A Scary Toxin Causing Brain Damage & Disease - Warning Signs You May Have Mold In Your Home!

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Summary

TLDRThe podcast episode revolves around Christina's story about encountering and dealing with severe health issues caused by toxic mold in her home, revealing a broader hidden epidemic linked to environmental toxins such as mold, toxic water, and soil. A significant cover-up, often by entities in power, results in a lack of public awareness and justice for affected families, making it difficult to seek restitution. Christina, an attorney, has used her legal expertise to fight back, establishing a law firm focused on such issues. Her efforts culminated in a successful lawsuit against negligent builders and HVAC companies, highlighting systemic negligence and faulty construction practices aggravated by insurance policies excluding mold coverage. Discussion extends to a case in Hawaii where jet fuel contamination led to widespread health issues, illuminating broader concerns about environmental toxin exposure across the US, especially in military settings. Christina's advocacy demonstrates the importance of raising public awareness, legal accountability, and systemic change to ensure safe living environments. She urges individuals in toxic situations to prioritize relocating to safer environments to protect their health.

Takeaways

  • 🌍 Environmental toxins are a hidden risk affecting millions, leading to chronic illnesses.
  • 🕵️‍♂️ There's a massive cover-up hindering justice for affected families.
  • 🏠 Toxic mold in homes can cause severe health crises, often undetected for years.
  • 👩‍⚖️ Legal action is crucial in holding negligent builders accountable.
  • 🚰 Contaminated water sources in military bases show systemic negligence and risk.
  • 💡 Raising awareness and public storytelling are key to advocacy and change.
  • 💪 Affected families need to fight for their rights despite legal and institutional challenges.
  • 🚑 Immediate evacuation from toxic environments is crucial to prevent serious health consequences.
  • 📈 WHO suggests one-third of buildings may have mold exposure, needing urgent attention.
  • 🌱 Christina's case highlights legal systems can bring accountability for environmental toxins.

Timeline

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    Christina discusses two major takeaways from her experience: the hidden epidemic of chronic diseases driven by environmental toxins, and a massive cover-up preventing justice for affected families. She recounts personal health struggles due to mold exposure and the lack of awareness about it.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    As Christina's family faced mysterious symptoms and health deterioration, the discovery of mold in their home revealed the cause. She emphasizes the cover-up around toxic mold issues and talks about the severe impact on her family's health.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    Christina's investigation into mold showed its severe health effects, comparable to long COVID. Her family's behavioral and developmental issues prompted deeper research, uncovering toxic mold in their home, highlighting negligent homebuilding and a systemic cover-up.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    Discovering toxic black mold due to failed chimney flashing revealed how her seemingly safe home was poisoning her family. Facing health crises and forced to confront systemic negligence, Christina recounts the ordeal and questions about safety during quarantine.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:25:00

    Christina reflects on the betrayal of her home as a sanctuary and the isolation of dealing with a sick family without options for relocation. As a lawyer, she began building a case against negligent builders and HVAC companies, exposing intentional defects.

  • 00:25:00 - 00:30:00

    Through her legal journey, Christina discovers widespread indifference or ignorance among builders about mold risks. She commits to advocating for affected families through her law firm, highlighting the importance of legal accountability in enforcing safety standards.

  • 00:30:00 - 00:35:00

    Christina explains how legal accountability can drive change, using her case as an example against negligent contractors. She highlights the systemic issues of insurance and builder policies excluding mold, leaving homeowners without recourse, portraying a David vs. Goliath battle.

  • 00:35:00 - 00:40:00

    Despite systemic barriers, Christina's legal case against negligent building resulted in a $3.1 million verdict, highlighting the need for builders to ensure safe homes. Her case sets a precedent for holding companies accountable and emphasizes juries' roles in enforcing safety rules.

  • 00:40:00 - 00:45:00

    Winning the case provided validation and highlighted the systemic resistance faced. Christina explains the critical role of belief and perseverance in overcoming institutional gaslighting, underscoring the power of collective advocacy and the importance of expert support throughout her journey.

  • 00:45:00 - 00:50:00

    Christina's legal pursuit is now aimed at holding the U.S. government accountable for environmental contamination impacting military families in Hawaii. With her law firm growing, she advocates for those poisoned by systemic negligence, emphasizing the need for safe water and air for everyone.

  • 00:50:00 - 00:55:00

    Discussing the broader implications, Christina stresses the need to address systemic environmental and health issues affecting military and civilian homes alike. She advocates for transparency, legal accountability, and awareness to prevent toxic environments from causing harm.

  • 00:55:00 - 01:00:00

    Christina describes her firm’s ambitious goal of holding companies and governments accountable for environmental harm. By leveraging public advocacy and legal action, they aim to bring systemic change and empower affected individuals with resources and support.

  • 01:00:00 - 01:05:30

    Closing remarks emphasize the urgency of escaping toxic environments and inspiring others to seek help and wellness. Christina encourages affected individuals to connect for support and to contribute to broader advocacy efforts, aiming for systemic changes that ensure safe living conditions.

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Video Q&A

  • What are some environmental toxins mentioned in the podcast?

    Mold, polluted or toxic water, and toxic soil.

  • What symptoms did Christina and her family experience due to mold exposure?

    They experienced double vision, confusion, inner ear pain, rashes, migraines, and severe developmental regressions in her son.

  • Why is there a lack of awareness about toxic mold?

    There is a significant cover-up often by people in power that prevents information about the dangers of toxic mold from reaching the public.

  • What is one of the main legal challenges faced in mold cases?

    Builders and insurance companies often exclude mold from their policies, making it difficult to gain compensation for mold-related damages.

  • How did Christina contribute to awareness and justice regarding environmental toxins?

    She founded a law firm to advocate for families affected by environmental toxins and successfully took legal action against responsible parties.

  • What was the outcome of Christina’s legal case against the HVAC company?

    The jury found the HVAC company liable for gross negligence, resulting in a $3.1 million verdict.

  • What larger implications does the Hawaii case have for environmental toxin exposure?

    It highlights the potential widespread issue of environmental toxin exposure in other military bases and housing developments.

  • What is the World Health Organization's estimate on mold exposure in buildings?

    WHO estimates that at least one-third of buildings in North America have some form of significant mold exposure.

  • What advice does Christina provide for those living in potentially toxic environments?

    She advises getting out of the contaminated environment and finding help to recover from the exposure.

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  • 00:00:00
    Christina welcome to the podcast there
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    are two crazy takeaways that I've gotten
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    from following your story and getting
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    introduced to your work number one
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    there's a hidden epidemic of chronic
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    disease impacting millions of people at
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    least here in America that's being
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    driven largely by environmental toxins
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    things like mold and polluted or toxic
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    water toxic soil and number two and this
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    is the big one there's a massive coverup
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    attempt Often by people in power that
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    prevents families who are impacted by
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    these environmental toxins from getting
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    Justice and restitution it's a wild
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    story and not only this this happening
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    and not only is this happening this
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    happened to you and your family can you
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    start us at the beginning of the story I
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    was sick for years and I couldn't figure
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    out what was going
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    on and I was in big law which means that
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    I was at the top of my game I was doing
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    highlevel intellectual property
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    cases and I started seeing
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    double and then getting confused and
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    felt like I had been hit by a truck I
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    had this intense inner ear pain rashes
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    that wouldn't go away suddenly I had
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    migraines things that I had never had
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    before but they were getting worse and
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    worse and I started going to a series of
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    doctors as you do and they said um
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    reduce stress in your life eat better
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    exercise more and I did all those things
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    so I was gluten-free sugar- free dairy
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    free I was Christina 2.0 I got a
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    government job and then they sent said
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    um go quarantine at
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    home and it got worse
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    and my son started running into
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    walls and regressing in his
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    developmental
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    milestones and I just couldn't function
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    I couldn't see SE straight and I I
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    thought I was going to die but I didn't
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    know
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    why and I finally went to a doctor who
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    gave me a Mot toxin test and I had never
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    heard the word mot
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    Toxin and they said go test your house
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    for toxic mold again not something I'd
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    ever heard of my husband and I have five
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    IV leag degrees between us we had never
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    heard toxic mold we' never heard status
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    and we can talk about that with that's
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    intentional right there's a massive
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    cover up in this country and we didn't
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    we didn't even know we didn't know that
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    this was a thing and we started
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    investigating and we found the tip of
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    the iceberg and we got out
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    and it was a
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    nightmare as you started to peel back
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    the layers of the onion and it wasn't
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    just you experiencing these mystery
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    symptoms it was your family as well you
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    mentioned your son what were the
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    foundational things you started to learn
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    about mold and what it was doing to you
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    and your family I couldn't figure it out
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    at
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    first because if you just Google it you
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    get a lot of conflicting
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    information so I went to the source I
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    went to PubMed and I just started
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    reading the medical literature myself
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    and what does mold do to your body and
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    it causes a cyto kind storm that's a lot
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    like long Co this is iic inflammation it
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    affects every aspect of your body but it
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    can especially attack your brain and it
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    started making sense my daughter who was
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    eight at the time had started beating up
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    her big brother and it just become
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    violent
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    overnight and then my 2-year-old was
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    running into walls regressing and
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    developmentmental Milestones and then I
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    felt like I was going crazy I
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    contemplated driving into oncoming
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    traffic I'd never had had any thoughts
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    like that in my whole life
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    and I just understood for the first time
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    that there was something else going
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    on
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    and it started making sense and then we
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    started peeling back the onion on the
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    house and I had a mold inspector come to
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    our house and he
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    said tell me about your family and he
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    sat down on my living room couch I mean
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    I it's like Pest Control comes in and
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    says can I sit down that just doesn't
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    even happen and I I didn't really
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    understand and I but I started telling
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    him about my daughter because I'd
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    started reading about mot toxins and
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    maybe this is what was going on with her
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    and he said I often find it behind the
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    wall of the kid most affected so he took
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    a flashlight to her wall and he found
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    faint water
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    damage and he took an air sample right
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    next to the wall and he found stacky Bas
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    which is a black mold incredibly
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    dangerous it's used in biological
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    warfare I learned later and we opened
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    the wall and it was
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    black and a roofer had failed to flash
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    the chimney at the roof and so water had
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    been coming into that wall for nine
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    years wow my poor little girl was
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    quarantining and was at home you know
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    everyone was out of school so she wasn't
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    getting an escape and she was just in
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    her room coloring for hours at a time
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    next to a substance that's used in
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    biological
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    warfare and um you know it's
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    heartbreaking because you have this
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    guilt as a
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    parent why didn't we know why didn't I
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    figure it out
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    sooner but I'm just so thankful that we
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    got out because I think I think we would
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    have died I think I would have died by
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    the time I left I had a tumor I
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    collapsed and went to the emergency
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    room um I had extreme anemia and I had
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    my my heart was beating so fast as my
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    body was detoxing and again I just I
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    just thought I was going to die and you
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    know you start kind of making plans like
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    what happens
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    if what happens if I don't make
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    it you know all the while you're living
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    in this house which was in Austin
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    Texas thinking you've created a home a
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    protective safe haven for your family
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    and little did you know your house was
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    actually poisoning you and during that
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    time and we later got to tell this story
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    to a jury and and we asked the jury you
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    know tell what does home mean to
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    you it means
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    Sanctuary
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    safety Comfort family what did it mean
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    to you during
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    covid it meant
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    Health
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    Oasis
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    protection so we were in this home that
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    was supposed to be keeping keeping us
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    safe at the time we wouldn't I wouldn't
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    let us go out to the grocery store and
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    we learned that it was our home that was
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    killing us not this pathogen that was
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    out there but a pathogen that was right
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    here and we had nowhere to
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    go because who's going to take a family
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    of
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    six two of wh three of whom have like
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    serious neurological problems I mean my
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    my kids were not okay and I couldn't
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    just subject someone else to that so we
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    didn't feel like we had anywhere to go
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    um and it's very confusing when you're
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    in a house that's poisoning you because
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    you don't want to believe it and it
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    takes you a little while to to
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    understand you you H you have to get out
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    you have to get out and thankfully we
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    did and then I started building the case
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    um and just for people who are following
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    along you're a lawyer I'm a lawyer and
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    at the time I was a personal injury
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    lawyer for the first time I had grown up
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    in patent litigation but when I started
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    not feeling well I went to the
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    government to the Department of Justice
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    and I was an assistant us attorney and I
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    was doing personal injury defense for
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    the United States of America so I was on
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    the defensive side and I know a good
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    case I know what to look for and here we
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    were a family of six we had lost our
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    house and everything in it and we had
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    six very sick people because of the
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    clear negligence of the Builder the roer
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    and ultimately the hvat company um they
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    had created an incredibly unsafe house
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    that was poisoning my family and I
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    learned later was
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    intentionally um
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    intentionally
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    defective let's talk about that for a
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    second you know you lived in a nice home
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    right it was beautiful it was beautiful
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    we're not talking about uh washed up
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    remodel that you guys were just getting
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    by in this was a nice home and I mention
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    this because a lot of people who don't
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    hear about mold and its
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    potential harm on the human body and
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    you've mentioned that that's partially
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    intentional and that we'll get to that
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    in a second there's a little bit of a
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    coverup that's there a lot of people
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    think well sure you find some mold
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    whether you're renting or you own a home
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    it's no big deal you know my landlord
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    might come in and paint over it or make
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    it go away or you find some mold by the
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    SL sink you clean it
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    up why was this different and how did
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    the mold exposure that you guys had this
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    black mold which you mentioned is used
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    in biological
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    warfare how did it not only cause these
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    symptoms but lead to in some instances
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    with your family's health some permanent
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    damage we're building these houses now
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    now to be energy efficient and my house
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    was one of the first on the cusp of that
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    it was built in 2011 with spray foam
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    insulation and the idea is if we build
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    it to be energy efficient um we're going
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    to spend less on
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    energy air conditioning is going to work
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    better all of that but the problem is if
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    the house becomes
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    toxic then you're in an energy efficient
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    toxic bubble and hvat companies are not
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    used to dealing with these houses with
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    spray foam you have to be very very
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    meticulous about how you set up the
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    system so that it can be safe for the
  • 00:10:37
    inhabitants the tenants and they they
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    didn't do that in my case so two things
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    happened
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    one the roofer fla didn't Flash the
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    chimney which means that he didn't put
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    in the waterproofing at the
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    chimney so you have to work with the
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    Mason the roofer and the Mason have to
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    work
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    together and
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    when you build when you put the the
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    bricks together to build a chimney the
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    roofer wasn't there when the mason built
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    the chimney and he told the Builder and
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    the Builder's Foreman hey the chimney is
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    not
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    flashed it needs to be
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    redone and the foreman said don't worry
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    about it just rig it and that's what
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    they did they just put the metal on the
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    outside to make it look like it had been
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    flashed but it hadn't been flashed but
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    with the spray foam does is it it hides
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    water damage so it had been leaking into
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    that wall for 9 years nine straight
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    years but we couldn't see it because of
  • 00:11:38
    the spray foam and then when we opened
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    the wall and saw the black I had an
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    expert come over to look at you know
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    what's going on here and he said this is
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    not just a flashing problem you have a
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    humidity
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    problem because we learned that our HVAC
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    had not been connected to dehumidify
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    so there was a wire that was intended to
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    be connected so that it would have extra
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    dehumidification which is required in a
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    spray foam house and they hadn't
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    connected it so it was a combination of
  • 00:12:14
    the roofer the Builder and the HVAC that
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    had created this toxic bubble that we
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    were then quarantining in and this and
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    we are not alone there are millions of
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    Americans who were quarantining in
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    houses that were making them sick
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    because the indoor air quality in our
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    country is so bad right now and it's bad
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    because these Builders don't care they
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    don't care they don't care about mold
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    they don't care really about the health
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    of the tenants who are going to live in
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    the houses and to be fair in some
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    circumstances they just don't know they
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    either don't care or they don't know
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    either one is a
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    problem you know we have you on the
  • 00:12:52
    podcast today not just to tell your own
  • 00:12:53
    story and it's a powerful story we have
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    you on here because you have made this a
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    mission in your life to fight for the
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    underdog step one by telling your story
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    and raising awareness but step two you
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    went on to which we'll chat about
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    later you went on to found a law firm
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    that was and can be an advocate for
  • 00:13:21
    families like yours you know you
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    mentioned millions of families are going
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    through this even though we're done
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    quarantine in the days of covid still if
  • 00:13:29
    you live at home if you sleep six to8
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    hours a night which almost everybody
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    does you are regularly in a house that
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    could be exposing you to all sorts of
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    environmental toxins mold being one of
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    the biggest problems that are there in
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    fact the World Health Organization
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    estimates Bas estimates based on their
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    guidelines that at least onethird of the
  • 00:13:52
    buildings in North America have some
  • 00:13:55
    form of significant mold exposure due to
  • 00:13:58
    the way that we build and those sound
  • 00:14:00
    like conservative estimates to me just
  • 00:14:03
    having friends even in a place like La
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    that it doesn't rain that often I know
  • 00:14:08
    mold has been a big problem for a lot of
  • 00:14:10
    individuals so I'm highlighting because
  • 00:14:13
    number one anybody who follows along
  • 00:14:16
    with this podcast is not only going to
  • 00:14:18
    learn how to protect themselves and
  • 00:14:20
    their family and what to be on the
  • 00:14:21
    lookout for but those individuals that
  • 00:14:24
    have been impacted maybe your law firm
  • 00:14:28
    and what you guys are to could be a
  • 00:14:30
    potential advocate for them or a larger
  • 00:14:32
    group that they're part of anything you
  • 00:14:35
    want to add to that we we have to hold
  • 00:14:38
    the builders
  • 00:14:39
    accountable you know we we talk about
  • 00:14:42
    how to make the world a safer place and
  • 00:14:45
    the jury system in our country is
  • 00:14:47
    actually one way we do that the jurors
  • 00:14:50
    are charged with the safety rules in the
  • 00:14:53
    United States of enforcing the safety
  • 00:14:54
    rules and that's a privilege and an
  • 00:14:57
    honor that a jury of your peers gets to
  • 00:15:00
    do that and so there you and others and
  • 00:15:06
    so many have been focusing on on the
  • 00:15:10
    health aspects and education aspects of
  • 00:15:15
    changing the food and the environment we
  • 00:15:18
    live in but there's this piece that's
  • 00:15:20
    missing I think or this this piece to
  • 00:15:23
    add add to those tools which is the
  • 00:15:25
    legal piece because the legal system is
  • 00:15:29
    another way
  • 00:15:31
    to Advocate to educate and to bring
  • 00:15:37
    accountability and
  • 00:15:38
    change so that's what that's what I'm
  • 00:15:40
    hoping we can add to the conversation
  • 00:15:43
    let's talk about that accountability you
  • 00:15:44
    know accountability in the legal system
  • 00:15:46
    are often used and historically have
  • 00:15:49
    been used in the face of a David and
  • 00:15:52
    Goliath's story that there are powers
  • 00:15:55
    that are entrenched who don't want to
  • 00:15:58
    disrupt the status quo talk about the
  • 00:16:01
    status quo that exists out there that's
  • 00:16:05
    part of what led to the unique
  • 00:16:07
    circumstance where your family ended up
  • 00:16:10
    getting sick well there's a vast
  • 00:16:12
    conspiracy as there is so so often in so
  • 00:16:15
    many of these things but what happened
  • 00:16:18
    was in Texas there was a case called the
  • 00:16:19
    Ballard case and there was a woman like
  • 00:16:21
    me Melinda Ballard whose family got
  • 00:16:23
    incredibly sick she went on to win a
  • 00:16:26
    case against the insurance company at a
  • 00:16:29
    jury trial that awarded $38 million huge
  • 00:16:33
    award insurance companies didn't like
  • 00:16:36
    that so they went and started excluding
  • 00:16:40
    mold from their insurance policies so
  • 00:16:43
    now your Builder's insurance policy
  • 00:16:47
    doesn't include
  • 00:16:48
    mold which is the most catastrophic
  • 00:16:51
    thing that can happen to a house other
  • 00:16:53
    than a fire mold is the most
  • 00:16:55
    catastrophic thing that can happen
  • 00:16:56
    because it can overtake the entire house
  • 00:16:58
    you can lose your entire house and be
  • 00:17:01
    uninsured so that was one of the things
  • 00:17:03
    that happened to us we realized that we
  • 00:17:04
    were uninsured for this catastrophic
  • 00:17:07
    event that we didn't even know could
  • 00:17:08
    possibly happen and we had all the best
  • 00:17:11
    insurance we cared about our house we
  • 00:17:14
    loved our house we had the best
  • 00:17:16
    insurance money could buy but it didn't
  • 00:17:18
    cover this catastrophic event which was
  • 00:17:23
    a toxic
  • 00:17:24
    mold event nor did the insurance
  • 00:17:27
    policies of the defendants of the
  • 00:17:30
    Builder and the roofer and the at
  • 00:17:35
    company so you had this situation
  • 00:17:39
    where no one's responsible because no
  • 00:17:41
    one has coverage so personal injury
  • 00:17:44
    lawyers stopped taking these cases and I
  • 00:17:47
    couldn't find anyone to help me I called
  • 00:17:50
    around to Texas lawyers and no one took
  • 00:17:52
    no one returned my
  • 00:17:54
    call I was another lawyer I was at the
  • 00:17:56
    US attorney's office I was I was a smart
  • 00:17:59
    you know
  • 00:18:01
    educated I thought nice person emailing
  • 00:18:04
    them saying hey can you spend 15 minutes
  • 00:18:05
    with me to talk about this kind of case
  • 00:18:08
    and they didn't return my emails didn't
  • 00:18:10
    return my calls and one of them in San
  • 00:18:13
    Antonio had molded on his website but he
  • 00:18:16
    said he did wrongful death
  • 00:18:18
    cases and I thought well surely he can
  • 00:18:20
    talk to me and he didn't return my call
  • 00:18:25
    and I emailed him didn't you know got
  • 00:18:27
    his personal Direct email he didn't
  • 00:18:29
    return my email didn't even have a
  • 00:18:31
    paralal call me back and I just thought
  • 00:18:34
    you know what he can take all the dead
  • 00:18:37
    people and maybe I'll start a firm and
  • 00:18:39
    I'll represent the people who are
  • 00:18:41
    alive who need to
  • 00:18:44
    recover and I don't care if insurance
  • 00:18:47
    companies don't cover
  • 00:18:49
    it I'm going to do it
  • 00:18:51
    anyway and that's what we did in our own
  • 00:18:54
    case we carried on and they said well
  • 00:18:57
    our policy doesn't cover it I said said
  • 00:18:58
    well see you tomorrow we've got a
  • 00:19:01
    deposition on Tuesday and we just kept
  • 00:19:03
    going and by the way every one of those
  • 00:19:07
    insurance policies ultimately ended up
  • 00:19:10
    paying because they have to pay the
  • 00:19:13
    lawyers so these lawyers these Insurance
  • 00:19:15
    lawyers end up spending hours and hours
  • 00:19:17
    and hours they ring up this enormous
  • 00:19:20
    Bill and then the insurance policy says
  • 00:19:23
    that they don't they're not going to
  • 00:19:24
    cover it anyway and then on the eve of
  • 00:19:27
    trial that insurance lawyer who's being
  • 00:19:30
    paid who's been paid hundreds of
  • 00:19:32
    thousands of dollars to defend the case
  • 00:19:33
    doesn't actually want to go to trial on
  • 00:19:35
    the case because they know that you're
  • 00:19:36
    going to win so they ultimately end up
  • 00:19:38
    paying anyway it's the most insane
  • 00:19:42
    system and the insurance companies are
  • 00:19:46
    one of the
  • 00:19:48
    culprits one of the other layers that
  • 00:19:50
    it's part of this vast conspiracy is
  • 00:19:54
    that I'll hear from
  • 00:19:56
    people that hey I just moved into a
  • 00:19:59
    place and I've had issues with mold in
  • 00:20:02
    the past but don't worry they had an
  • 00:20:06
    inspector go and look at the property
  • 00:20:09
    whether you're renting and it was
  • 00:20:11
    inspected before you came in whether
  • 00:20:13
    you're buying and there was an inspector
  • 00:20:16
    sent over by the the uh sell's side and
  • 00:20:22
    the place got a thumbs up there's no
  • 00:20:23
    mold tell us why that is part of this
  • 00:20:27
    conspiracy
  • 00:20:29
    well landlords don't care they don't
  • 00:20:31
    they don't care they want to make money
  • 00:20:33
    and they either again don't care or
  • 00:20:35
    don't know so when they are told that
  • 00:20:38
    there's a mold
  • 00:20:41
    problem one they've been brainwashed to
  • 00:20:43
    believe that mold isn't real so they
  • 00:20:46
    they haven't actually gone to the
  • 00:20:47
    scientific literature in red Pub met
  • 00:20:49
    like I have so they they think well this
  • 00:20:51
    is just a crazy person who thinks that
  • 00:20:52
    there's a problem and there isn't really
  • 00:20:54
    so they treat the person as crazy that's
  • 00:20:56
    one step but then they'll come in and
  • 00:20:58
    just paint over it or they'll call a
  • 00:21:00
    mold inspector and the mold inspector
  • 00:21:02
    will come and take an air sample in the
  • 00:21:04
    middle of the room and they'll be like
  • 00:21:06
    you're you're good no
  • 00:21:08
    worries I love to take the deposition of
  • 00:21:10
    that mold inspector I say now sir where
  • 00:21:14
    is mold likely to be
  • 00:21:16
    found in the
  • 00:21:18
    wall well if you're looking for mold are
  • 00:21:21
    you more likely to find it close to the
  • 00:21:24
    wall or in the middle of the
  • 00:21:27
    room
  • 00:21:28
    uh he doesn't want to answer the
  • 00:21:30
    question right because they're testing
  • 00:21:33
    in the place Le least likely to find
  • 00:21:37
    mold as my mold inspector Tim Taylor who
  • 00:21:40
    saved our life as as he said you find it
  • 00:21:44
    behind the wall of the kid most affected
  • 00:21:47
    so if you're looking for mold you
  • 00:21:48
    actually start you have to start with
  • 00:21:50
    health ask about health you have to
  • 00:21:54
    actually want to find it but if you're
  • 00:21:58
    you're working for the landlord you
  • 00:22:00
    don't want to find it so the incentives
  • 00:22:02
    are just so off and jurries care and
  • 00:22:07
    that's why we have a lot of cases
  • 00:22:09
    against those landlords because if you
  • 00:22:12
    paint over a toxic substance that's the
  • 00:22:15
    intentional infliction of bodily harm
  • 00:22:17
    I'm going to I'm I'm going to call that
  • 00:22:19
    out and juries
  • 00:22:22
    think that could happen to
  • 00:22:25
    me the tenant didn't know
  • 00:22:29
    what if your house is slowly killing you
  • 00:22:30
    and you don't know but your landlord
  • 00:22:34
    did can't we all agree that the
  • 00:22:36
    landlord's main responsibility is to
  • 00:22:39
    provide you a home that's safe a home
  • 00:22:43
    with safe
  • 00:22:44
    eror it's absolutely unacceptable for
  • 00:22:47
    the landlord to provide you a home that
  • 00:22:49
    doesn't have safe air and these are just
  • 00:22:52
    intuitive things let's just say them out
  • 00:22:54
    loud and for reasons I've just explain
  • 00:22:58
    that no one has been saying it out loud
  • 00:23:00
    in the legal context for a while now and
  • 00:23:03
    that has to change well you've been a
  • 00:23:04
    big part of that change give us a little
  • 00:23:07
    summary of your final arguments to the
  • 00:23:10
    jury and what helped them put themselves
  • 00:23:14
    in your shoe and what was the verdict in
  • 00:23:18
    your case well it was painful that I
  • 00:23:20
    couldn't bring my own closing argument
  • 00:23:22
    because I couldn't be a lawyer in my own
  • 00:23:24
    case so I had to watch Bob mcke and
  • 00:23:27
    Kevin taz's do it and they're fabulous
  • 00:23:29
    lawyers and Bob mck started with the
  • 00:23:33
    basic premise that your
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    [Music]
  • 00:23:36
    home is your safe haven it's supposed to
  • 00:23:40
    be
  • 00:23:42
    safe and there are these safety rules
  • 00:23:47
    that a builder must create a safe
  • 00:23:53
    house and we have to exercise care we
  • 00:23:57
    when we do something when we undertake
  • 00:23:59
    to do something we have to do it in a
  • 00:24:02
    way that doesn't cause harm to
  • 00:24:04
    others and what the hvat company because
  • 00:24:08
    we ultimately went to trial against the
  • 00:24:09
    hvat company what they did here
  • 00:24:13
    was they knew in that case how dangerous
  • 00:24:17
    mold was and they knew that humid
  • 00:24:21
    humidity could cause
  • 00:24:23
    mold and they didn't connect the
  • 00:24:26
    dehumidification system
  • 00:24:29
    and then they came to trial and tried to
  • 00:24:31
    blame it on the
  • 00:24:33
    victim and that didn't go well and the
  • 00:24:38
    jury the jury believed the jury saw
  • 00:24:40
    right through it and saw that this HVAC
  • 00:24:42
    company hadn't connected the wires
  • 00:24:45
    properly and had caused harm now was
  • 00:24:48
    that
  • 00:24:51
    intentional no a lot of this is not
  • 00:24:53
    intentional some of it's intentional If
  • 00:24:55
    a landlord paints over the toxic
  • 00:24:57
    exceptions it's intentional but often
  • 00:25:00
    it's negligent and here it was gross
  • 00:25:03
    negligence and I will never forget I'm
  • 00:25:05
    sitting we're sitting in the jury in the
  • 00:25:08
    we're sitting in the waiting room and of
  • 00:25:12
    course dying for that verdict to come
  • 00:25:14
    back and the jury sends back a note and
  • 00:25:18
    the question
  • 00:25:21
    was is
  • 00:25:24
    incompetence a deceptive Act
  • 00:25:28
    according to the jury
  • 00:25:30
    instructions you know I I ultimately the
  • 00:25:34
    jury determined yes they found the
  • 00:25:37
    defendant liable for gross negligence
  • 00:25:40
    and found that that was in fact uh that
  • 00:25:42
    their conduct was a deceptive act
  • 00:25:48
    and I it was it was it was a beautiful
  • 00:25:51
    thing it was um it was a really really
  • 00:25:53
    beautiful thing and the defense the
  • 00:25:56
    defendants closing was also really
  • 00:26:00
    telling the defense the defense
  • 00:26:04
    said the Bears are
  • 00:26:09
    clearly he didn't say rich but he
  • 00:26:11
    basically said they have
  • 00:26:13
    resources and when something happens to
  • 00:26:18
    you you need to be thankful for what you
  • 00:26:25
    have and he implied that because we
  • 00:26:28
    brought this case that we weren't
  • 00:26:30
    thankful for what we do
  • 00:26:32
    have and that really bothered me for a
  • 00:26:34
    long
  • 00:26:38
    time and then I it actually brought
  • 00:26:41
    Clarity to me because ultimately you can
  • 00:26:44
    be thankful for what you have and also P
  • 00:26:47
    pursue Justice for what you lost and
  • 00:26:50
    often you have to do that because you
  • 00:26:52
    have no other choice financially or
  • 00:26:56
    ethically and the pursuit of gratitude
  • 00:27:01
    and Justice at the same
  • 00:27:03
    time is
  • 00:27:06
    Shalom that is they're United that is it
  • 00:27:10
    is it is it's
  • 00:27:12
    it's not only can It coincide but it
  • 00:27:16
    should
  • 00:27:17
    coincide when families like yours go
  • 00:27:20
    through these horrific experiences and
  • 00:27:23
    many of them never get Justice and you
  • 00:27:27
    mention that's for a bunch of reasons
  • 00:27:29
    including the fact that a lot of lawyers
  • 00:27:32
    don't pick up these cases they find them
  • 00:27:36
    very hard to get financial restitution
  • 00:27:40
    out of so they're not
  • 00:27:42
    incentivized and they're undereducated
  • 00:27:44
    on these topics but you guys went up
  • 00:27:48
    against Goliath and you won now part of
  • 00:27:54
    this is
  • 00:27:55
    also trying to get some
  • 00:27:59
    finances out of the parties that are
  • 00:28:02
    responsible because your life has been
  • 00:28:04
    upended by this and the secondary aspect
  • 00:28:08
    so besides Justice and sometimes Justice
  • 00:28:11
    takes a financial reward to make up for
  • 00:28:14
    all the losses that are there I don't
  • 00:28:16
    know the details of exactly your case
  • 00:28:17
    but I'm sure you had so many
  • 00:28:20
    expenses getting out of the house
  • 00:28:22
    staying somewhere else finding a new
  • 00:28:24
    place not to mention the thousands May
  • 00:28:27
    hundreds of thousands of dollars that
  • 00:28:29
    were spent on your health and luckily
  • 00:28:31
    you guys had some of those resources but
  • 00:28:34
    for any family that's going to be a big
  • 00:28:36
    Financial
  • 00:28:37
    impact so this is recouping
  • 00:28:41
    time effort money that was spent to get
  • 00:28:44
    you healthy and safe but it also lets
  • 00:28:48
    other people know and it places
  • 00:28:51
    companies on
  • 00:28:53
    notice that hey you can't just hide from
  • 00:28:58
    this so what was the financial judgment
  • 00:29:00
    in your case and have you seen that set
  • 00:29:04
    new precedent in the law it was $3.1
  • 00:29:08
    million and it has absolutely sent
  • 00:29:12
    precedent because injury is hard to
  • 00:29:15
    prove and in our case our judge would
  • 00:29:17
    not even let us prove bring an injury
  • 00:29:20
    case so she we we showed up with the
  • 00:29:23
    best experts in the field and she
  • 00:29:24
    wouldn't even let us do it um we could
  • 00:29:26
    get into that
  • 00:29:28
    but what my case showed
  • 00:29:31
    is so be it we won
  • 00:29:35
    anyway we had a million dollars in
  • 00:29:38
    Damages economic damages we lost our
  • 00:29:41
    house and everything in it we spent
  • 00:29:44
    $700,000 trying to fix the house because
  • 00:29:46
    we found more and more and more we were
  • 00:29:49
    so bankrupt that my father-in-law took
  • 00:29:52
    out a loan on his house I mean we we we
  • 00:29:56
    borrowed all the money we could could
  • 00:29:57
    and then our family borrowed as much
  • 00:29:59
    money as they could to help us get well
  • 00:30:03
    and I say that when you're in this place
  • 00:30:07
    you spend all that you have getting well
  • 00:30:09
    it doesn't matter how much money you
  • 00:30:11
    have you spend it all getting well
  • 00:30:13
    because you are desperate to get well
  • 00:30:16
    and I called my firm just well because I
  • 00:30:19
    just want people to be well and that's
  • 00:30:21
    what I said at the time and that's what
  • 00:30:23
    all my clients ultimately want is just
  • 00:30:25
    to be well so that's the financial piece
  • 00:30:29
    of it why my case really matters in the
  • 00:30:32
    world is that we
  • 00:30:35
    showed that juries care not just about
  • 00:30:39
    the injury but about the bad acts their
  • 00:30:44
    job is to enforce the safety rules in
  • 00:30:46
    this country their job is to make sure
  • 00:30:49
    that the that the companies are on
  • 00:30:51
    notice that they have to they have to
  • 00:30:54
    exercise good care right they if there
  • 00:30:57
    is a dehumidification system you have to
  • 00:30:59
    connect the wire and if you don't you're
  • 00:31:03
    going to be liable for whatever happens
  • 00:31:05
    after that's the that's responsibility
  • 00:31:08
    that's the way the world should be and
  • 00:31:09
    that's what juries are going to do so in
  • 00:31:12
    all my other cases we're proving injury
  • 00:31:14
    right there's no other case where we
  • 00:31:16
    haven't proven injury we're always
  • 00:31:17
    proving injury but I get to say to
  • 00:31:20
    defendants okay you think we have a
  • 00:31:22
    causation injury problem
  • 00:31:25
    sure if a jury in my case gave $3.1
  • 00:31:28
    million for not connecting a wire what's
  • 00:31:31
    a jury going to do in your case when you
  • 00:31:35
    came in and painted over a toxic
  • 00:31:38
    substance or you took off the vent of an
  • 00:31:41
    HVAC system and you cleaned it in front
  • 00:31:43
    of the clients and you said this is it's
  • 00:31:45
    perfect now don't worry and you put it
  • 00:31:47
    back knowing full well that behind that
  • 00:31:50
    vent was a system full of toxic
  • 00:31:54
    mold that's those are the kinds of cases
  • 00:31:56
    I have have so you know bring it is kind
  • 00:32:01
    of our attitude bring it whatever you
  • 00:32:03
    have bring it because we will hold these
  • 00:32:07
    companies responsible and we will get
  • 00:32:10
    compensation and recovery for our
  • 00:32:12
    clients tell us about what it was like
  • 00:32:14
    to hear that jury verdict on your
  • 00:32:17
    end it was such a
  • 00:32:19
    relief it was such a
  • 00:32:22
    relief to be
  • 00:32:25
    believed that's ultimately what ites
  • 00:32:27
    comes down to
  • 00:32:28
    because these defendants whoever they
  • 00:32:31
    are honestly and and we can talk about
  • 00:32:33
    the government too which is part of the
  • 00:32:34
    problem but these defendants make you
  • 00:32:37
    feel like you're crazy they hired an
  • 00:32:40
    expert to say that I had a somatic
  • 00:32:43
    disorder I've never had a I mean I've
  • 00:32:45
    never been psycho I
  • 00:32:48
    mean they hired Evan and I went to
  • 00:32:50
    Princeton they hired a Princeton PhD to
  • 00:32:54
    say that my parenting was unconscionable
  • 00:32:56
    and that I should have have had my
  • 00:32:57
    daughter admitted to a psych Institute
  • 00:33:03
    Institution but they didn't end up
  • 00:33:05
    bringing any of those people to
  • 00:33:07
    trial and and at trial I will never
  • 00:33:10
    forget when opposing Council this very
  • 00:33:12
    cocky jerk very cocky jerk pulls
  • 00:33:16
    up our map of of our diagram of all the
  • 00:33:21
    mold in our house we had we basically
  • 00:33:22
    took a floor plan we labeled all the
  • 00:33:25
    places where there was mold
  • 00:33:27
    I'll I'll show you a picture
  • 00:33:30
    and he put it up there and he said to
  • 00:33:32
    the jury I'm not going to tell you that
  • 00:33:35
    there wasn't mold in the
  • 00:33:37
    house and he used my diagram to say that
  • 00:33:40
    because when it comes down to it when
  • 00:33:42
    the when the rubber hits the road
  • 00:33:45
    they're they can't look at the jury and
  • 00:33:47
    lie they can't take that evasive cover
  • 00:33:51
    up approach they're not going to get up
  • 00:33:54
    there and actually say that the victim
  • 00:33:56
    has a somatic dis order but they're
  • 00:33:58
    going to do
  • 00:33:59
    it every day until the end so this
  • 00:34:03
    notion that the jury believed me
  • 00:34:06
    believed us was
  • 00:34:09
    everything and that's what I try to give
  • 00:34:11
    to our clients this notion that you're
  • 00:34:15
    believed you came to the right place we
  • 00:34:16
    believe you it starts with that you know
  • 00:34:20
    to pull on that thread of belief at the
  • 00:34:22
    beginning of your journey you had
  • 00:34:25
    doctors again any well-intentioned but
  • 00:34:28
    undereducated on the impact that mold
  • 00:34:32
    and other environmental toxins can have
  • 00:34:34
    on the
  • 00:34:35
    body they didn't believe that something
  • 00:34:38
    was going on they said you were stressed
  • 00:34:41
    that you were depressed again they were
  • 00:34:43
    doing the best that they knew and they
  • 00:34:45
    were undereducated and that's really
  • 00:34:47
    goes to our larger medical system and
  • 00:34:50
    getting the word out about mold which
  • 00:34:52
    this podcast is doing many other
  • 00:34:54
    podcasts that you've been on are doing
  • 00:34:55
    as
  • 00:34:55
    well
  • 00:34:58
    and then you go to
  • 00:35:01
    court even before that I'm sure you
  • 00:35:03
    tried to have discussions with the
  • 00:35:04
    parties that were responsible the
  • 00:35:07
    roofers the HVAC the builders and you
  • 00:35:10
    weren't believe
  • 00:35:11
    there and then finally to have a jury of
  • 00:35:14
    your peers
  • 00:35:16
    say not only do we believe you but
  • 00:35:19
    you've been wronged and we need to make
  • 00:35:21
    this
  • 00:35:22
    right I can feel the relief just as you
  • 00:35:26
    explained it but the other thing that
  • 00:35:29
    was there is I saw an Instagram video
  • 00:35:32
    that you made where you were talking
  • 00:35:33
    about the verdict that was given to you
  • 00:35:37
    and your family and how the opposing
  • 00:35:39
    Council had said you know what sometimes
  • 00:35:42
    things happen in life that are bad and
  • 00:35:44
    we need to pick oursel up and be
  • 00:35:45
    grateful you hinted at it a little bit
  • 00:35:47
    earlier when you were talking about this
  • 00:35:49
    and you said I am grateful because even
  • 00:35:52
    though all these other people didn't
  • 00:35:53
    believe me you had to build your own
  • 00:35:56
    almost underground Network and
  • 00:36:00
    team to not only believe you but show
  • 00:36:05
    you that you weren't Crazy by pointing
  • 00:36:09
    to the evidence that was there just talk
  • 00:36:11
    a little bit about some of those team
  • 00:36:14
    members that were part of helping you
  • 00:36:17
    realize you weren't crazy and there was
  • 00:36:20
    something physiologically going on in
  • 00:36:23
    your body and that your house was slowly
  • 00:36:25
    poisoning you so I believe you mentioned
  • 00:36:27
    the first one who was the original mold
  • 00:36:30
    inspector well the first one was the
  • 00:36:33
    Doctor Who Doctor her name's Gabriella
  • 00:36:36
    picardo Dr picardo in Austin and I was
  • 00:36:40
    actually the first person that she
  • 00:36:41
    diagnosed with mold
  • 00:36:43
    illness I give her so much credit
  • 00:36:46
    because
  • 00:36:48
    she it could have been a host of things
  • 00:36:50
    they were running a battery of tests
  • 00:36:51
    Lyme disease
  • 00:36:53
    parasites heavy metals whatever it is
  • 00:36:56
    they there was a whole host of things
  • 00:36:58
    and she
  • 00:36:59
    included mot toxins and mold on her
  • 00:37:02
    differential diagnosises trying to
  • 00:37:04
    figure out what's going on with me and
  • 00:37:06
    she thought that I had all the symptoms
  • 00:37:09
    so she's my first hero I think she saved
  • 00:37:11
    my life and then Tim Taylor who came
  • 00:37:13
    into my house and sat on my couch
  • 00:37:15
    because I had had a mold inspector
  • 00:37:17
    earlier who came in and looked around
  • 00:37:19
    said looks good didn't do a single test
  • 00:37:21
    he he just was like yeah this actually
  • 00:37:23
    looks like great construction great
  • 00:37:25
    house it's a beautiful house house I
  • 00:37:27
    don't think you're being exposed
  • 00:37:29
    here and Tim Taylor wasn't supposed to
  • 00:37:32
    come that day because I I had cancelled
  • 00:37:34
    the appointment because I already had
  • 00:37:35
    the other guy and he didn't get my
  • 00:37:37
    message that he had been cancelled wow
  • 00:37:40
    so that that was just divine
  • 00:37:42
    intervention because I we never would
  • 00:37:44
    have figured it out we would have
  • 00:37:45
    carried on so Tim
  • 00:37:48
    Taylor um and then
  • 00:37:51
    I I started trying to really figure out
  • 00:37:53
    what was going on with my
  • 00:37:55
    kids and
  • 00:37:57
    there's this woman named um Dr Emily
  • 00:38:00
    Gutierrez who who helped me with their
  • 00:38:05
    care but my
  • 00:38:08
    son he's never been diagnosed with
  • 00:38:11
    autism but he had a lot of
  • 00:38:14
    delays and one of the places that we
  • 00:38:17
    escaped to was Upstate New
  • 00:38:20
    York and I tried to take a time off
  • 00:38:23
    work and I tried to get everybody
  • 00:38:26
    healthy
  • 00:38:28
    and I reached out to this underground
  • 00:38:32
    kind of Network on on Facebook this
  • 00:38:34
    group of families and a woman had posted
  • 00:38:38
    about a kid who had been cured of the
  • 00:38:44
    symptoms that had led that kid to have
  • 00:38:47
    an Autism
  • 00:38:49
    diagnosis her name was Emily
  • 00:38:51
    Rachel and she was my next Lifeline
  • 00:38:56
    because she's the one who told me that
  • 00:38:59
    healing was
  • 00:39:01
    possible and she introduced me to Josh
  • 00:39:04
    Rachel her husband who came in and he's
  • 00:39:07
    a mold inspector and works all over the
  • 00:39:09
    country so he became my next hero and
  • 00:39:12
    then there was an HVAC expert I mean I
  • 00:39:14
    can go on and on all day but when we
  • 00:39:19
    think about bad things happening I tell
  • 00:39:21
    my kids to look for the helpers look for
  • 00:39:24
    the
  • 00:39:25
    helpers and be one if you
  • 00:39:27
    can
  • 00:39:29
    and those were my those were our helpers
  • 00:39:33
    and oh there were so many and they were
  • 00:39:35
    so good they were so good Bob mcke was a
  • 00:39:38
    lawyer in
  • 00:39:39
    Florida again I couldn't find anyone in
  • 00:39:41
    Texas who know anything about this Kevin
  • 00:39:43
    Tzus is a great Texas lawyer but he's
  • 00:39:45
    not a personal injury lawyer by training
  • 00:39:48
    and I paid him hourly um as a friend to
  • 00:39:50
    do this with me um but Bob mcke was the
  • 00:39:54
    only other mold old experienced lawyer
  • 00:39:57
    who took my call and he just consulted
  • 00:40:00
    for free and he just picked up the phone
  • 00:40:02
    when I called whenever it was and he
  • 00:40:03
    would talk to me for an hour about
  • 00:40:05
    whatever was going on in the case and
  • 00:40:08
    ultimately I invited him to join our
  • 00:40:10
    team but there was a long time in there
  • 00:40:12
    where he was just doing it for
  • 00:40:14
    free and um and that's what it was it
  • 00:40:17
    was this Village of people who cared
  • 00:40:19
    about our family and you when this
  • 00:40:22
    happens to you and and toxic exposure
  • 00:40:25
    generally this is my other case
  • 00:40:27
    too you become part of a club that you
  • 00:40:29
    never wanted to
  • 00:40:31
    join but there are people who cannot
  • 00:40:35
    wait to help you and you just have to
  • 00:40:38
    believe that they're there and you have
  • 00:40:39
    to find them and I'm so thankful we
  • 00:40:42
    found ours not only did you guys find
  • 00:40:46
    yours and many of those people you're
  • 00:40:48
    still in touch with some of them you now
  • 00:40:49
    work with as you mentioned but you made
  • 00:40:53
    a commitment to pay it forward and be
  • 00:40:55
    that person for other families give us
  • 00:40:58
    the big picture on the current case that
  • 00:41:02
    you're going through where no longer is
  • 00:41:06
    it just one
  • 00:41:08
    Builder uh one HVAC company but it's
  • 00:41:11
    actually you versus the
  • 00:41:15
    government I was working for doj when I
  • 00:41:17
    started this Law Firm Department of
  • 00:41:19
    Justice the Department of Justice I left
  • 00:41:21
    the Department of Justice where I was
  • 00:41:23
    doing personal injury defense for the
  • 00:41:24
    United States to start this law firm and
  • 00:41:27
    I called it just well I had one paralal
  • 00:41:31
    it was just Pam and me I told her I
  • 00:41:33
    could pay her for a year that was that
  • 00:41:35
    was as as much as I could do right and
  • 00:41:38
    we didn't know where our first case was
  • 00:41:40
    going to come from but the week after we
  • 00:41:43
    launched our little website CNBC did a
  • 00:41:46
    story on my family that we had not
  • 00:41:49
    planted by the way that was just they
  • 00:41:50
    had reached out to us and but the story
  • 00:41:54
    linked to my website and I got a
  • 00:41:57
    thousand calls in two weeks incredible
  • 00:41:59
    because there is such a need for this
  • 00:42:02
    kind of Law and there were so many
  • 00:42:04
    others who like me were just desperate
  • 00:42:07
    for help and one of those calls was from
  • 00:42:09
    Hawaii and they said I've been poisoned
  • 00:42:12
    can you help and I had just been with
  • 00:42:14
    some military families advocating to
  • 00:42:15
    Congress about military housing so I
  • 00:42:18
    knew what had happened in Hawaii the
  • 00:42:20
    government had an enti a huge the
  • 00:42:23
    government had a huge jet fuel blast
  • 00:42:27
    the jet fuel contaminated the water
  • 00:42:30
    system the government
  • 00:42:32
    knew that it had gotten into the water
  • 00:42:34
    they had hundreds of reports of the fuel
  • 00:42:36
    was in the water and they told people
  • 00:42:40
    that the water was safe they issued a
  • 00:42:43
    press release that there's no indication
  • 00:42:45
    the water was not safe so people
  • 00:42:47
    continued to use this contaminated water
  • 00:42:49
    they got very sick so I fly over to
  • 00:42:52
    Hawaii I
  • 00:42:54
    mean I had d I had my personal credit
  • 00:42:57
    card and my cowboy boots I mean we had
  • 00:43:00
    nothing right and I held my first town
  • 00:43:04
    hall and I got on social media and I
  • 00:43:07
    started speaking out about what was
  • 00:43:09
    happening because I saw it in real time
  • 00:43:11
    the government was saying people weren't
  • 00:43:13
    sick and this was not a problem it was
  • 00:43:15
    just in and out of people's bodies and
  • 00:43:16
    don't worry it's just a little jet fuel
  • 00:43:19
    and I was seeing sick people and I
  • 00:43:22
    recognized them because that was me I
  • 00:43:25
    was still on my own Rec recovery Journey
  • 00:43:27
    so I passed them the mic and I would
  • 00:43:29
    hold these town halls and I would invite
  • 00:43:31
    the media and I would broadcast them
  • 00:43:34
    publicly and I'd say you know come and
  • 00:43:37
    listen to their stories these people are
  • 00:43:39
    sick this is real and there was a group
  • 00:43:42
    of people in Hawaii who said we are
  • 00:43:44
    going to make this stop never again and
  • 00:43:48
    we filed what I believe to be the first
  • 00:43:50
    successful environmental toxin case
  • 00:43:54
    against the United States um um and the
  • 00:43:56
    government has now admitted
  • 00:43:58
    liability and we're fighting about
  • 00:44:00
    damages right now this little law
  • 00:44:04
    firm with me and one paralal has now
  • 00:44:07
    grown to 18 and we represent
  • 00:44:12
    7,500 people who were poisoned by the
  • 00:44:14
    United States of
  • 00:44:16
    America just in this one case this one
  • 00:44:20
    jet fuel explosion incident this one
  • 00:44:23
    case this one case yeah and these are
  • 00:44:26
    people who are saying never again
  • 00:44:29
    because just like me they're not just
  • 00:44:31
    doing it for their own families they're
  • 00:44:33
    doing it for all the other families
  • 00:44:34
    they're doing it for all the other
  • 00:44:37
    people who are on Navy water lines all
  • 00:44:40
    the other people who live in military
  • 00:44:41
    housing they're saying we we cannot
  • 00:44:44
    poison our own people we cannot be
  • 00:44:47
    Mission ready if we're sick we have to
  • 00:44:50
    enforce the safety rules in this country
  • 00:44:52
    and the only way you do that is or
  • 00:44:55
    should say one of the ways you do that
  • 00:44:58
    is the justice
  • 00:45:00
    system and that's what we're doing and
  • 00:45:03
    we're we're going to change the system
  • 00:45:06
    you talked about how your own health was
  • 00:45:08
    impacted by exposure to environmental
  • 00:45:10
    toxins specifically
  • 00:45:11
    mold are there stories that came back to
  • 00:45:14
    you about these families and what was
  • 00:45:17
    happening with them with this exposure
  • 00:45:19
    to the contaminated water that you had
  • 00:45:21
    mentioned that the government knew that
  • 00:45:23
    they were exposed to from this jet fuel
  • 00:45:25
    blast
  • 00:45:26
    we talked earlier about the cyto kind
  • 00:45:28
    storm that happens when you're exposed
  • 00:45:30
    to toxins and that
  • 00:45:35
    happens really no matter what the toxin
  • 00:45:38
    is so yes it's a little bit different if
  • 00:45:41
    it's jet fuel um or if it's Roundup or
  • 00:45:46
    whatever it is there's slightly
  • 00:45:47
    different slight differences but
  • 00:45:49
    ultimately it's that same chronic
  • 00:45:52
    systemic inflammation that occurs and
  • 00:45:55
    and it attacks the brain so I saw
  • 00:45:58
    clients who had exactly the same
  • 00:46:00
    symptoms that I had the brain fog the
  • 00:46:03
    feeling like they had been hit by a
  • 00:46:05
    truck the confusion the attention
  • 00:46:08
    challenges the vestibular dysfunction
  • 00:46:11
    was a big one me short-term memory loss
  • 00:46:15
    um and then of
  • 00:46:16
    course the GI system right because they
  • 00:46:20
    ingested the jet fuel unlike toxic
  • 00:46:23
    exposure for toxic mold you you you
  • 00:46:26
    smell it and of course you get dermal
  • 00:46:29
    exposure and everything but in this case
  • 00:46:32
    they
  • 00:46:32
    ingested
  • 00:46:34
    fuel so their esophagus and their GI
  • 00:46:38
    system has been wrecked in many cases
  • 00:46:41
    and then they had babies with Burns
  • 00:46:45
    there
  • 00:46:46
    were there were Military Officers on
  • 00:46:49
    November 28th of 2021 texting pictures
  • 00:46:54
    of babies with
  • 00:46:56
    severe burns or
  • 00:46:58
    rashes
  • 00:47:00
    and receiving hundreds of reports of
  • 00:47:04
    fuel in the water people called from all
  • 00:47:06
    over the water
  • 00:47:07
    line and yet those same people issued
  • 00:47:11
    the press release that said there's no
  • 00:47:13
    indication the water is not
  • 00:47:15
    safe so there were they knew that there
  • 00:47:18
    were babies that were affected and yet
  • 00:47:21
    they had the audacity to say publicly
  • 00:47:24
    don't worry pure water is fine there is
  • 00:47:27
    no indication it's not safe it's it's
  • 00:47:31
    outrageous and we have to hold them
  • 00:47:34
    accountable and we can't continue to
  • 00:47:37
    Gaslight our
  • 00:47:38
    people if you uh watch the news or the
  • 00:47:42
    tweets from Pol politicians and
  • 00:47:46
    legislators you would feel that there's
  • 00:47:49
    nothing more patriotic than having the
  • 00:47:51
    backs of our military and military
  • 00:47:54
    families
  • 00:47:57
    what circumstances led to the
  • 00:47:59
    situation that the government would say
  • 00:48:04
    knowing that it wasn't true that the
  • 00:48:06
    water was
  • 00:48:08
    safe every institution wants to protect
  • 00:48:11
    itself you saw that with the insurance
  • 00:48:13
    companies they they go into
  • 00:48:15
    self-protective mode and the same was
  • 00:48:18
    true with the government they wanted to
  • 00:48:20
    protect this military asset to them the
  • 00:48:22
    asset of the jet fuel tanks this facil
  • 00:48:25
    called Red Hill was more important than
  • 00:48:28
    the people just that's the answer they
  • 00:48:32
    had to protect itself the government had
  • 00:48:34
    to protect itself the Navy had to
  • 00:48:36
    protect itself they didn't want people
  • 00:48:39
    to know that there had been this huge
  • 00:48:41
    blast which was by the way because of
  • 00:48:43
    their own negligence because of their
  • 00:48:46
    own failures they wanted to protect
  • 00:48:48
    their own reputations and they wanted to
  • 00:48:50
    protect the asset and
  • 00:48:53
    ultimately asset over people
  • 00:48:56
    is what it came down
  • 00:48:57
    to and it I I've had the benefit the
  • 00:49:01
    pleasure really of deposing all these
  • 00:49:03
    government officers many of them and and
  • 00:49:07
    deposing I've had the the pleasure and
  • 00:49:10
    benefit of
  • 00:49:12
    deposing military
  • 00:49:15
    doctors and good people who work for the
  • 00:49:19
    government and if you ask them do you
  • 00:49:22
    agree that if the government provides
  • 00:49:25
    water it must provide Safe Water they'
  • 00:49:28
    all of course of course of course yes do
  • 00:49:31
    you agree that if the government
  • 00:49:32
    contaminates the water which should
  • 00:49:35
    never do see the first
  • 00:49:36
    rule it must let you know right away
  • 00:49:39
    must let us know right away to protect
  • 00:49:42
    all of us from Mayhem illness cancer
  • 00:49:45
    death every one of them of
  • 00:49:49
    course well the government was providing
  • 00:49:52
    the water there was fuel in the water
  • 00:49:55
    the government government contaminated
  • 00:49:56
    the water and then didn't tell people
  • 00:49:59
    not to use
  • 00:50:01
    it this case is not rocket science it's
  • 00:50:05
    and and for that reason it's it's such a
  • 00:50:08
    blessing to be a part of
  • 00:50:11
    um it's a pretty simple case the
  • 00:50:14
    government contaminated the water people
  • 00:50:17
    used enough water to get
  • 00:50:19
    sick the government didn't tell them not
  • 00:50:21
    to use it because the government was
  • 00:50:22
    protecting
  • 00:50:24
    itself it's it's not hard and now the
  • 00:50:28
    government what needs to make it right
  • 00:50:30
    and the case is really about giving the
  • 00:50:33
    government the opportunity to make it
  • 00:50:35
    right so I'm a patriot I'm I'm patriotic
  • 00:50:39
    I think that this is
  • 00:50:41
    actually what the law is for and what
  • 00:50:44
    this is what the tort
  • 00:50:46
    law is for for the federal tort claims
  • 00:50:49
    act that allows you to bring cases
  • 00:50:51
    against the United
  • 00:50:53
    States how much does the as ECT of it's
  • 00:50:57
    not my job play
  • 00:51:01
    into
  • 00:51:03
    the component that you already mentioned
  • 00:51:05
    which is a Big Driver which
  • 00:51:07
    is we need to make sure we don't get
  • 00:51:09
    into trouble we need to protect the
  • 00:51:11
    asset how much of lack of responsibility
  • 00:51:15
    is
  • 00:51:17
    hey that's not our job that was somebody
  • 00:51:19
    else's job does that play into this at
  • 00:51:22
    all absolutely because every government
  • 00:51:25
    off officer wants to say it was somebody
  • 00:51:26
    else's job somebody else had the
  • 00:51:29
    obligation to tell the
  • 00:51:31
    people somebody else had the obligation
  • 00:51:34
    to go check to see if this huge blast
  • 00:51:37
    that leaked for 36 hours got into the
  • 00:51:39
    water
  • 00:51:40
    source somebody else had the O
  • 00:51:43
    opportunity or the obligation to shut
  • 00:51:45
    down the water how easy would that have
  • 00:51:48
    been there was this huge blast on
  • 00:51:50
    November 20th 36 hours of spew in jet
  • 00:51:57
    fuel how easy would it have been to just
  • 00:51:59
    turn off the water source just protect
  • 00:52:02
    the water from that fuel this is not
  • 00:52:05
    hard people and they they didn't do it
  • 00:52:08
    because they didn't want to admit that
  • 00:52:09
    it
  • 00:52:10
    happened so it's it's very upsetting
  • 00:52:14
    it's very upsetting and what's very
  • 00:52:17
    upsetting now is that the government is
  • 00:52:18
    still gaslighting people because the
  • 00:52:21
    government is still saying okay we we we
  • 00:52:23
    take responsibility for what happened
  • 00:52:26
    there was a
  • 00:52:27
    spill it got into the
  • 00:52:30
    water but in the case itself the
  • 00:52:33
    government lawyers are claiming that
  • 00:52:35
    there wasn't even enough fuel to make
  • 00:52:37
    people sick in the short
  • 00:52:41
    term that's
  • 00:52:43
    insane 4600 people had medical
  • 00:52:46
    encounters before the government
  • 00:52:48
    admitted that the water line was
  • 00:52:50
    contaminated 4600
  • 00:52:53
    people clearly it caused short-term harm
  • 00:52:56
    that and and and the government is
  • 00:52:58
    making the same claim that this was just
  • 00:53:00
    a somatic response people had a somatic
  • 00:53:03
    response to maybe the fuel
  • 00:53:07
    smell I show them the picture of the
  • 00:53:11
    baby is are those Baby Burns a somatic
  • 00:53:16
    response so this is gaslighting at the
  • 00:53:18
    highest levels and it
  • 00:53:20
    continues and that's what's so upsetting
  • 00:53:23
    because when when are we going to start
  • 00:53:26
    to deal with the reality of what
  • 00:53:28
    happened at Red Hill when are you going
  • 00:53:31
    to acknowledge what
  • 00:53:33
    happened the harm when are you going to
  • 00:53:36
    acknowledge the harm what happened at
  • 00:53:38
    Red Hill is a representation of a much
  • 00:53:40
    bigger
  • 00:53:42
    problem that I'd love for you to talk
  • 00:53:46
    about these may seem like isolated
  • 00:53:49
    incidents both your own home and we
  • 00:53:51
    mentioned that millions of homes
  • 00:53:56
    especially under the new building
  • 00:53:57
    standards that are highly energy
  • 00:54:00
    efficient that are keeping you in a
  • 00:54:03
    energy efficient toxic
  • 00:54:06
    chamber and again based on the World
  • 00:54:08
    Health organization's own estimates
  • 00:54:10
    which are on the conservative side that
  • 00:54:12
    onethird of buildings have some form of
  • 00:54:15
    toxic mold inside of them or mold that
  • 00:54:18
    can be problematic to Health in that
  • 00:54:21
    same way there are also potentially
  • 00:54:24
    other military bases and housing
  • 00:54:27
    bases that have their own challenges can
  • 00:54:31
    you talk a little bit about this case
  • 00:54:33
    and how it's
  • 00:54:36
    really a canary in the coal mine of
  • 00:54:39
    what's going on out there well the
  • 00:54:41
    secretary of defense was asked about
  • 00:54:44
    mold and housing you know what he
  • 00:54:48
    said I don't have a mold problem I have
  • 00:54:51
    a soldier problem he blamed it on the
  • 00:54:54
    people who are
  • 00:54:56
    sick so this is coming from the very
  • 00:55:00
    very
  • 00:55:01
    top and there's this sense of
  • 00:55:06
    well these people are a little bit
  • 00:55:09
    crazy really that that's what it is it's
  • 00:55:12
    these people are just making a a
  • 00:55:15
    mountain out of a mole hill they're
  • 00:55:21
    somatic we cannot be Mission ready in
  • 00:55:24
    this country
  • 00:55:27
    if our military and our military
  • 00:55:28
    families are
  • 00:55:32
    sick we have a war in Israel right now
  • 00:55:36
    the Middle East is very we're on the
  • 00:55:39
    precipice
  • 00:55:41
    right we have to have a fit and healthy
  • 00:55:48
    military and they cannot be fit and
  • 00:55:50
    healthy if we are poisoning them this is
  • 00:55:52
    not rocket science they need at the
  • 00:55:55
    minimum clean air and clean
  • 00:55:58
    water that is a basic human right for
  • 00:56:00
    all of us but it's a especially
  • 00:56:03
    essential for our military and our
  • 00:56:05
    military families and it's a problem on
  • 00:56:08
    every military base either the water or
  • 00:56:11
    the heir or both and the military
  • 00:56:15
    leadership turns a blind eye because
  • 00:56:19
    they're committed to just saying this is
  • 00:56:20
    just a somatic
  • 00:56:22
    problem it's deeply upsetting and it's
  • 00:56:25
    gaslighting it's gaslighting but what I
  • 00:56:28
    am trying to
  • 00:56:29
    do is point to the
  • 00:56:31
    facts
  • 00:56:33
    and in Hawaii at the time I would hold
  • 00:56:37
    these town halls and I'd invite the
  • 00:56:38
    media and I'd pass the mic to my clients
  • 00:56:42
    hear from them
  • 00:56:43
    directly because they can no longer be
  • 00:56:47
    silenced and that's what we need to
  • 00:56:50
    continue to
  • 00:56:51
    do tell the stories but also provide the
  • 00:56:57
    actual evidence in the medical
  • 00:56:59
    literature and for mold in particular I
  • 00:57:02
    went to PubMed
  • 00:57:04
    right there are 2022 2021 2023 I'm sure
  • 00:57:09
    they're going to be 2024
  • 00:57:11
    peer-reviewed articles about the dangers
  • 00:57:15
    of toxic mold and toxic water and we
  • 00:57:19
    have to we have to point to them and
  • 00:57:22
    show government leadership the facts and
  • 00:57:26
    say this is what is happening
  • 00:57:28
    scientifically to people this is not
  • 00:57:30
    this is not somatic this is
  • 00:57:34
    real after uh MSNBC did that story on
  • 00:57:37
    your family you had mentioned you got a
  • 00:57:38
    call and one of those calls LED you to
  • 00:57:41
    be an advocate and represent the
  • 00:57:44
    families that are part of this case in
  • 00:57:47
    Hawaii since that time period you guys
  • 00:57:50
    have expanded the type of cases that
  • 00:57:52
    you're going to be involved in and
  • 00:57:55
    you're spreading the word and part of
  • 00:57:56
    that is coming on this podcast and
  • 00:57:58
    telling your
  • 00:57:59
    story which is exciting for me because
  • 00:58:01
    so many families truly feel like there's
  • 00:58:03
    no hope and they don't know who to turn
  • 00:58:05
    to they don't know what resources are
  • 00:58:07
    out there for them and they end up
  • 00:58:10
    suffering in silence and sort of giving
  • 00:58:12
    up on having anybody be accountable if
  • 00:58:13
    there was somebody to be
  • 00:58:15
    accountable give us an idea just big
  • 00:58:18
    picture of some of the other
  • 00:58:20
    areas that you guys will be
  • 00:58:23
    tackling I want to help anyone
  • 00:58:28
    who is sick because somebody else made
  • 00:58:32
    them sick right somebody else made a
  • 00:58:35
    choice that led to and and mostly
  • 00:58:40
    families to this family becoming sick
  • 00:58:42
    right and that can be that is mostly
  • 00:58:45
    toxic air and toxic
  • 00:58:47
    water but it can be any toxic
  • 00:58:51
    substance it can be red food food die
  • 00:58:55
    right I I want us to hold the companies
  • 00:59:01
    accountable for poisoning our
  • 00:59:03
    bodies whatever that
  • 00:59:06
    is and what we're finding when you dig
  • 00:59:09
    in is that these companies
  • 00:59:13
    know almost always they know whether
  • 00:59:16
    it's the government or the whoever it is
  • 00:59:19
    whoever the wrongdoer is whether it's a
  • 00:59:21
    company or the government they know what
  • 00:59:23
    they're doing
  • 00:59:26
    and we need to say as a
  • 00:59:31
    society no
  • 00:59:33
    more you cannot get away with it anymore
  • 00:59:37
    you cannot make this financial calculus
  • 00:59:39
    that you're just going to do it anyway
  • 00:59:41
    because we're going to be there and
  • 00:59:44
    we're going to be there this is and this
  • 00:59:46
    is how my firm is changing it okay in
  • 00:59:48
    the in the day you would tell clients
  • 00:59:51
    don't go on social media you know don't
  • 00:59:53
    be careful what you say don't put
  • 00:59:55
    yourself out there I'm like here's a mic
  • 00:59:58
    here's here's a connection to Fox News
  • 01:00:02
    here's you know CNBC I I want my clients
  • 01:00:05
    to tell their stories because that's one
  • 01:00:08
    way we bring
  • 01:00:09
    accountability that's why I believe
  • 01:00:13
    that's why the Navy is now defueling
  • 01:00:15
    that Red Hill facility
  • 01:00:18
    because the public the the public got
  • 01:00:22
    involved so we have to fight these
  • 01:00:24
    things in court and we have to find
  • 01:00:26
    fight them in public and we have to
  • 01:00:29
    fight them on social and when we do all
  • 01:00:31
    those things at once I think we will
  • 01:00:33
    bring real change and that's what we're
  • 01:00:35
    about but if you're if you're listening
  • 01:00:38
    and you're affected by really
  • 01:00:41
    anything we're committed to answering
  • 01:00:43
    your call because no one returned my
  • 01:00:46
    call so we we have this philosophy that
  • 01:00:50
    we will return your call no matter what
  • 01:00:52
    no matter where you are um no matter
  • 01:00:54
    what your fa faced with We Will We Will
  • 01:00:57
    point to resources if we can help we
  • 01:00:59
    will refer to other lawyers if we can we
  • 01:01:01
    want to raise up a network an army of
  • 01:01:05
    lawyers to take these cases for people
  • 01:01:07
    who have been harmed by environmental
  • 01:01:08
    toxins or others and we we want to
  • 01:01:13
    help well Christina even coming on this
  • 01:01:16
    podcast and sharing your
  • 01:01:18
    story and putting yourself out there and
  • 01:01:21
    talking about what you and your family
  • 01:01:23
    have gone through
  • 01:01:25
    is again a big help for so many people
  • 01:01:27
    who are listening I can't tell you how
  • 01:01:30
    many people I don't I personally know
  • 01:01:32
    that never felt that they had anywhere
  • 01:01:34
    to turn to and maybe for a combination
  • 01:01:36
    of different reasons their case may not
  • 01:01:39
    be the right fit their statue of
  • 01:01:41
    limitations there's a lot of different
  • 01:01:42
    reasons why somebody's case may not be a
  • 01:01:46
    fit right now but
  • 01:01:47
    knowing that there's a firm like yours
  • 01:01:52
    and that a lawyer like you exists who's
  • 01:01:55
    gone through this and been on the
  • 01:01:56
    patient side of things I can only
  • 01:01:58
    imagine that brings so many individuals
  • 01:02:02
    hope I would love for you to share any
  • 01:02:05
    lasting thoughts you want to leave our
  • 01:02:07
    audience with as well as uh how they can
  • 01:02:09
    be in touch with you on this journey of
  • 01:02:12
    you being an advocate for families out
  • 01:02:14
    there I want to talk to your listeners
  • 01:02:17
    who are sick right
  • 01:02:18
    now and are in an environment that they
  • 01:02:22
    know is toxic
  • 01:02:28
    whatever you
  • 01:02:31
    do get
  • 01:02:33
    out because the number one thing that
  • 01:02:35
    you can do for your health is to get out
  • 01:02:37
    of the
  • 01:02:38
    contamination and I have a client who
  • 01:02:41
    did not leave the house I told her to
  • 01:02:42
    leave and she died at the age of 31 in
  • 01:02:45
    the house I told her to leave
  • 01:02:47
    environmental toxins are very dangerous
  • 01:02:49
    and they can kill you ultimately so do
  • 01:02:52
    not subject yourself or your family to
  • 01:02:54
    talk toxic water or toxic
  • 01:02:56
    air it will slowly kill you or it'll
  • 01:02:59
    leave you close to
  • 01:03:01
    De and my prayer for you if you're in
  • 01:03:05
    that place is that you would get out
  • 01:03:08
    that you would get help that you would
  • 01:03:10
    find your helpers and that you would get
  • 01:03:12
    well and that a year from
  • 01:03:15
    now you would be well enough to help
  • 01:03:19
    somebody
  • 01:03:20
    else and it's by helping somebody else
  • 01:03:25
    that our creator redeems our
  • 01:03:29
    stories and I have the privilege of
  • 01:03:32
    helping others and my Creator is
  • 01:03:35
    redeeming our family
  • 01:03:37
    story
  • 01:03:40
    through the work that we can do
  • 01:03:42
    now so that's really the message that I
  • 01:03:45
    want to leave get out of
  • 01:03:48
    contamination find your
  • 01:03:50
    helpers and get well enough to help
  • 01:03:53
    others m
  • 01:03:55
    a powerful reminder you are super active
  • 01:03:59
    on social
  • 01:04:00
    media how can people stay in touch with
  • 01:04:03
    you follow along the journey follow the
  • 01:04:06
    case that's happening in Hawaii follow
  • 01:04:08
    along the other cases that you'll
  • 01:04:09
    represent and also how can they get in
  • 01:04:12
    touch with the law firm if they
  • 01:04:16
    feel they might have a case that they
  • 01:04:19
    want you guys to take a look at our firm
  • 01:04:21
    is at well. law that's our website and
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    our social handle is justwell law on
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    um follow me I want to be in touch I
  • 01:04:35
    want to know other survivors I want to
  • 01:04:38
    lift one another up I want to you know
  • 01:04:41
    slowly redeem these stories so that we
  • 01:04:46
    change the environment um and people
  • 01:04:49
    become well well I know you're on your
  • 01:04:51
    way to Hawaii and I I wish you all the
  • 01:04:55
    best in this case I want to say that it
  • 01:04:57
    was a pleasure and honor for us to get a
  • 01:04:58
    chance to meet in
  • 01:05:00
    person and to really truly hear your
  • 01:05:03
    story and present it to my audience that
  • 01:05:05
    I know is cheering for you and all the
  • 01:05:07
    families that you represent thank
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