were negative or break even
- 00:46:16and so the longer the window of time you
- 00:46:19do between Billings the longer the time
- 00:46:21you have to provide value and excess of
- 00:46:23your price so it allows for Less vola fa
- 00:46:27ility in their business and yours and so
- 00:46:29this is something that took me way too
- 00:46:30long to learn but as much as possible
- 00:46:33try and build for longer durations and
- 00:46:35I'm not saying get people to commit to
- 00:46:37contracts that's not what I'm saying I'm
- 00:46:39saying try and Bill Upfront for longer
- 00:46:42periods of time I'm willing to take a
- 00:46:44hit on some pricing which may seem
- 00:46:46counter to what I'm saying so that I can
- 00:46:48get higher LTV meaning if I know that I
- 00:46:50can cut churn by 3x by reducing my price
- 00:46:53by 30% so that they can pay three months
- 00:46:56up front or six months up front then I'm
- 00:46:58more than happy to do that and so
- 00:47:00there's two ways you can use a strategy
- 00:47:02strategy one is you just say this is how
- 00:47:03we do business and we need people who
- 00:47:05are committed because there's going to
- 00:47:06be volatility and we don't want the
- 00:47:08short-term volatility to affect our
- 00:47:10relationship and that's a legitimate
- 00:47:11reason to do it the other way you can do
- 00:47:13it is just have it as one of two options
- 00:47:15one that has some sort of prepayment
- 00:47:16discount that's associated with it or
- 00:47:18prepayment bonus which is one of the
- 00:47:19things I like um some level of service
- 00:47:21or some guarantee that comes with
- 00:47:22prepayment that doesn't come with
- 00:47:24month-to-month all right and by the way
- 00:47:25you can add a guarantee
- 00:47:27to people who prepay and not to people
- 00:47:29who don't so if people want to decrease
- 00:47:30their risk so think about they're
- 00:47:31they're taking on more Risk by prepaying
- 00:47:33but you attenuate or you offset that
- 00:47:35risk by adding a
- 00:47:37guarantee so they pay the same price but
- 00:47:39they get a reduction in risk for taking
- 00:47:41on an increased amount of risk so if you
- 00:47:43offer an annual pricing we know across
- 00:47:45our portfolio because we do this in a
- 00:47:47lot of businesses if you if you don't
- 00:47:49make it the default payment method and
- 00:47:50you just offer it you'll get about 10 to
- 00:47:5215% of people who take the the prepaid
- 00:47:54annual option now here's what's cool
- 00:47:56about that is that if call it 10% of
- 00:47:59people take that option you double your
- 00:48:01cash flow in the business because you
- 00:48:02get a 12x Price Right on one out of 10
- 00:48:06or one out of seven people who decide to
- 00:48:08buy well if you do that then you double
- 00:48:10the amount of cash you get up front and
- 00:48:12so for many people and many businesses
- 00:48:14that little change alone can allow
- 00:48:16marketing and advertising to be
- 00:48:17profitable and the reason having more
- 00:48:19cash up front is helpful for a business
- 00:48:20owner is that you can offset the cost of
- 00:48:23advertising and the cost of sales
- 00:48:25commissions and so you can have the
- 00:48:26these costs you have to incur to get the
- 00:48:28person in the door and so if you can
- 00:48:29frontload the cash from the customer
- 00:48:31then it means that you can do more of
- 00:48:33that faster because something called a
- 00:48:34cash conversion cycle which basically
- 00:48:36just means how fast do I get the cash
- 00:48:37back that I put out to get somebody new
- 00:48:39in and if I can break even on that or
- 00:48:41even be profitable on that in the first
- 00:48:43seven days then guess what I can do with
- 00:48:44the money go back and get another
- 00:48:46customer or two or five throughout my
- 00:48:48history as a business owner I've had
- 00:48:51four periods where I had tremendous
- 00:48:53growth and in each of those periods it's
- 00:48:55where I was making more more than two to
- 00:48:58three times what it cost me to both
- 00:48:59acquire and deliver for two customers in
- 00:49:03the first 30 days and so what that means
- 00:49:06is if I pay to get a customer and then
- 00:49:08that customer comes pre-loaded with the
- 00:49:09cash to deliver for him and get another
- 00:49:12customer and deliver to that customer
- 00:49:14then cash no longer is a constraint in
- 00:49:16the business which means that I can
- 00:49:17pretty much just crank the advertising
- 00:49:20until something else breaks in my
- 00:49:21business I mean this is how I had $1,000
- 00:49:24in my bank account in December of 2016
- 00:49:26and then in 20 months was doing 4.4
- 00:49:28million a month like the only way you
- 00:49:30could do that is getting it is basically
- 00:49:32have an infinite money glitch that
- 00:49:33happens because the thing is is that the
- 00:49:35money that you want is out there there's
- 00:49:37money everywhere if you look out the
- 00:49:39window if you look in the room you have
- 00:49:41there's somebody who paints your walls
- 00:49:42there's somebody who buy who
- 00:49:43manufactures those camera there's an
- 00:49:45electric company that funds this whole
- 00:49:46thing there's internet there's money in
- 00:49:48everything that you see with your eyes
- 00:49:50and you're afraid that there's not
- 00:49:52enough money out there there is you just
- 00:49:54have to access it and you can access it
- 00:49:56with skill by making sure that the
- 00:49:58pricing that you have and the terms that
- 00:50:00go with the purchases that you have
- 00:50:01allow you to advertise profitably so
- 00:50:04that you can get as many customers as
- 00:50:05you darn well please without entering
- 00:50:07your pockets but by entering theirs
- 00:50:08number 13 try and sell sawdust so I was
- 00:50:12talking a really good friend of mine who
- 00:50:13does 100 plus million a year and I was
- 00:50:16talking about this concept of sawdust
- 00:50:18which is in the businesses that we have
- 00:50:20I try and look at what are all of the
- 00:50:22assets that we already have at our
- 00:50:24disposal right and so with acquisition.
- 00:50:26for example I was talking to him about
- 00:50:28this I was like well I already have a
- 00:50:29building I already have the team that
- 00:50:31runs my portfolio and I already have all
- 00:50:34this lead flow from companies that are
- 00:50:36not big enough to be portfolio companies
- 00:50:37but they're still big enough that we
- 00:50:38could help and then someday later become
- 00:50:40portfolio companies and I was like is
- 00:50:42there a way that without adding more
- 00:50:44infrastructure to my existing business I
- 00:50:46could use the sawdust the stuff we
- 00:50:47already have to create a product or
- 00:50:50service that would meet the needs of
- 00:50:52those customers and so the sawdust
- 00:50:54analogy just comes from Saw Lumber Mills
- 00:50:57so they take these trees they put them
- 00:50:59in through the the lumber Mills they cut
- 00:51:00them up and they put them in the planks
- 00:51:02but at the bottom what they figured out
- 00:51:04is there's all the sawdust and then some
- 00:51:06very intelligent engineer was like huh
- 00:51:08we're just taking all the sawdust and
- 00:51:09we're throwing it out the back is there
- 00:51:11something we could do with this well it
- 00:51:12turns out one sawdust is great for
- 00:51:15plants and growing and putting it in a
- 00:51:17mulch and things like that but also if
- 00:51:18we mix this with glue we have more wood
- 00:51:22planks that we can create afterwards
- 00:51:23just using the sawdust and the chips and
- 00:51:25so they created a whole another Revenue
- 00:51:27line from stuff they already had and so
- 00:51:30right now in your business you have
- 00:51:31sawdust and it just takes a little bit
- 00:51:33of creativity to think how can I
- 00:51:35recombine some of these things that I'm
- 00:51:36already doing to then create another
- 00:51:39product line that doesn't take
- 00:51:40operational infrastructure for me to add
- 00:51:43to sell and then those added product
- 00:51:45lines often are huge margin increases
- 00:51:48because it's all profit because it's
- 00:51:50something that you already are incurring
- 00:51:51the cost for your main business so you
- 00:51:53can have this and the key to making this
- 00:51:55work is that it can not increase
- 00:51:57operational drag if you have to do a
- 00:51:59whole another thing in order to make
- 00:52:00this work that's not what you want the
- 00:52:02idea is the sawdust is already there and
- 00:52:04then all you have to do is gather it put
- 00:52:06the glue on it and then you have another
- 00:52:07product that's the concept I didn't buy
- 00:52:11another building I didn't hire another
- 00:52:13portfolio team it's just I use the team
- 00:52:15that I already have and they come down
- 00:52:17and they explain what they do within our
- 00:52:18portfolio companies to these businesses
- 00:52:20so they can become portfolio ready so
- 00:52:21they understand oh this is how they
- 00:52:23Market at a higher level oh this is how
- 00:52:24they hire at a higher level oh this is
- 00:52:26how they price oh this is how they uh
- 00:52:28sell and how they scale sales teams all
- 00:52:30of those Concepts I already have the
- 00:52:34information and expertise within my
- 00:52:35existing portfolio because I do it every
- 00:52:37day but by just having another way for
- 00:52:40people to have access obviously less
- 00:52:43than a portfolio company would to that
- 00:52:45team then I have another way to generate
- 00:52:48Revenue without having to occur the cost
- 00:52:51associated with building out a whole
- 00:52:52another business so the process that I
- 00:52:53go through is I think about all of the
- 00:52:55resources and assets that I have
- 00:52:56currently available so you have to be as
- 00:52:59detailed as you can because it's usually
- 00:53:00like a tiny piece from here it's the
- 00:53:02glue that we use for this part of the
- 00:53:05the log process but then we have the
- 00:53:07sawdust from over here if we put those
- 00:53:09together boom we have these new logs and
- 00:53:10we have the plank making machine Let's
- 00:53:13combine them and then we can do it
- 00:53:14ourselves right and so you have to think
- 00:53:16okay what are the what are the talents
- 00:53:18and the people that I have available
- 00:53:19what are the digital assets or physical
- 00:53:21assets that I have uh available to me
- 00:53:23and is there a new way that I can
- 00:53:24combine these things and so a simple one
- 00:53:26with was like in in the gym space right
- 00:53:28I had brick and mortar but we were only
- 00:53:31using the space from 5:00 a.m. to 9:00
- 00:53:33a.m. and then from 5 uh then from 400
- 00:53:35p.m. to 700 or 8:00 p.m. right so that
- 00:53:37means the rest of the day if I wanted to
- 00:53:39be a more clever business owner I could
- 00:53:41say what businesses use a gym and turf
- 00:53:45in the middle of the day that I can rent
- 00:53:47that space to that's sawdust that's
- 00:53:49additional Revenue that basically cost
- 00:53:50me nothing and so all I would have to do
- 00:53:52is say hey I'm available so if you have
- 00:53:54a team training thing or you you have
- 00:53:56some sort of sports thing with kids that
- 00:53:58goes in the middle of the day or Ends by
- 00:54:004 then you can use my whole facility and
- 00:54:02now my facility is generating Revenue
- 00:54:04because I'm paying the cost of owning
- 00:54:05that facility 247 and so I might as well
- 00:54:08make money from that so a different way
- 00:54:10of using that is called excess capacity
- 00:54:12so if you have excess capacity like uber
- 00:54:14is based on excess capacity people have
- 00:54:15cars they're not using them Airbnb you
- 00:54:17have an extra room it's excess capacity
- 00:54:19these are businesses built on other
- 00:54:21people's sawdust and you have sawdust in
- 00:54:23your business so you might as well use
- 00:54:25it yourself this is really the concept
- 00:54:26of double and triple and quadruple
- 00:54:28dipping is how can I get more leverage
- 00:54:30from the same thing and so I tell
- 00:54:32stories about our about our portfolio
- 00:54:33companies which like that gives me I
- 00:54:36have to do an intervention with the
- 00:54:37portfolio company either way but if I
- 00:54:38tell the story about it I get to double
- 00:54:40dip and use that as content and so there
- 00:54:42are many opportunities where you can get
- 00:54:43leverage you get more for what you put
- 00:54:44in by reusing the same thing in multiple
- 00:54:48different
- 00:54:49scenarios and so most businesses have
- 00:54:52tons of these excess capacity or double
- 00:54:54and triple dip potential poal sitting
- 00:54:57inside their business and they're not
- 00:54:58using them the workshops that I talked
- 00:55:01about I get to make content from those
- 00:55:03workshops I get deal flow from those
- 00:55:05workshops we get cash flow from those
- 00:55:06workshops my team gets more exposure to
- 00:55:08different types of businesses Industries
- 00:55:10so they also get better and so there's
- 00:55:12many value additive uh things that stack
- 00:55:15on top of each other from one decision
- 00:55:17by the way if you want to check out one
- 00:55:18of our workshops you can go to
- 00:55:19acquisition. comom we'd love to talk to
- 00:55:21you it's for business owners only so if
- 00:55:23you don't have a business go to
- 00:55:24school.com and we can help you start one
- 00:55:26number 14 arm your salespeople so I see
- 00:55:29too often a lot of Founders and
- 00:55:31entrepreneurs have this kind of like
- 00:55:32animosity between their sales team they
- 00:55:34feel like they shouldn't pay their sales
- 00:55:34team that much my Sal team so needy they
- 00:55:36only want lay down customers they're
- 00:55:38always complaining about the leads
- 00:55:39whatever no like you should be the
- 00:55:41tightest with your sales team because
- 00:55:43your sales team is the life is the cash
- 00:55:46flow is the life flow of your business
- 00:55:48if you don't have sales you don't have a
- 00:55:49business so they should get that level
- 00:55:50of esteem and honestly a huge portion of
- 00:55:52the business should be pretty much
- 00:55:54allocated to supporting them anding
- 00:55:56their core activities and so one of the
- 00:55:58main things that I like to do is two
- 00:55:59things one I arm my salespeople with an
- 00:56:03Excel sheet that has all the pieces of
- 00:56:06content that I have that can help
- 00:56:08overcome specific concerns from
- 00:56:10customers and so right now if you don't
- 00:56:12have a piece of content that overcomes
- 00:56:14every main concern a customer has about
- 00:56:16your services or your products do it and
- 00:56:19then as soon as you do it the best
- 00:56:21converting of those things one you'll
- 00:56:23know because you'll get sales from them
- 00:56:25because people will DM you about it like
- 00:56:26oh I didn't know that now I'm interested
- 00:56:28take those put them into a list so that
- 00:56:30your sales guys have them and they can
- 00:56:32send them to customers either before
- 00:56:33they talk to them or after they talk to
- 00:56:35them so that they can schedule a
- 00:56:36follow-up call and say hey let me send
- 00:56:38you this video it might explain your
- 00:56:40concerns let's let's touch base tomorrow
- 00:56:42after you watch it and then you can
- 00:56:43allow that content to do some of that
- 00:56:46selling for you and as soon as I did
- 00:56:48this with my sales team in Fitness when
- 00:56:50I had weight loss customers and then in
- 00:56:52gym launch when I had gym owner
- 00:56:53customers our sales went up and and the
- 00:56:56thing is is this is nice cuz I didn't
- 00:56:58have to train any of them anymore they
- 00:57:00just now had assets and resources they
- 00:57:01could deploy to leads who were a little
- 00:57:04bit colder who need a little bit more
- 00:57:05selling and they wouldn't have to spend
- 00:57:06time on the phone they just let me do
- 00:57:07the selling for them via the content
- 00:57:09that overcome that specific concern now
- 00:57:11that leads me to the second one which
- 00:57:12I'll just make as number 15 which is
- 00:57:14really big a lot of businesses don't do
- 00:57:16this but you should unify sales and
- 00:57:20advertising so those should roll into
- 00:57:22the same person and so I saw this really
- 00:57:25early on in gym launch we had two
- 00:57:27departments we had a sales department
- 00:57:28and we had a marketing department and
- 00:57:29marketing always said the sales guys
- 00:57:31weren't closing as many leads as they
- 00:57:32should and the sales guys always said
- 00:57:34that the leads weren't good enough or
- 00:57:35they didn't have enough leads right but
- 00:57:37when we unified that under a cro Chief
- 00:57:39Revenue officer which if you're the
- 00:57:41founder that's you you then say there's
- 00:57:43really just an acquisition department
- 00:57:45and fundamentally as I see it
- 00:57:47advertising and sales sit on the exact
- 00:57:49same Continuum you have low information
- 00:57:52buyers and you have high information
- 00:57:54buyers and so fundamentally a low
- 00:57:55information buyer needs not a lot of
- 00:57:57information or already has a certain
- 00:57:58amount of information to make a
- 00:58:00purchasing decision a high information
- 00:58:02buyer requires more information or
- 00:58:04doesn't have as much information when
- 00:58:06they start talking to you and so you
- 00:58:07have to fill in more holes fundamentally
- 00:58:09sales just fills in the holes that
- 00:58:12advertising failed to answer and so if
- 00:58:15you have exceptional best-in-class
- 00:58:17advertising you don't need sales it's
- 00:58:19not that they're separate departments
- 00:58:21they solve the same problem one just
- 00:58:23communicates one to many the other
- 00:58:25communicates one-onone people buy real
- 00:58:27estate on the internet via auction you
- 00:58:30don't necessarily need to have salese if
- 00:58:32you give a customer enough information
- 00:58:34they can make a purchasing decision that
- 00:58:36being said you're like wait Alex you
- 00:58:37have salespeople of course I do because
- 00:58:39there's always going to be a certain
- 00:58:40number of customers that I can get
- 00:58:42people to buy automatically and then
- 00:58:43there's people who still want more
- 00:58:44information that most likely they didn't
- 00:58:46see the advertising that answered that
- 00:58:48question and so then the salesperson can
- 00:58:49just say oh these are the three piano
- 00:58:51keys I need to play in order to get you
- 00:58:52to buy great and they fill that specific
- 00:58:55information need to turn the customer
- 00:58:57from a maybe to a yes and so unifying
- 00:59:00the two departments is one of the
- 00:59:01highest leverage moves that you can make
- 00:59:02as a Founder because it eliminates the
- 00:59:04cross- departmental BS it's we're all
- 00:59:07here to sell customers and so
- 00:59:09advertising Works hand inhand with sales
- 00:59:11not in competition with them so that
- 00:59:13they can get a pat on the head from you
- 00:59:15or whatever director is running that
- 00:59:17department so often times you are the
- 00:59:19chief Revenue officer who's uniting both
- 00:59:20of those fronts but over time if you can
- 00:59:23find someone who does that that usually
- 00:59:24is the FastTrack to being C so kale for
- 00:59:27example at gym launch became Chief
- 00:59:28Revenue officer right he basically stood
- 00:59:31on top of sales and marketing so that he
- 00:59:35could control the customers coming in
- 00:59:37the door and then once he knew how to
- 00:59:39make it rain he could run the business
- 00:59:41number 16 there are three legs to the
- 00:59:43stool and so every business needs three
- 00:59:45big functional leaders you need one
- 00:59:47person who's in charge of getting
- 00:59:49customers acquisition you need a second
- 00:59:52person who's in charge of delivery and
- 00:59:54getting those customers exactly what was
- 00:59:56promised and then third you need someone
- 00:59:58to run the internal operations of the
- 01:00:00business this is the day-to-day this is
- 01:00:01everything we do to support the other
- 01:00:03two functions so this is it legal HR
- 01:00:06these are the things that are required
- 01:00:07to keep you out of prison and so you
- 01:00:10have to have contracts you have to pay
- 01:00:11people on time you have to have a CRM
- 01:00:13that that collects all this information
- 01:00:15and this one functions as a vendor to
- 01:00:19the other two heads so think about this
- 01:00:21that person should never be making the
- 01:00:23big decisions in the business they
- 01:00:25should be supporting the decisions that
- 01:00:27enh allow us to get more customers or
- 01:00:30deliver on those customers better which
- 01:00:31if you think about it those three legs
- 01:00:33of the stool roll up to the only three
- 01:00:36things that you can do to increase
- 01:00:37Enterprise Value in business you can get
- 01:00:39more customers you can make them worth
- 01:00:41more get more customers acquisition make
- 01:00:42them worth more delivery and you can
- 01:00:45decrease risk in the business and so
- 01:00:47that is where the operations comes in if
- 01:00:49I know that everything's completely
- 01:00:50dialed we have no massive risk that
- 01:00:52we're supposed to and we can get as many
- 01:00:54customers as we don't or please and our
- 01:00:55LTV can continue to scale that is a
- 01:00:57valuable business and so it makes sense
- 01:00:59to have people who are in charge one
- 01:01:00throat to choke one chest to poke who's
- 01:01:03in charge of that function and in the
- 01:01:05beginning you may be all three but as
- 01:01:07you develop as the entrepreneur you have
- 01:01:08to think which of these three hats is
- 01:01:10more Central to my best skill set and
- 01:01:12then you can start finding the people
- 01:01:14who will compliment you and so I'll give
- 01:01:16you my rule of thumb here is that if
- 01:01:17you're not learning from these people in
- 01:01:19the interview process about what they
- 01:01:21can do better than what you're doing you
- 01:01:23need to hire better now if you're early
- 01:01:26days and you don't have the cash to
- 01:01:27bring something like that in then you
- 01:01:28got to learn a lot and that's part of
- 01:01:29Entrepreneurship but at some point you
- 01:01:31want the people that you bring in to be
- 01:01:33better at the thing than you which if
- 01:01:35you really think about it means that
- 01:01:37every business pretty much trickles up
- 01:01:39to the same thing when taken to its
- 01:01:40natural extreme which means you're going
- 01:01:42to have a head of acquisition who might
- 01:01:44have a sales director a marketing
- 01:01:46director you're going to have some sort
- 01:01:48of head of Ops who's going to have it
- 01:01:50legal HR recruiting all rolling up to
- 01:01:52them and you're going to have some sort
- 01:01:53of customer delivery or product person
- 01:01:56who is going to have fulfillment product
- 01:01:58experience ux engineering if you have
- 01:02:00software that are rolling into them if
- 01:02:02that is what the ultimate end of every
- 01:02:04business is then guess what your
- 01:02:05day-to-day looks like in a really big
- 01:02:06business the same in just about every
- 01:02:09business and so the idea that you need
- 01:02:11to keep jumping from thing to thing to
- 01:02:13thing when the ultimate expression of
- 01:02:15that business is going to be the same
- 01:02:16for you at the end kind of seems stupid
- 01:02:19if I don't like something about the
- 01:02:20business it's like I just need to get
- 01:02:21out of it I just need to get above it
- 01:02:23and so you can just develop the business
- 01:02:25bring someone else in who does like that
- 01:02:27thing and then you can have that person
- 01:02:28reporting to you and then at that point
- 01:02:30you're doing what every entrepreneur
- 01:02:31does which is they have a team of people
- 01:02:33who report to them about the things that
- 01:02:34they're doing on a daily basis and so
- 01:02:37don't get too bent out of shape about
- 01:02:39this is my opinion here this is Al this
- 01:02:41is advice from me don't get too bound
- 01:02:44out of shape About the Passion thing
- 01:02:46like love the
- 01:02:47game and whether that's selling dry
- 01:02:50cleaning or selling software or selling
- 01:02:52books or running a portfolio at the end
- 01:02:55of the day day it's more or less the
- 01:02:57same you're going to have a team of
- 01:02:58people that you like that share your
- 01:03:00values that share your mission and that
- 01:03:01you're walking alongside together with
- 01:03:04and so if you can if you can maintain
- 01:03:05that frame it will decrease the relative
- 01:03:08excitement for the woman in the red
- 01:03:10dress because you know that when it's
- 01:03:11taken to its natural end it'll be the
- 01:03:12same as The Natural end of the current
- 01:03:14business you're in number 17 the person
- 01:03:16with the highest standard should be in
- 01:03:18charge so you can think about this at
- 01:03:20every level of the business and so let's
- 01:03:23say you have a department for media
- 01:03:24buyers or you have a department for
- 01:03:26Content creators or you have a a
- 01:03:27department for salespeople or you have
- 01:03:30recruiting at every level in the company
- 01:03:32the person who has the highest standard
- 01:03:33the lowest tolerance should be the
- 01:03:35person who's in charge and that goes all
- 01:03:37the way up to the top of the business if
- 01:03:38there's ever someone in your business
- 01:03:40who is a lower tolerance or has a higher
- 01:03:42standard for excellence than you that
- 01:03:45person should be in charge and not you
- 01:03:47and so I use this as a wonderful litmus
- 01:03:49test to figure out who do I think should
- 01:03:51be promoted within a company or a
- 01:03:54division or a department or even on a
- 01:03:56tiny team who should be the lead of that
- 01:03:58team the person who has the highest
- 01:04:00standards and so when I think okay I've
- 01:04:02got all these customer support support
- 01:04:03reps who here has the highest standard
- 01:04:05for what they believe a customer service
- 01:04:07experience should look like that's the
- 01:04:09person you want in charge and so it's
- 01:04:10not tenure it's not it's not suaveness
- 01:04:13it's not how much you like them it's not
- 01:04:14what they look like it's who has the
- 01:04:16highest standard and so when I was
- 01:04:19starting up I made a lot of these
- 01:04:20mistakes I would promote people that I
- 01:04:22liked a lot I promote people who'd been
- 01:04:24there longer CU I felt it felt bad bad
- 01:04:25that this guy had been here for 18
- 01:04:27months and this person had only been
- 01:04:28there for 2 months and I'm going to
- 01:04:29promote that person over the 18-month
- 01:04:30person but guess what when you have one
- 01:04:32of those hard situations guess what you
- 01:04:34get to do you get to talk to the
- 01:04:3518-month person and you get to explain
- 01:04:37exactly why the other person got the
- 01:04:38promotion and what they need to do so
- 01:04:41that they can get promoted in the future
- 01:04:42and if you have a winner that person
- 01:04:43will step up and if you have a loser
- 01:04:45that person will step out and that's
- 01:04:47okay number 18 whenever you're
- 01:04:50hiring make sure that the person raises
- 01:04:52the average bar and so this is this is
- 01:04:54one I stole from B this is not mine but
- 01:04:57it's such a I love decision-making
- 01:04:59Frameworks because one of the hardest
- 01:05:00questions I could asked it's on a
- 01:05:01repeated basis is I don't know who to
- 01:05:03hire right or I don't know what good for
- 01:05:06this role looks like and so I'll give
- 01:05:07you two filters for that hiring process
- 01:05:11number one is during the hiring process
- 01:05:13am I learning more from them than
- 01:05:14they're learning from me now if you take
- 01:05:17three interviews guess what you might
- 01:05:19have just three bad candidates just like
- 01:05:21if you take three sales calls and you
- 01:05:23might not close any of the three it
- 01:05:24doesn't mean that you should change
- 01:05:25anything it might just mean that you got
- 01:05:27in the phone with three bad customers
- 01:05:28and just as likely three bad candidates
- 01:05:31so you want to talk to 10 or 20
- 01:05:33candidates and then what happens is if
- 01:05:35you talk to 20 candidates you'll very
- 01:05:37quickly see who are the people who
- 01:05:39really know their stuff and who doesn't
- 01:05:42and so I look for the quantity and
- 01:05:44quality of metrics that they discuss
- 01:05:46about their position in terms of how
- 01:05:48they influence success and so it's how
- 01:05:50do you define success and then what are
- 01:05:51the things that you will do what are the
- 01:05:53actions you take that will influence or
- 01:05:55increase the life that this successful
- 01:05:56event occurs and so if someone can't
- 01:05:58describe to me this sounds very basic in
- 01:06:01what ways do your actions contribute to
- 01:06:03this outcome now if you want to the 2011
- 01:06:06version this is for leadership and up
- 01:06:07you say how does that outcome Drive
- 01:06:09outcomes in the larger business if they
- 01:06:11can't connect those dots guess what they
- 01:06:14probably won't connect them in your
- 01:06:15business either now once you have an
- 01:06:18idea of okay I've talked to 20 people I
- 01:06:21there's you know three of them actually
- 01:06:23seem like they knew their stuff they
- 01:06:24gave me good quantitative quality me
- 01:06:25they could tie their behaviors to the
- 01:06:27outcomes they want and they could track
- 01:06:28that outcome to the overall business
- 01:06:30okay now I just asked the question of
- 01:06:33the people that I'm considering which of
- 01:06:35them raises the bar of the team and it's
- 01:06:38the team that they're joining so I'm not
- 01:06:39expecting a Frontline customer service
- 01:06:40rep to raise the bar of the executive
- 01:06:42team it's a different skill set
- 01:06:43different level of employee but if that
- 01:06:47Frontline customer service rep is going
- 01:06:48on a team of 10 reps then that person
- 01:06:51needs to raise the bar we were
- 01:06:52interviewing for one of our portfolio
- 01:06:54companies and so we we uh we recruit for
- 01:06:56our portfolio companies because we have
- 01:06:58a bigger brand than they do and so we
- 01:06:59can put really high level talent in
- 01:07:01using my brand to grow their their
- 01:07:02business faster so it's a way of me
- 01:07:04growing the Enterprise value of Business
- 01:07:06Without purposely using my face to grow
- 01:07:09it so I don't become keyman risk I just
- 01:07:11leverage my face to get the best talent
- 01:07:13into those companies and that's why they
- 01:07:14grow so fast Pro tip but so we were
- 01:07:17looking at um a media buyer for one of
- 01:07:19our portfolio companies and I and I
- 01:07:22think the you know they they passed a
- 01:07:24number of candidates and they were like
- 01:07:25this is is the final guy we want you to
- 01:07:26talk to him so I said fine so I talked
- 01:07:28to the candidate and the guy was great
- 01:07:31nothing wrong with him seemed you know
- 01:07:33had had decent experience and when I got
- 01:07:35off the call I I got the recruiter from
- 01:07:37my team was like hey so what you what
- 01:07:39you think should I should I pass him
- 01:07:40along or should we hire him and I was
- 01:07:42like I don't think so he's like why he's
- 01:07:44like he met all the all the requirements
- 01:07:46he had the experience he seemed like a
- 01:07:47nice guy and I thought about it more and
- 01:07:48I was like name the other people on that
- 01:07:50team so he named all the other people
- 01:07:51and I said is that guy better than any
- 01:07:53of them and he was like No And I was
- 01:07:55like then we're making the company worse
- 01:07:57and so that person has to raise the bar
- 01:08:00of that team because think about the
- 01:08:01equal opposite if every person that
- 01:08:03comes in lowers the bar of the team you
- 01:08:05eventually dilute the company to a bunch
- 01:08:06of people who suck but if you maintain
- 01:08:09that bar which is that this person has
- 01:08:10to increase the average of the team then
- 01:08:12over time a company only improves and
- 01:08:14gets better and as that person now is in
- 01:08:16the team the whole the whole team's bar
- 01:08:18now raised a little bit and so when we
- 01:08:20bring someone else in the bar goes up
- 01:08:22and if you're like wait that means that
- 01:08:23I have to keep hiring better and better
- 01:08:24people you damn stra you do that's the
- 01:08:26whole point and a mentor of mine said
- 01:08:28this and I just loved this quote he said
- 01:08:29your best talent has yet to come your
- 01:08:32best talent is in the future you haven't
- 01:08:34met them yet and so in me thinking about
- 01:08:36this and I can pass that same advice
- 01:08:38along to you is that the best employees
- 01:08:40the best teammates the best partners are
- 01:08:42in your future not your past number 19
- 01:08:44when you're dealing with that team
- 01:08:45there's five reasons that someone is not
- 01:08:48doing what you want them to do and this
- 01:08:49is super helpful for these hard
- 01:08:51conversations and I usually draw a
- 01:08:52diamond here but I'll just do it
- 01:08:54visually here's the condition someone
- 01:08:56hasn't done what you want them to do
- 01:08:57reason number one they didn't know that
- 01:08:59you wanted them to do it so you didn't
- 01:09:00communicate it clearly or you didn't do
- 01:09:02it in a written fashion whatever it was
- 01:09:03there was a miscommunication they didn't
- 01:09:04know that you wanted them to do it okay
- 01:09:06now let's say they knew that you wanted
- 01:09:08them to do it the second reason is they
- 01:09:10didn't know how to do it if they didn't
- 01:09:11know how to do it then it means that
- 01:09:12they need to be trained on the steps in
- 01:09:14order to recreate that thing now once
- 01:09:17you train them if they know that you
- 01:09:19want to do it and they know how to do it
- 01:09:20then they might not have know when you
- 01:09:22wanted to do it which means you needed
- 01:09:23to add a deadline or a timeline with the
- 01:09:25thing that you asked them to do so it's
- 01:09:27like oh I knew that I just know you
- 01:09:28needed buy Tuesday okay great so we're
- 01:09:30working our way around the fourth reason
- 01:09:32that someone won't do it is because they
- 01:09:34know that you wanted them to do it they
- 01:09:35knew how to do it and they knew when you
- 01:09:37wanted them to do it but they just
- 01:09:39didn't want to do it so they weren't
- 01:09:40motivated and with motivation obviously
- 01:09:44a massive topic a lot of it comes down
- 01:09:45to the reward cycles and Punishment
- 01:09:47Cycles associated with the work that
- 01:09:48they do and so it's how can I incentive
- 01:09:50them incentivize them properly and not
- 01:09:52necessarily monetarily you can
- 01:09:53incentivize someone by pra
- 01:09:55and by giving them Kudos you want to
- 01:09:57know something that really incentivizes
- 01:09:59people freedom and reinvesting in them
- 01:10:01if you want your team to love you give
- 01:10:03them autonomy and invest in them if you
- 01:10:05do that they're like holy cow I get so
- 01:10:07much investment from these people
- 01:10:08basically what you want is you want
- 01:10:10reciprocity to still be like if the only
- 01:10:13reason someone does something is for the
- 01:10:15paycheck you're going to miss out on the
- 01:10:17vast majority of human effort which is
- 01:10:18discretionary effort so let's say it
- 01:10:21takes this much effort to not get fired
- 01:10:23someone usually has 10 times that amount
- 01:10:25of effort available to them that they
- 01:10:27put to their Hobbies they put to their
- 01:10:29other things they put to their shower
- 01:10:30time they put to music or whatever else
- 01:10:32but they're not putting it to their role
- 01:10:34and reinvesting in it but if you invest
- 01:10:36in them and you try and uplevel their
- 01:10:38skill set either as a human being or as
- 01:10:39a professional or both then they become
- 01:10:42more valuable in your business and I
- 01:10:43think about it this way it's like well
- 01:10:44what if I invest in them and they leave
- 01:10:46well it's what if you don't and they
- 01:10:47stay so that's the fourth reason so they
- 01:10:49know that you want to do it they know
- 01:10:51how to do it they know when they want it
- 01:10:53done by and they're motivated to do it
- 01:10:54well why why still or they haven't done
- 01:10:56it they have something blocking them and
- 01:10:58so an easy analogy here is I could have
- 01:10:59the best chef in the world in the most
- 01:11:01amazing kitchen and I would say hey make
- 01:11:02me an omelet and if he knows how to make
- 01:11:04an omelette and he knows and he knows I
- 01:11:06want it right now in front of me and
- 01:11:08he's motivated to do it because he's on
- 01:11:09television but he's like I don't have
- 01:11:11eggs there's nothing he's not going to
- 01:11:13an egg out right there's nothing
- 01:11:14he's going to do and I'll tell you a
- 01:11:15real world example of this so my imunity
- 01:11:17team uh we spending a lot of so we have
- 01:11:19a big office and we built a Hu a bunch
- 01:11:21of Studio stuff invested almost a
- 01:11:23million dollars into this building just
- 01:11:24on the media side to make it awesome for
- 01:11:26them but a lot of the guys were spending
- 01:11:28their time at home editing stuff and I
- 01:11:30was like dude what the hell I was like I
- 01:11:32think we've made this a pretty sweet
- 01:11:33place like why not you know what it was
- 01:11:35the bandwidth on upload speed was low at
- 01:11:37the office and so their houses were
- 01:11:40higher or faster upload speeds and so it
- 01:11:42was it was making them way less
- 01:11:43efficient which kudos to them for being
- 01:11:46more efficient by being at home but then
- 01:11:48I was like okay well this is obviously
- 01:11:49constraint and so then we spent 120
- 01:11:52Grand to get Google Fiber drilled
- 01:11:53through the floor not through the floor
- 01:11:55like from the road to get brought into
- 01:11:57the building and now we've upload speeds
- 01:11:58of 1.2 gigs a second and so now we're
- 01:12:02way faster than they were at home and
- 01:12:04guess what the media team's here and so
- 01:12:06that was the thing that was blocking
- 01:12:07them and so here's the cool thing about
- 01:12:09this framework is that if you have a
- 01:12:11hard conversation with somebody or you
- 01:12:13perceive it to be a hard conversation
- 01:12:14because they're not doing something that
- 01:12:15you want them to do you can say I think
- 01:12:17there's five reasons that someone
- 01:12:18doesn't do it let's walk through them
- 01:12:20together and that way you can attack the
- 01:12:21reason rather than the person number 20
- 01:12:24the hardest work work is the work that
- 01:12:26you don't know how to do and the reason
- 01:12:28this is so tough is that the vast
- 01:12:31majority of the time if I said what
- 01:12:33would it take to grow your business if
- 01:12:34you only had one thing you could do by
- 01:12:36the end of the year and make sure that
- 01:12:37it was accomplished that if you just did
- 01:12:39that one thing all of your other goals
- 01:12:41would get accomplished what would that
- 01:12:42one thing be by the way that one thing
- 01:12:45is what we call a priority now the thing
- 01:12:47is is that you might not know how to
- 01:12:49make that one thing happen so it could
- 01:12:51be if I had a mega brand by the end of
- 01:12:53the year all of my other issues would go
- 01:12:55away it could be if I didn't have the
- 01:12:57turn issue that I have by the end of the
- 01:12:59year all my other issues would go away
- 01:13:01if I had a good sales director that
- 01:13:02could scale of sales team all of my
- 01:13:04issues would go away many businesses
- 01:13:06have one thing that if you think about
- 01:13:08it long enough have enough Downstream
- 01:13:10effects that it would accomplish many of
- 01:13:12these other goals that you have or more
- 01:13:14likely make them irrelevant and so what
- 01:13:16we do often times as entrepreneur is we
- 01:13:19solve the problems we already know how
- 01:13:20to solve and so we like doing those
- 01:13:22because we have fast feedback loops
- 01:13:24because it's rewarding because we you
- 01:13:25know how to solve it and so it's
- 01:13:26basically like going back to level two
- 01:13:28when you're at level three and you don't
- 01:13:29know how to beat that boss you just keep
- 01:13:31beating level two again because it feels
- 01:13:33good but the thing is is that the level
- 01:13:34three boss hasn't changed and he's still
- 01:13:36sitting there Bowser you know with his
- 01:13:38fist and his spikes sitting there ready
- 01:13:41to wreck you and so the thing is is that
- 01:13:43the hard work of Entrepreneurship is the
- 01:13:45failure that you're inevitably going to
- 01:13:48encounter by not knowing what you're
- 01:13:50doing and then taking action steps
- 01:13:52despite that with the idea that you will
- 01:13:55eventually succeed if you don't stop and
- 01:13:58so we as entrepreneurs have to accept
- 01:14:00that that is what hard feels like it is
- 01:14:02confronting the unknown that we don't
- 01:14:04know how to do and realizing that we're
- 01:14:06going to take our best shot and probably
- 01:14:08be wrong four five six times in a row
- 01:14:11and yet that single priority has not
- 01:14:14changed if we still built the Big Brand
- 01:14:16if we still hired that really good sales
- 01:14:17director if we still fixed churn in our
- 01:14:20business if that thing were solved it
- 01:14:22still doesn't become less of a priority
- 01:14:24but what happens is the entrepreneur
- 01:14:26fails once fails twice and then decides
- 01:14:28you know what I'm going to go back to
- 01:14:29level two and beat that to feed my ego
- 01:14:31to feel good about myself but most of
- 01:14:33Entrepreneurship is eating glass and
- 01:14:35that's why I said earlier growth is
- 01:14:37stressful stagnation is stressful
- 01:14:38decline is stressful because in each of
- 01:14:40those scenarios you're still doing the
- 01:14:41same thing which is that you're solving
- 01:14:43a problem you don't know how to solve
- 01:14:44yet and so the actual doing this in all
- 01:14:47three of those scenarios is the same and
- 01:14:49so that's why when you want to when you
- 01:14:51want to say stress is the problem it's
- 01:14:53not the problem stress is a fact that
- 01:14:55occurs when you solve problems and if
- 01:14:57you're solving problems you don't know
- 01:14:58how to solve welcome to the game if you
- 01:15:01knew how to do everything you'd already
- 01:15:03be Elon Musk and so the whole journey of
- 01:15:06Entrepreneurship is turning the unknown
- 01:15:08into the known through trial and error
- 01:15:10there's a company that was thinking
- 01:15:11about investing in that has a consumer
- 01:15:12package good cpg product that I asked
- 01:15:16the founder I said how hard is this to
- 01:15:18manufacture and he said it's actually a
- 01:15:20lot more complicated than I thought it
- 01:15:21would be and I was like that's amazing
- 01:15:23and he just looked at me cross-eyed and
- 01:15:24he was like why is that amazing I was
- 01:15:26like because that's more things that
- 01:15:28anyone who's going to try and copy us is
- 01:15:30going to have to overcome and if we can
- 01:15:32bet on the fact that we're more
- 01:15:33perspicacious that we're more Relentless
- 01:15:35that we're more unyielding in our desire
- 01:15:38to keep solving the problem and keep
- 01:15:40bashing our heads against The Rock until
- 01:15:42the rock gives way then we will be able
- 01:15:44to be the winners and any single thing
- 01:15:47that you have to overcome to be
- 01:15:48successful is what anybody who behind
- 01:15:51you wants to compete with you will also
- 01:15:53have to solve and so I like to think
- 01:15:55about it like there's this big rock that
- 01:15:57I have to figure out how to move with
- 01:15:59rope and some duct tape and a lot of
- 01:16:01sweat and a few guys with me and on the
- 01:16:03other side of that rock is a big bag of
- 01:16:05money and the bigger the Rock in general
- 01:16:08the bigger the bag of money I mean I use
- 01:16:09this Frame all the time at one of our
- 01:16:11other portfolio companies we have a
- 01:16:12software uh that we've developed and has
- 01:16:14now gotten really really good and is
- 01:16:15generating a lot of Revenue and there's
- 01:16:17this next big feature that we have to
- 01:16:19build out and he's like this is going to
- 01:16:20be really complicated I said well the
- 01:16:21good news is we're going to get paid
- 01:16:22$150 million when we solve it and he was
- 01:16:24was like well when you say it like that
- 01:16:26and I was like well it is like that and
- 01:16:27so when you think about these things
- 01:16:29whether it's I need to add a second uh
- 01:16:31acquisition Channel or I need to learn
- 01:16:32how to hire manage and train a sales
- 01:16:35director each of these are hard things
- 01:16:37that you have to figure out how to do
- 01:16:38but if you can quantify how much more
- 01:16:41valuable your Enterprise or your
- 01:16:42business will be as a result of this
- 01:16:44change then you can ascribe a value to
- 01:16:46it and if I said hey man if you hire
- 01:16:48that sales director I'll pay you $5
- 01:16:50million guess how motivated You'
- 01:16:52probably be more motivated but the thing
- 01:16:54is is that your business business will
- 01:16:55pay you $5 million when you solve the
- 01:16:56problem and so if you frame it that way
- 01:16:58it stops being this wo as me people are
- 01:17:00hard uh man life is stressful it's we
- 01:17:03get compensated for our ability to deal
- 01:17:05with that stress and take action despite
- 01:17:06it one of the biggest unknowns that I
- 01:17:08had when I started a few years ago is
- 01:17:10how do you run a family office so I went
- 01:17:12from an entrepreneur building businesses
- 01:17:14to I have to manage cash at a portfolio
- 01:17:19and allocations of resources in capital
- 01:17:22across multiple businesses and different
- 01:17:24Industries how many resources do I
- 01:17:26allocate in terms of man- hours to each
- 01:17:27of these companies is it proportional to
- 01:17:29the capital what kind of deal structures
- 01:17:31are going to be the things that are
- 01:17:32going to mitigate risk but also give us
- 01:17:33the most upside these are all these
- 01:17:35things that I had no experience with and
- 01:17:37so I just got on the phone with anybody
- 01:17:38who would give me time and asked them as
- 01:17:40many questions I possibly could and then
- 01:17:41guess what happened once I started doing
- 01:17:43it I learned way more than I did from
- 01:17:45all of those conversations and I
- 01:17:46developed my own thesis of how this
- 01:17:48works and so the thing is is that every
- 01:17:51time you start on something new whether
- 01:17:52it's starting a business to begin with
- 01:17:53OR learning how to run unpaid ads or
- 01:17:55learning how to sell it always feels
- 01:17:57like this big amorphous thing but once
- 01:17:59you take your first phone sale once you
- 01:18:01run your first ad once you hire your
- 01:18:04first person all of a sudden you're like
- 01:18:06oh okay I kind of wrapped my arms around
- 01:18:09it and now I can see all the holes that
- 01:18:10are there and so in my experience the
- 01:18:13faster I can get to me just wrapping my
- 01:18:14arms around me actually taking the first
- 01:18:16action you'll learn a hundred times more
- 01:18:19from your first hundred phone sales than
- 01:18:21you will from 10,000 hours of reading
- 01:18:23books about it and so my goal with a lot
- 01:18:26of the content that I have here is if I
- 01:18:27can just shrink the time between you
- 01:18:29thinking about doing it and doing it the
- 01:18:31faster you're going to get to your goal
- 01:18:32because learning is same condition new
- 01:18:35Behavior if you have not changed your
- 01:18:38conditions and your behavior Remains the
- 01:18:40Same after this video you have learned
- 01:18:42nothing and you can measure how
- 01:18:44intelligent someone is by their rate of
- 01:18:46learning which means by the rate at
- 01:18:48which they change their behavior with
- 01:18:49given a the same stimulus so if I say
- 01:18:52hey pick up the phone and answer it
- 01:18:54someone picks up the phone they say blah
- 01:18:55blah blah I say great I want you to read
- 01:18:57the script now pick up the phone now
- 01:18:59they pick up the phone they read the
- 01:19:00script same condition new Behavior
- 01:19:02they've learned and so right now in your
- 01:19:04life there are conditions that probably
- 01:19:07remain unchanged and so if your behavior
- 01:19:11does not change you learned nothing and
- 01:19:13you can measure every video every piece
- 01:19:15of content every book that you or every
- 01:19:18sales exchange every meeting you have as
- 01:19:20to will this change my behavior if it
- 01:19:23didn't it was a waste of time and if
- 01:19:25you're a younger guy and you're just
- 01:19:27getting started like you don't have a
- 01:19:28business I don't make as much content
- 01:19:30anymore for people who are getting
- 01:19:31started but if that is you I just made a
- 01:19:34video called uh brutally honest advice
- 01:19:36to my younger self uh check it out I
- 01:19:39think you'll enjoy it and it might help
- 01:19:40you get started and change your behavior
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