Unilever | H1 2024 | Results | Webcast & Q&A
Summary
TLDRThis video presents Unilever's half-year financial results, highlighting a 4.1% sales growth driven by increased volumes, particularly from power brands. The underlying operating profit saw a significant rise of 17.1% due to strategic cost management and gross margin expansions, which grew by 420 basis points. Regions such as North America and Latin America contributed positively, with particular growth from personal care and home care product groups. Sustainability remained a priority, with efforts in climate change, plastic reduction, regenerative agriculture, and promoting suppliers aligned with living wage commitments. Unilever also discussed separating the ice cream business to enhance productivity. The outlook for the rest of the year remains optimistic, with expected sales growth between 3 to 5%, largely volume-led. The company emphasizes further investment in their power brands, improving competitiveness, and focusing on strategic markets and products. Questions from investors highlighted concerns and ambitions around various sectors and geographic performances.
Takeaways
- π Unilever achieved 4.1% sales growth in the first half driven by volume increases.
- π‘ Underlying operating profit rose by 17.1%, aided by cost control and margin expansion.
- π Sustainability remains a focus with significant initiatives in climate and plastic reduction.
- π₯ Power brands such as those in personal care and home care lead growth.
- π¨ Plans to separate the ice cream business to boost productivity are underway.
- π Strong performance in North America and Latin America supports growth outlook.
- βοΈ Margin expansions of 420 basis points provide room for increased brand investments.
- π Strategic focus remains on competitiveness and investment in key categories.
- π± Initiatives are tracking well towards ambitious sustainability goals.
- π The outlook for the year is positive, targeting 3-5% sales growth mainly through volume.
Timeline
- 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
In the introduction, an overview of the presentation's structure is provided. The focus is on achieving high-quality sales growth and expanding gross margin, facilitating increased brand investment. Positive sales growth and volume are highlighted, alongside a strong showing from key brands. Successful cost control and profitability improvement are noted, alongside sustainability progress in climate, plastics, nature, and livelihoods. The separation of ice cream and productivity improvement efforts are underway, highlighting ongoing areas for attention such as competitiveness.
- 00:05:00 - 00:10:00
The focus shifts to deeper financial analysis. Sales growth and volume improvement continue into the second quarter, supported by various business groups. Price growth has slowed due to changes in the commodity cycle. Personal Care and Health & Wellbeing show strong results, though some market challenges like deflation in India are noted. There's a focus on innovation and market expansion, though certain areas, such as ice cream, have underperformed due to market conditions in regions like Europe and China.
- 00:10:00 - 00:15:00
Further detailed analysis across different business segments and geographic regions is provided. Positive growth is noted in developed markets, with significant volume growth in Latin America. In Asia Pacific, sequential improvements are merit attention, though challenges in Indonesia persist. Africa and Middle East regions showcase strong performance. Overall, strong performance in key markets is highlighted, while the impact on turnover and operating profit is dissected with a focus on margin expansion and strategic investments.
- 00:15:00 - 00:20:00
Unilever's financial strategies and the impacts of acquisitions and currency fluctuations are detailed, alongside net finance cost and tax challenges. The outlook for the year remains conservative, with an emphasis on sales growth between 3-5%, mainly led by volume. Steps to achieve operating margin targets are shared, including insights into the Growth Action Plan, showcasing the strategic shifts being implemented across the organization to maintain and improve competitive positioning.
- 00:20:00 - 00:25:00
The Growth Action Plan's nine months of implementation is discussed, focusing on faster growth, a more streamlined business, and embedding a performance culture. Investments in power brands and the scaling of innovation are key. The discussion moves to 'unmissable superiority' across product elements and scaling Innovations, pointing towards technological advancements like biotechnology. The emphasis is on creating high growth and quality through innovative platforms and operational changes to support structural and cultural shifts.
- 00:25:00 - 00:30:00
Efforts to embed productivity improvements are deliberated, with consultations ongoing. The separation of ice cream is part of long-term strategic goals aiming to simplify operations and enhance accountability. The benefits of the Growth Action Plan are underscored, including the ongoing transformation into a long-term, high-performing organization. A recap of successes and ongoing efforts is shared, highlighting both completed and upcoming measures to support long-term business transformation.
- 00:30:00 - 00:35:00
The Q&A session opens with questions regarding growth prospects and margin expectations. Management clarifies the volume-led growth strategy, with no major changes anticipated in its price-volume mix. Further details reveal a focus on sustaining margin improvement despite competitive pressures. The plan's reliance on cost efficiencies and strategic marketing investments is reiterated, along with expectations for cautious second-half execution due to potential market challenges.
- 00:35:00 - 00:40:00
The discussion shifts towards the U.S. beauty market and marketing investment impacts. The beauty market slowdown is noted, though seen as non-structural, with targeted strategies in place. Insights into the market share strategy and recent performance trends reflect confidence in long-term improvement. The sector's competitiveness is a focal point, as is monitoring market share improvements. Management sets realistic expectations around ongoing challenges and the trajectory of market recoveries.
- 00:40:00 - 00:45:00
In response to inquiries about emerging markets and strategic focus, management reiterates the long-term attractiveness of these regions due to population growth and the emergence of a middle class. Despite external factors, investment in North America continues, particularly in scalable brands. The focus on leveraging geographical strengths ensures the company's robust positioning, underscoring the strategic importance of both developed and emerging markets for consistent growth.
- 00:45:00 - 00:50:00
The conversation continues with a spotlight on innovation and productivity initiatives. There is emphasis on portfolio renewal through innovation, alongside achieving operational efficiency across supply chain structures. Long-term capacity utilization and resource allocation strategies are aligned with gross margin expansion goals. These efforts are aimed at enhancing competitive offerings and scaling key innovations, driving sustainability and overall business health.
- 00:50:00 - 00:55:00
Management addresses the potential of new leadership in the nutrition sector and ongoing strategies in the ice cream business. Operational improvements in ice cream are noted, as are geographical challenges like those in China. Action plans to enhance product portfolio and market position are highlighted. Strategic focus on nutrition includes core brand growth and market responsiveness, with the ongoing transformation of these sectors seen as a linchpin for future stability and success.
- 00:55:00 - 01:00:00
Economic conditions affecting pricing and consumer behavior are discussed, with forward-looking insights into maintaining competitive pricing structures. The outlook for health and well-being and prestige products remains positive, supported by international market scaling strategies. Emphasis on continued investment in key growth engines aligns with ambitions to retain strong market positions. The reflection on consumer trends emphasizes adaptability amidst changing market dynamics.
- 01:00:00 - 01:08:41
The closing session reviews the Q&A highlights and aligns them with growth strategies, emphasizing structural transformations to propel performance. The need for adaptable business models to withstand external pressures is key. Continued focus on core brands, strategic priorities, and operational efficiency are presented as critical pathways to sustained profitability and growth. The session concludes with an assurance of ongoing updates and progress, reinforcing commitment to stakeholders.
Mind Map
Video Q&A
What was Unilever's sales growth in the first half?
Unilever's sales growth in the first half was 4.1%.
Did Unilever experience volume growth?
Yes, Unilever had a volume growth of 2.6% in the second quarter.
How much did Unilever's underlying operating profit increase?
Unilever's underlying operating profit increased by 17.1%.
What sustainability initiatives did Unilever pursue?
Unilever focused on initiatives related to climate, plastics, nature, and livelihoods.
What are Unilever's plans for its ice cream business?
Unilever plans to separate its ice cream business and improve productivity.
How did Unilever's personal care segment perform?
Unilever's personal care segment grew by 5.6% with a balance between volume and price growth.
What regions saw strong performance for Unilever?
Developed markets like North America and Latin America saw strong growth.
What was the impact of commodity prices on Unilever's performance?
Commodity prices' deflation led to adjusted pricing, particularly in home care products.
What are Unilever's future growth expectations?
Unilever expects to achieve 3 to 5% growth primarily driven by volume.
What strategic shifts does Unilever focus on?
Unilever focuses on enhancing the performance of power brands and investing more in key business areas.
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- 00:00:11good morning and welcome to UNI lever's
- 00:00:13half one results announcement we expect
- 00:00:15prepared remarks today to take about 25
- 00:00:18minutes leaving around 30 minutes for
- 00:00:20Q&A all of today's webcast is available
- 00:00:23live transcribed on the screen and in a
- 00:00:26moment I will hand over to Fernando to
- 00:00:28take you through the details of the
- 00:00:29results
- 00:00:30I will then return to give a brief
- 00:00:32update on the Growth Action Plan and
- 00:00:34some of our key priorities as we move
- 00:00:36into the second half of the year after
- 00:00:39that we will take
- 00:00:40questions first though let me set out
- 00:00:43some of the performance highlights from
- 00:00:45the first half as I see
- 00:00:47them our Focus has been and remains on
- 00:00:50delivering high quality sales growth and
- 00:00:52expanding gross margin and thereby
- 00:00:55enabling a step up in investment behind
- 00:00:57our
- 00:00:58brands with that in mind we made
- 00:01:00progress over the first half our
- 00:01:03underlying sales grew
- 00:01:054.1% volume growth was broad-based and
- 00:01:08accelerated to 2.6% with four or five
- 00:01:11business groups delivering positive
- 00:01:13volumes in Quarter
- 00:01:15Two growth was led by our power brands
- 00:01:18with underlying sales growth of 5.7% and
- 00:01:22volumes up
- 00:01:234% focusing on these 30 Brands is a core
- 00:01:27part of our plans and so we are
- 00:01:29encouraged Ed by the progress
- 00:01:31here gross margin expansion was strong
- 00:01:35up 420 basis points to
- 00:01:3845.7% we recorded lower material costs
- 00:01:41which helped but we are also on track to
- 00:01:44achieve net cost productivity through
- 00:01:46tight cost control in our
- 00:01:48operations both these impacts supported
- 00:01:51the gross margin development in the
- 00:01:53first
- 00:01:54half this allowed for nearly 700 million
- 00:01:57euro in extra brand and marketing
- 00:01:59investment which went behind an
- 00:02:01increasingly strong and focused
- 00:02:03Innovation
- 00:02:04program gross margin expansion also
- 00:02:07resulted in accelerated profit growth
- 00:02:10underlying operating profit increased
- 00:02:1217.1% to 6.1 billion with underlying
- 00:02:16operating margin up 250 basis points to
- 00:02:2119.6% over the last quarter we have
- 00:02:23continue to implement our Growth Action
- 00:02:25Plan at PACE as well as stepping up
- 00:02:28financial performance
- 00:02:30the plan also incorporates
- 00:02:32sustainability leadership in our four
- 00:02:34priority areas climate Plastics nature
- 00:02:37and livelihoods and we made progress
- 00:02:40against all of these in the first half
- 00:02:43on climate our scope three emissions
- 00:02:45targets for 2030 were validated by the
- 00:02:48science-based targets initiative or sbti
- 00:02:51and we are making steady progress
- 00:02:53towards delivery on nature a series of
- 00:02:57newly agreed regenerative agriculture
- 00:02:59projects is expected to bring an
- 00:03:01incremental hectarage of 335,000 this
- 00:03:05year keeping us on track towards our
- 00:03:08goal of 1 million
- 00:03:10hectares on Plastics working with us Aid
- 00:03:14we were behind the launch of a new
- 00:03:16public private collaboration the circle
- 00:03:18Alliance to scale solutions for reducing
- 00:03:22Plastics and tackling
- 00:03:24waste and on livelihoods over 20% of our
- 00:03:28procurement spend is is now with
- 00:03:30suppliers who have signed our living
- 00:03:32wage pledge putting us on track to reach
- 00:03:3650% by
- 00:03:3820126 we have also been working to
- 00:03:40progress the two important announcements
- 00:03:42we made in March separating ice cream
- 00:03:46and improving our productivity there is
- 00:03:48lots to do but the simple message today
- 00:03:51is we are on track with
- 00:03:54both as we go through the presentation
- 00:03:57we will review the numbers for the first
- 00:03:58half and progress against our priorities
- 00:04:01in more
- 00:04:02detail and whilst I do believe we have
- 00:04:05made progress against our stated
- 00:04:07Ambitions I am the first to acknowledge
- 00:04:10that we still have a lot to do to
- 00:04:12implement the changes that are needed to
- 00:04:14achieve a level of consistent
- 00:04:17performance on competitiveness for
- 00:04:20example even though we do see some green
- 00:04:22shoots in the latest readings we know
- 00:04:25this will take time and that it must
- 00:04:28remain an area of Absol absolute focus
- 00:04:31in addition to that and as we said last
- 00:04:33quarter we are making key changes in our
- 00:04:35ice cream business with initial focus on
- 00:04:38North America and in Europe to drive
- 00:04:41sustainably better
- 00:04:42performance for the first half this has
- 00:04:45led to better service to our customers
- 00:04:47better pricing and better
- 00:04:50competitiveness but despite that however
- 00:04:53the business still had a disappointing
- 00:04:56quarter and while Market factors helped
- 00:04:58to explain lot of this the performance
- 00:05:01reinforces the importance of continuing
- 00:05:03to make these operational improvements
- 00:05:06we will do just
- 00:05:07that we will now go deeper on the
- 00:05:10results themselves so I hand over to
- 00:05:12Fernando to take you through thank you K
- 00:05:15underlying sales growth in the first
- 00:05:17half was 4.1% with second quarter at
- 00:05:213.9% both with a strong volume
- 00:05:23contribution we deliver our third
- 00:05:26consecutive quarter of positive
- 00:05:28improving volume growth grow underly
- 00:05:31volume growth was 2.9% in quarter 2 up
- 00:05:34from 2.2% in quarter 1 and 1.8% in
- 00:05:38quarter 4 of
- 00:05:402023 as expected given the reversal in
- 00:05:43commodity cycle during the last year
- 00:05:46price growth has significantly slow down
- 00:05:48to 1% in the last quarter let's take now
- 00:05:52a closer look by business group butang
- 00:05:55will beam deliver a strong first half
- 00:05:58with underlying sales growth of
- 00:06:007.1% under pin by 5.5% volume growth
- 00:06:05this is the third consecutive quarter in
- 00:06:07which bu and wellbe volume has been
- 00:06:09above 5% the strong performance has been
- 00:06:12anchor in our bu and wellbe power brands
- 00:06:15that deliver double digit growth SEL and
- 00:06:18Dav fuel Hair Care growth while baselin
- 00:06:21and pwns were a strong contributors in
- 00:06:24skin care for the 14th consecutive
- 00:06:26quarter our combined health and
- 00:06:29well-being and Prestige Beauty
- 00:06:30businesses deliver double digit growth
- 00:06:33health and wellbeing was particularly
- 00:06:35strong in this quarter while Prestige
- 00:06:37Beauty felt the impact of a Slowdown in
- 00:06:40the beauty Market in the US Personal
- 00:06:43Care grew
- 00:06:455.6% with a good balance between volume
- 00:06:47and price growth dve unil liver's
- 00:06:51largest brand achieved double digit
- 00:06:53growth across his female and male
- 00:06:56franchises on the back of a strong
- 00:06:58innovation across both theor and skin
- 00:07:01cleansing like the premium range of
- 00:07:04serum infused body washes in the
- 00:07:06US Theodor once again deliver double
- 00:07:10digit growth with a strong contributions
- 00:07:13from The multi-year Innovation platforms
- 00:07:15of Rona and ax on top of that although
- 00:07:19Temper by market challenges in Indonesia
- 00:07:21deflation in India and subdued
- 00:07:24performance of our antibacterial brand
- 00:07:26life boy a skin cleansing still deliver
- 00:07:29positive volume and price growth or care
- 00:07:33continue to grow mid single digit with
- 00:07:36positive volume and price led by closeup
- 00:07:38and
- 00:07:39pepsin Home Care grew 3.3% with volume
- 00:07:43up strongly at
- 00:07:464.6% the impact of Commodities deflation
- 00:07:49in the basket of Home Care materials led
- 00:07:51to negative price of 1.3% in several
- 00:07:55Emerging Markets particularly in laundry
- 00:07:58powders fabric cleaning grew low single
- 00:08:01digit and home hygiene grew strongly
- 00:08:04High single digit with very positive
- 00:08:07contribution from Europe in both our
- 00:08:10premium Innovations in Europe like
- 00:08:12percil Wonder wash comfor Elixir and
- 00:08:15domestos power foam are all off to a
- 00:08:18promising start and we are reinforcing
- 00:08:20our investment plans to accelerate
- 00:08:23momentum even more nutrition returned to
- 00:08:26positive volume growth in quarter 2
- 00:08:28which helped to deliver 3 2% underlying
- 00:08:30SE growth in the first half growth was
- 00:08:33driven by our power Brands including
- 00:08:35noran Helman which represent 2/3 of
- 00:08:38nutrition turnover and grew a combined
- 00:08:425.2% both Brands deliver positive volume
- 00:08:45growth with no leveraging local top
- 00:08:47dishes for it cooking a offering and
- 00:08:50Helman successfully expanding its flavor
- 00:08:52mayonnaise ranges once again unver Food
- 00:08:56Solutions deliver a strong performance
- 00:08:58with high single dig growth led by China
- 00:09:01operation on the back of a successful
- 00:09:03digital B2B selling program ice cream
- 00:09:07grew 6% with price growth of 1.6%
- 00:09:11partially upset by negative volume we
- 00:09:14are disappointed with theem performance
- 00:09:16that has been clearly below our ambition
- 00:09:19despite the operational progress we have
- 00:09:21made in areas like customer service
- 00:09:23competitive pricing and execution of our
- 00:09:26Innovation these operational
- 00:09:27improvements have reflected in improv
- 00:09:29competitiveness in the US and several of
- 00:09:32our European markets however performance
- 00:09:35has been seriously affected by sh Falls
- 00:09:38in China where we Face both tougher
- 00:09:40market conditions and competitive
- 00:09:42pressure and Sh Falls in Europe where
- 00:09:45poor weather negatively weighed on the
- 00:09:47start of the summer season we are
- 00:09:50responding to the challenges in China
- 00:09:51with the shift of our portfolio to
- 00:09:53premium and with distribution expansion
- 00:09:55into provinces where we foresee High
- 00:09:58consumption potential in Europe we keep
- 00:10:01tightening our operational grip while
- 00:10:04innovating in our biggest and more
- 00:10:06premium brand with the launch of three
- 00:10:08new variants of Magnum pleasure
- 00:10:10Express we run the business entirely
- 00:10:13through the lens of our five business
- 00:10:15groups however we believe it is
- 00:10:17important to provide also some color on
- 00:10:19performance in our different geographies
- 00:10:22during the first half of the year we
- 00:10:24deliver broad-based volume and price
- 00:10:26growth with positive contribution from
- 00:10:28all regions
- 00:10:29we show a strong performance in
- 00:10:31developed markets reflecting the return
- 00:10:33to volume growth in Europe and our
- 00:10:36continued solid performance in North
- 00:10:38America despite the weakening of
- 00:10:40consumer sentiment there a stronger
- 00:10:42Innovation Pipeline and increased level
- 00:10:44of brand Investments are evidence of our
- 00:10:47commitment to accelerate performance in
- 00:10:50these important hard currency markets in
- 00:10:53Latin America one of un Li strongholds
- 00:10:56performance remains a strong with 7%
- 00:10:59volume grows in the first half and a
- 00:11:01positive if even more subdued
- 00:11:03contribution from pricing to Total USG
- 00:11:06of
- 00:11:0888.8% we expect consumption is slow down
- 00:11:10in Argentina but the strengths of Our
- 00:11:12Brands and operation in Latin America
- 00:11:14region make us confident about our
- 00:11:16prospects there are in Asia Pacific
- 00:11:19Africa our biggest region important to
- 00:11:22highlight the sequential Improvement of
- 00:11:24our business in India our volume growth
- 00:11:26in India accelerated to 3.8% in quarter
- 00:11:302 as we Consolidated the share gains
- 00:11:33achieved over the last 3 years growth in
- 00:11:36Southeast Asia also sequentially
- 00:11:38improving quarter 2 despite the sfe
- 00:11:40decline in Indonesia our long-standing
- 00:11:43issues in Indonesia have been
- 00:11:44exacerbated by the reaction of groups of
- 00:11:47consumers against multinational brands
- 00:11:49in response to the geopolitical
- 00:11:51situation in the Middle East fixing
- 00:11:53Indonesia will require significant
- 00:11:55portfolio initiatives and the reset of
- 00:11:57our root to Market strategy it will take
- 00:12:00time and we do not expect to see
- 00:12:02significant benefit of operational
- 00:12:04changes in
- 00:12:052024 last but not least Africa and the
- 00:12:08Middle East deliver another period of a
- 00:12:10strong performance with double digit
- 00:12:12underly Sal growth and both positive
- 00:12:15volume and positive
- 00:12:17price let me return now to the
- 00:12:19performance at the group level turnover
- 00:12:22for the first half was 31.1 billion e up
- 00:12:262.3% versus the previous year underlying
- 00:12:29sales growth of 4.1% was the main
- 00:12:32contributor net impact of acquisition
- 00:12:34and disposals was netive
- 00:12:37.7% Acquisitions added 5% driven by yaso
- 00:12:42and K18 both performing in line with
- 00:12:45acquisition business cases this was more
- 00:12:47than upset by a disposal impact of minus
- 00:12:511.2% driven by sve dollar shap clav and
- 00:12:55one month of Elita Beauty which sale was
- 00:12:58completed on the 1st of June
- 00:13:012024 currency had an adverse impact in
- 00:13:04the half of minus
- 00:13:061.1% which was a considerably smaller
- 00:13:10impact than the one in 2023 when the
- 00:13:13Euro strengthened against most
- 00:13:16currencies during the first half of 2024
- 00:13:19we expanded our gross margin by 420
- 00:13:23basis points to
- 00:13:2645.7% building upon the Improvement of
- 00:13:29330 basis points achieved in the second
- 00:13:33half of
- 00:13:342023 we continue to make progress in
- 00:13:37transforming unil liver into a
- 00:13:39structurally higher gross margin
- 00:13:41business by driving volume leverage
- 00:13:44positive mix transformational
- 00:13:46procurement initiatives and net
- 00:13:49productivity gains in production and
- 00:13:51logistic cost in the first half of 2024
- 00:13:54we also saw the combined benefit of
- 00:13:56deflation in some components of our
- 00:13:59commodity basket and the pricing carry
- 00:14:01over from a period of higher commodity
- 00:14:04inflation this strong gross margin
- 00:14:06expansum gave us flexibility to both
- 00:14:10increase investment in Our Brands and
- 00:14:12expand underly operating margin we
- 00:14:15increased brand and marketing investment
- 00:14:17by 180 basis points to 15.1% of turnover
- 00:14:21an increase of almost 700 million EUR
- 00:14:25behind a much more Focus Innovation
- 00:14:27program and behind our thir power brands
- 00:14:30in which we have allocated 85% of the
- 00:14:33incremental investment our underlying
- 00:14:35operating profit was 6.1 billion e up
- 00:14:4017.1% the underlying operating margin
- 00:14:42improved 250 basis points to
- 00:14:4619.6% on the back of the strong gross
- 00:14:49margin expansion plus a tight control of
- 00:14:52overheads underlying earnings per share
- 00:14:55were
- 00:14:56β¬162 up 16.3% % our operational
- 00:15:00performance the combination of sales
- 00:15:02grows and a margin expansion contributed
- 00:15:0620.4% to underly EPS growth an
- 00:15:09increasing Finance cost had an adverse
- 00:15:12effect of minus 1% as expected higher
- 00:15:16interest rate impacted the cost of
- 00:15:19service in our debth while interest
- 00:15:21income and interest credit from pensions
- 00:15:23were lower than in the prior year net
- 00:15:26Finance cost as a percentage of aage net
- 00:15:29depth were 2.9% in the first half and we
- 00:15:32now expect net Finance cost to be around
- 00:15:353% of average net debt for the full year
- 00:15:39tax was a drag of 3.2% on underly EPS as
- 00:15:43our underly effective tax rate increased
- 00:15:46to
- 00:15:4726% this was driven primarily by lower
- 00:15:51benefits from tax settlements another
- 00:15:53oneoff items we expect our underlying
- 00:15:56tax rate to remain at around 26 % for
- 00:15:59the full year the impact of our share
- 00:16:02buyback program made a positive
- 00:16:03contribution of
- 00:16:051% negative currency effect in EPS was
- 00:16:08similar to the one experienced at
- 00:16:10turnover level at around 1% and explains
- 00:16:14the difference between constant
- 00:16:17underlying EPS growth at
- 00:16:1917.3% and current at
- 00:16:2316.3% our free cash flow in the first
- 00:16:26half was β¬2.2 billion EUR down 300
- 00:16:29million versus previous year the
- 00:16:32increase in operating profit was more
- 00:16:34than upset by a higher seasonal outflow
- 00:16:36in working capital A Step Up in capital
- 00:16:39expenditure and higher income tax paid
- 00:16:42against a prior year comparator that
- 00:16:44benefited from some refunds in India for
- 00:16:47the full year we will work towards
- 00:16:50maintaining the levels of negative
- 00:16:51working capital with which we operated
- 00:16:54in recent years we continue to expect
- 00:16:57capital expenditure at a around 3% of
- 00:17:00turnover in the full year as a result of
- 00:17:03the strong first half performance the
- 00:17:05uni lead board has decided to increase a
- 00:17:07quarterly interim dividend by 3% the
- 00:17:11first increase in quarter 4
- 00:17:142020 in February of this year we
- 00:17:16announced a share buback program of up
- 00:17:19to 1.5 billion euros to be conducted
- 00:17:22during
- 00:17:232024 the first TR of β¬850 million EUR
- 00:17:27commence in May
- 00:17:29and is expected to complete on or before
- 00:17:32the 30th of August
- 00:17:352024 turning now to the outl for the
- 00:17:37reminder of the year we continue to
- 00:17:40expect underlying sales growth for 2024
- 00:17:42to be within our multi-year range of 3
- 00:17:46to 5% with the majority of growth coming
- 00:17:49from volume we expect underly operating
- 00:17:52margin for the full year to be at least
- 00:17:5618% with increasing investment behind
- 00:17:58our Brands year- on-year margin
- 00:18:01progression in the second half is
- 00:18:03expected to be a smaller than the one in
- 00:18:05the first half given the stronger
- 00:18:07comparators and some increases in
- 00:18:10replenishment cost of our key materials
- 00:18:13given the moderate return of commodity
- 00:18:15inflation with that over to you
- 00:18:19he thank you Fernando I want to come
- 00:18:21back to the Growth Action Plan or gap
- 00:18:24which we see as key to improving our
- 00:18:26performance and restoring
- 00:18:28competitiveness
- 00:18:29in the nine months since it was launched
- 00:18:32we have been implementing the plan at
- 00:18:33PACE across all 10 action areas as a
- 00:18:37reminder those action areas fall under
- 00:18:39three broad priorities one to deliver
- 00:18:42faster high quality growth two to create
- 00:18:46a more streamlined and productive
- 00:18:48business and three to embed within
- 00:18:51Unilever a sharper performance culture
- 00:18:54during previous results announcements we
- 00:18:56have gone a little deeper on progress in
- 00:18:58specific areas and today I want to touch
- 00:19:01on two areas that are key to driving
- 00:19:03faster growth I also want to say
- 00:19:06something further about productivity on
- 00:19:08faster growth we've been clear that this
- 00:19:10will come primarily from an increased
- 00:19:12focus on our power brands in practice
- 00:19:15this means stepping up
- 00:19:17investment and you see that with today's
- 00:19:20announcement and with the details
- 00:19:21Fernando shared earlier BMI is up 180
- 00:19:25basis points with 85% of the incremental
- 00:19:28increase going behind power
- 00:19:31Brands but increased Focus also means
- 00:19:34ensuring these brands are unmissabl
- 00:19:36superior and that we scale Innovations
- 00:19:40more
- 00:19:41effectively the two elements are closely
- 00:19:43linked of course let me take them in
- 00:19:46turn starting with admissible
- 00:19:48superiority the concept here is as clear
- 00:19:50as it is compelling namely that Brands
- 00:19:52need to win not just on product
- 00:19:55superiority but across multiple drivers
- 00:19:57of consumer reference in our case that
- 00:20:00means winning on product but also on
- 00:20:03packaging proposition promotion place
- 00:20:05and price the cause a link between
- 00:20:09improvements in these six PS and
- 00:20:12stronger brand performance is clear we
- 00:20:15have validated it now in more than 119
- 00:20:17strategic
- 00:20:19cells that process involved taking 21
- 00:20:22proven drivers of market shares
- 00:20:25everything from better quality
- 00:20:26perception to average price index to
- 00:20:29measuring the breadth and depth of
- 00:20:31distributed
- 00:20:33assortment and then deploying these
- 00:20:35input metrics across the six piece using
- 00:20:38both market and proprietary
- 00:20:41data the insights are very powerful and
- 00:20:44with this improved understanding of what
- 00:20:47drives market share changes and by
- 00:20:49monitoring developments continuously
- 00:20:51over time we are able to move with speed
- 00:20:54and Precision in taking the actions
- 00:20:57needed making Our Brands unmiss Superior
- 00:21:00like this is a necessary but not the
- 00:21:03only condition for faster growth we also
- 00:21:06need to get better at scaling our
- 00:21:08Innovations we have the brand strength
- 00:21:11and the R&D capabilities needed to do
- 00:21:14this our Focus therefore has been on
- 00:21:17leveraging these strengths more
- 00:21:19effectively specifically working on the
- 00:21:22big science and technology platforms
- 00:21:24that span our portfolio like
- 00:21:27biotechnology to ensure that we land
- 00:21:30innovations that are not only bigger in
- 00:21:32themselves but that drive category
- 00:21:34growth also here we are making
- 00:21:38progress the first half saw a number of
- 00:21:41examples of Market making Innovations
- 00:21:43across all business groups with common
- 00:21:46themes around meeting consumer needs
- 00:21:49premiumization and differentiated
- 00:21:52technology you see just some of them on
- 00:21:55the screen here percel wonderwash as
- 00:21:58Fernando mentioned already is a
- 00:22:00particularly good example one it's
- 00:22:02Technology based the product is
- 00:22:05developed with our patented PR s
- 00:22:08technology two it's differentiated this
- 00:22:11is the first ever detergent for short
- 00:22:13cycle washes and three it's scalable
- 00:22:17already launched and doing well in the
- 00:22:19UK France and China the product is on
- 00:22:22track to be rolled out across other key
- 00:22:25markets over the next 18 months of of
- 00:22:28course we have a lot still to do and it
- 00:22:31will take time for the benefits to come
- 00:22:33through but based on the work we have
- 00:22:36done to date I'm confident of meeting
- 00:22:38our ambition of doubling the average
- 00:22:40size of our Innovations overall and
- 00:22:43driving a select number of top
- 00:22:45Innovation projects to over 100 million
- 00:22:47euro in 2025 and
- 00:22:50Beyond we will come back to progress
- 00:22:53across all elements of the Growth Action
- 00:22:54Plan later in the year but I wanted to
- 00:22:56touch on these two areas today because
- 00:22:58of their importance in driving our
- 00:23:01overriding priority of faster higher
- 00:23:03quality
- 00:23:05growth in March we announced two
- 00:23:08significant measures to accelerate the
- 00:23:10Growth Action Plan and strengthen
- 00:23:11unilever's position further over the
- 00:23:14long term first the launch of a
- 00:23:16companywide productivity drive we are
- 00:23:19currently Consulting on the details of
- 00:23:21the changes we want to make with
- 00:23:23employee
- 00:23:25Representatives however I'm confident
- 00:23:26that the proposals will more than offset
- 00:23:29the operational dis synergies arising
- 00:23:31from the separation of ice
- 00:23:33cream more significantly these measures
- 00:23:36will help to simplify unil lever they
- 00:23:39will Foster quicker decision- making
- 00:23:42higher levels of accountability and they
- 00:23:44will put operational power more directly
- 00:23:47in the hands of those in Frontline
- 00:23:50roles as such we see them as an
- 00:23:52important part of the cultural change
- 00:23:54program we have embarked on which also
- 00:23:57includes other measures we've taken such
- 00:23:59as strengthening the link between
- 00:24:01performance and
- 00:24:04reward the other part of the
- 00:24:06announcement in March concerned the
- 00:24:08separation of ice cream we remain
- 00:24:11convinced that this is in the best
- 00:24:13long-term interest of both Unilever and
- 00:24:16ice
- 00:24:17cream so there is a huge amount of work
- 00:24:20ongoing including the legal entity setup
- 00:24:23designing the Standalone operating model
- 00:24:25preparing the carard financials and so
- 00:24:28forth
- 00:24:29this work is on track and we are
- 00:24:31confident that separation will be
- 00:24:33complete by the end of
- 00:24:352025 and with that let me sum up there
- 00:24:38is a lot to do but we can point to
- 00:24:41progress over the first half of this
- 00:24:43year for one the Growth Action Plan is
- 00:24:46now firmly established across the
- 00:24:48business the benefits are building
- 00:24:50steadily not least in the performance of
- 00:24:52our power Brands and the expansion of
- 00:24:54gross margin and two we are on track in
- 00:24:58progressing the two measures we've
- 00:24:59announced to accelerate the Growth
- 00:25:01Action Plan and strengthen Unilever over
- 00:25:03the long term a comprehensive
- 00:25:05productivity program and the separation
- 00:25:08of ice
- 00:25:09cream taken together we are confident
- 00:25:12that these steps will help to transform
- 00:25:14un lever over time into a consistently
- 00:25:17higher performing business thank you for
- 00:25:20your attention we look forward now to
- 00:25:22taking your
- 00:25:26questions thank you very very much for
- 00:25:28joining the call um our first question
- 00:25:30comes from Seline at JP Morgan Seline
- 00:25:32please do go
- 00:25:36ahead uh good morning thank you for
- 00:25:38taking my question uh maybe my first
- 00:25:40question is on the outlook for growth
- 00:25:42you maintained the three to
- 00:25:455% um you mentioned earlier that you
- 00:25:48expect volume to uh Drive most of that
- 00:25:51are you still expecting volume growth to
- 00:25:54accelerate in the second half versus the
- 00:25:56Q2 level of 2.9%
- 00:25:59and if so can you talk about where this
- 00:26:01acceleration coming from because I think
- 00:26:03Fernando in your remark you mentioned
- 00:26:05that Argentina will be tougher I think
- 00:26:08Indonesia as well uh will take time and
- 00:26:11the comp uh is also more difficult for
- 00:26:15volume in the second half that's my
- 00:26:17third question and then my second
- 00:26:19question uh obviously a strong beating
- 00:26:22gross margin and AIT in H1 um You
- 00:26:26probably going to be around above 4 4%
- 00:26:28gross margin for uh the full year um
- 00:26:31could you elaborate about the potential
- 00:26:34for gross margin um level uh going
- 00:26:38forward and uh in terms of the AIT
- 00:26:40margin at more than 18% um how much uh
- 00:26:45more upside you see uh given the
- 00:26:47strength in the business and the
- 00:26:48productivity uh you are putting in place
- 00:26:50in the midterm thank you thank you
- 00:26:53Seline for the question it's h uh
- 00:26:55appreciate it uh what we'll do is I'll
- 00:26:57I'll start with the the first question
- 00:26:59on on volume and Fernando will take the
- 00:27:02uh the question on on the gross margin
- 00:27:04and on ebit margin you know on volume uh
- 00:27:06we've talked about our our full year uh
- 00:27:09in the guidance Street of 5% we've
- 00:27:10talked about it being volume lad and and
- 00:27:14volume to be the majority of our growth
- 00:27:16and if you look at if you look at
- 00:27:18quarter two um you know that's that's
- 00:27:20you know that's exactly what's what's
- 00:27:21happening and we expect a if you you
- 00:27:24know sort of take you know the first
- 00:27:25half year in terms of the percentage
- 00:27:27split we expect roughly uh similar in
- 00:27:30the in the second half um and you know
- 00:27:33as as we as we already said we we are
- 00:27:35sticking to our um to our full full year
- 00:27:37guidance so you know I would I would
- 00:27:39just take it as volume lad with no no
- 00:27:42material changes uh in the split between
- 00:27:45volume and price as it stands today um
- 00:27:48Fernando on the um on on the margins
- 00:27:51yeah good morning Seline hey we are
- 00:27:53really very pleased with the development
- 00:27:55of our margins uh since h I feel we have
- 00:27:59been very very clear about our ambition
- 00:28:01to restore gross margin at pre-o levels
- 00:28:05and to structurally increase our gross
- 00:28:07margin and when we talk about the
- 00:28:09structural increase in our gross margin
- 00:28:11we mention four key drivers volume
- 00:28:13leverage positive mix interventions in
- 00:28:16the value chain of some of our key
- 00:28:18materials and finally a higher
- 00:28:20allocation of capital expenditure to to
- 00:28:23margin expansion initiatives that uh
- 00:28:26would allow us to really significant
- 00:28:27increase productivity in production and
- 00:28:30logistic cost and we have been really
- 00:28:32making significant progress in all these
- 00:28:34drivers and this is reflected in the 420
- 00:28:37basis points of expansion in the in the
- 00:28:39gross margin of the first half and
- 00:28:41surely you remember that we increase
- 00:28:43around 330 in the second half of last
- 00:28:46year I want to recognize also that
- 00:28:49during the first half we benefited from
- 00:28:51a more favorable scenario of Commodities
- 00:28:53and that has had an impact also I feel
- 00:28:55of the expansion of gross margin we
- 00:28:56allocated around 40% % of that to
- 00:28:58increase our brand and marketing
- 00:29:00investment and 60% has gone into the
- 00:29:03into the bottom line and when it comes
- 00:29:05to full year delivery we have set up a
- 00:29:07floor of 18% underlying operating margin
- 00:29:11at this stage we want to remain cautious
- 00:29:14given three developments uh that we see
- 00:29:16in different areas uh we see some
- 00:29:19increase in the level of competitive
- 00:29:21marketing spending particularly markets
- 00:29:23like us and India and this can demand a
- 00:29:26higher VMI in the next future we see a
- 00:29:30return of moderate inflation to some key
- 00:29:32Commodities of our biglo
- 00:29:34materials I can mention aluminium pal
- 00:29:37Benzene or cocoa and we see some
- 00:29:40deterioration in the last few weeks on
- 00:29:42some Emerging Market currencies even if
- 00:29:44for the full year we see the negative
- 00:29:47currency effect to be much smaller than
- 00:29:49in previous years in summary we are very
- 00:29:52very happy with the progress we are
- 00:29:53achieving in making uni Li and a
- 00:29:55structurally higher margin business we
- 00:29:57expect mod gross margin Improvement
- 00:30:00going forward after having achieved
- 00:30:02pre-o levels and we remain cautious for
- 00:30:04the second half of the Year given the
- 00:30:06need of keeping investing behind Our
- 00:30:08Brands and the issues I have mentioned
- 00:30:09in terms of currency and materials
- 00:30:13inflation our next question comes from
- 00:30:15Olivier at Goldman Sachs go
- 00:30:19ahead hi good morning uh got two
- 00:30:22questions please first of all on us
- 00:30:24Beauty you mentioned that you were
- 00:30:26seeing a slow us Beauty category slowing
- 00:30:29down parly in skin care uh why do you
- 00:30:32think it's the underlying reason there
- 00:30:34and do you think it's structural and and
- 00:30:36how do you think you can change the
- 00:30:39trajectory for power's Choice that's the
- 00:30:41first first question and then just on
- 00:30:43the marketing investment increase
- 00:30:46strongly to to 15.1% of net sales um
- 00:30:50when do you expect the business winning
- 00:30:52market share metric to to improve or is
- 00:30:54it just go down in h one because of of a
- 00:30:57we mon night thank you thanks Olivier um
- 00:31:02let me first talk about North America
- 00:31:04and um and the the somewhat slowdown and
- 00:31:06the prestige Beauty side you know that's
- 00:31:09indeed what we're what what we're seeing
- 00:31:11um and notably in Sephora and and and
- 00:31:14ult mean those type of of Change by the
- 00:31:16way we also see it in uh in China um we
- 00:31:19don't think it's a uh it's structural um
- 00:31:23and I should also point to you know
- 00:31:25there's still U you know different
- 00:31:27performance by brand so some Brands you
- 00:31:29know continue to beat the trend and
- 00:31:30obviously some brands are sort of more
- 00:31:32going going going with the trend so what
- 00:31:35we do is we stick to it uh we believe
- 00:31:36it's a we have strong Brands uh we have
- 00:31:39strong presence in the channels that I
- 00:31:40talked about uh quite a few of Our
- 00:31:42Brands as you know are digitally native
- 00:31:44so you know um that you know we we're
- 00:31:47capable of uh of investing more behind
- 00:31:49them and and control that so we feel
- 00:31:51that it's a very positive part of our
- 00:31:53business and we will continue toh to
- 00:31:55invest and we don't believe that it's
- 00:31:57it's really structural it may last for a
- 00:31:59bit uh but we don't see long-term
- 00:32:01prospects in that sense uh changing when
- 00:32:04you think of the market shares um market
- 00:32:06shares uh as we said last last year we
- 00:32:10measuring that on an mat basis of when
- 00:32:12we communicate about it we don't expect
- 00:32:14we didn't expect major change in the
- 00:32:16first half uh but but but indications
- 00:32:19over the last 12 weeks so let's call it
- 00:32:21the last three months uh mat measurement
- 00:32:24we don't we are seeing green shoots and
- 00:32:26that gives us confidence that in the
- 00:32:27second half half of the year which is
- 00:32:29also consistent with what we've what
- 00:32:30we've said in October that we start to
- 00:32:33uh to see improvements uh we don't
- 00:32:35expect by the way for the full year to
- 00:32:37come into a significant positive
- 00:32:40territory but we do see an improving
- 00:32:42trajectory in uh in competitiveness it
- 00:32:44is important uh that as as we've said a
- 00:32:47few times uh when we look at market
- 00:32:49share development it is approximately
- 00:32:5170% of our portfolio is covered uh 30%
- 00:32:55is not in that
- 00:32:56measure our next question comes from
- 00:32:59James Edward Jones at RBC go ahead
- 00:33:02James thank you very much morning all um
- 00:33:06it's not your sector I know hin but
- 00:33:08carlsburg um is acquiring Brit Vick a
- 00:33:10predominantly UK company in preference
- 00:33:13to allocating Capital to emerging
- 00:33:15markets do you see any reason to be
- 00:33:17concerned about the medium to longer
- 00:33:19term trajectory for emerging
- 00:33:23markets um good thank you thank you for
- 00:33:25your uh thanks for the question um you
- 00:33:27know if you look at it over the last
- 00:33:29couple of years we have
- 00:33:31consistently um you know invested
- 00:33:33capital in North America uh behind our
- 00:33:36Prestige Beauty business in particular
- 00:33:38and behind our health and well-being
- 00:33:39business um you know and since the time
- 00:33:41that that I've been here and and
- 00:33:43together with Fernando I mean we've made
- 00:33:44some clear DEC investment decisions
- 00:33:46there as well we've acquired on yaso
- 00:33:48we've acquired K18 and we believe that
- 00:33:50you know both of these Brands they fit
- 00:33:51us very well so the way we look at it is
- 00:33:55uh first of all we're looking for brands
- 00:33:57that you know that have the ability to
- 00:33:59scale across the globe um and North
- 00:34:02American brands tend you know tend to
- 00:34:04sort of have that that opportunity to
- 00:34:06scale across a large geography the us
- 00:34:07and then you know uh internationalize as
- 00:34:10well so that we think is very attractive
- 00:34:13of course it helps us on the hard
- 00:34:14currency side as well which is important
- 00:34:16for us and I think we've we've we've
- 00:34:18mentioned this a few a few times but uh
- 00:34:21if the right opportunities would of
- 00:34:23course come along in U in in in in
- 00:34:25geographies that are very important to
- 00:34:28us think of India for example we will of
- 00:34:29course take a hard look but I would you
- 00:34:32know I would call out those criteria um
- 00:34:35she should be strategically in the
- 00:34:37categories in which we play or in the
- 00:34:39channels on which we play should be uh
- 00:34:42capable to to to scale up uh and should
- 00:34:45be in in the geographies where we put
- 00:34:47our priority so let me add kind that the
- 00:34:51fundamentals that make Emerging Markets
- 00:34:53attractive remain there you know when
- 00:34:56you look at population growth when you
- 00:34:57look look at the emergence of the middle
- 00:34:59class when you look at rapid
- 00:35:02urbanization uh they are all there and
- 00:35:05we continue very optimistic about our
- 00:35:08prospects in Emerging Markets where we
- 00:35:09have very very strong positions in all
- 00:35:11the biggest markets I feel in 16 of the
- 00:35:14top 20 world fastest growing economies
- 00:35:16un Li is a leading player um so we
- 00:35:19continue seeing Emerging Market as a key
- 00:35:21pillar of our
- 00:35:22strategy our next question comes from
- 00:35:25Tom Sykes at Deutch Bank go ahead Tom
- 00:35:30yeah thank you morning um firstly just
- 00:35:33exploring the the six PS uh a bit um by
- 00:35:38the end of the year what percentage of
- 00:35:41your portfolio will have some kind of
- 00:35:45renewal in it either Innovation or or
- 00:35:48packaging change I think you've
- 00:35:50highlighted packaging before as an era
- 00:35:53of particular gain for you so what what
- 00:35:56would that be by by the end of the year
- 00:35:58and what would your view be on on how
- 00:36:00that should be on a an annual basis
- 00:36:03compared to history and then just on
- 00:36:06your productivity and capacity
- 00:36:09utilization I think you previously
- 00:36:11released in annual reports you've got
- 00:36:13about 280 factories about a th000 third
- 00:36:17party supplier sites you use of which
- 00:36:20about 80 or so were dedicated to
- 00:36:23unila what does that infrastructure look
- 00:36:26like in 3 years is time please thanks
- 00:36:30Tom for the for the question let me
- 00:36:31first talk about unmissable brand
- 00:36:33superiority so um you know first of all
- 00:36:36we believe that uh towards the end of
- 00:36:38the year uh we will I mean in terms of
- 00:36:40the methodology roughly 2/3 to 70% of
- 00:36:44the portfolio will will you know we
- 00:36:46we're looking at admissible brand
- 00:36:48superiority as the sort of the primary
- 00:36:50Benchmark for taking actions and of
- 00:36:52course to see you know if our actions
- 00:36:54lead to to the right results um when you
- 00:36:57ask a what is the uh what are we
- 00:37:00changing to uh to what what percentage
- 00:37:02of the portfolio we we'll see change in
- 00:37:04terms of innovation and packaging well I
- 00:37:06mean if you look at unmissable Brand
- 00:37:07superiority um we're looking at indeed
- 00:37:10six PS and of course when we see gaps to
- 00:37:13where we need to be or where the
- 00:37:15consumer wants us to take action of
- 00:37:17course we take action and the first
- 00:37:20results I mean you know we we've tested
- 00:37:23it we we're rolling it out now and when
- 00:37:25there is always something to improve
- 00:37:27move you know uh so so I would say
- 00:37:30essentially on the whole assortment we
- 00:37:32will continue to take actions whether
- 00:37:34it's price whether it's uh proposition
- 00:37:36whether it's place um or whether it's an
- 00:37:39innovation so I think that's sort of a
- 00:37:42dynamic thing and we will continue to do
- 00:37:43that when it comes to Innovation um
- 00:37:47there we have made a bit of a change I
- 00:37:48mean we have two goals first of all we
- 00:37:50want to make sure that the average size
- 00:37:52of our Innovations in totality would
- 00:37:55double this year and that means do fewer
- 00:37:58bigger and better the second thing that
- 00:38:01we've talked about on Innovations is
- 00:38:02that we're very keen that we will grow a
- 00:38:04select Set uh roughly you have to think
- 00:38:07about somewhere between 10 and 12 to
- 00:38:09platforms of more than 100 million and
- 00:38:11that's very important to make these
- 00:38:13bigger bats that we can scale uh across
- 00:38:16the globe and we're on track on um on
- 00:38:18achieving that cool I can cover the the
- 00:38:22questions in our supply chain um we are
- 00:38:25happy with the G setup of our our supply
- 00:38:27chain but we are investing fundamentally
- 00:38:29in increasing
- 00:38:30productivity um as I mentioned before
- 00:38:33you know we are allocating around uh
- 00:38:35more than 50% of our capex now to margin
- 00:38:38expansion initiatives that will fuel our
- 00:38:41gross margin development uh and we have
- 00:38:44a good balance between our own
- 00:38:45manufacturing and and three um and three
- 00:38:48piece you know and C- Packers I think C-
- 00:38:50Packers are fundamentally used in
- 00:38:52categories where it is required
- 00:38:54decentralized manufacturing due to the
- 00:38:56low value density of our products a
- 00:38:58clear example for example is in the home
- 00:39:01care or where the level of innovation is
- 00:39:04very very high um it requires a lot of
- 00:39:07changeovers let's take as an example of
- 00:39:09that Prestige Beauty so we have around
- 00:39:1211 billion of net Book value of assets
- 00:39:15we believe that with a consistent volume
- 00:39:18growth of around 2% around 30% of our
- 00:39:21capex will be allocated to capacity
- 00:39:24increase or innovation activities and as
- 00:39:26I mentioned before between 50 and 60% it
- 00:39:29will be allocated to Martian Maring
- 00:39:31expansion
- 00:39:33initiatives our next question comes from
- 00:39:35Jeff stent at BMP go ahead
- 00:39:39Jeff thank you JMA and good morning um
- 00:39:42two questions if I may um the first one
- 00:39:45is hio sheeper has now had a few months
- 00:39:48to get his feet under the nutrition desk
- 00:39:52um I'm just wondering if you could share
- 00:39:54um on behalf of hio what is going to
- 00:39:57thought are for what he wants to do with
- 00:39:59nutrition and the second question is
- 00:40:03could you just shed a bit more
- 00:40:05granularity on ice cream and what
- 00:40:08actions are really being taken across
- 00:40:11Europe North America and China thank you
- 00:40:14thanks Jeff um first of all on um on on
- 00:40:18on nutrition um and indeed hio um has
- 00:40:21has as you say feet on the desk but he
- 00:40:23made a a good and a flying start so very
- 00:40:26happy that hio is is on board um you
- 00:40:29know what he's done uh is obviously he's
- 00:40:31looked at the business traveled around
- 00:40:33uh make made sure that he uh you know
- 00:40:35got very familiar with our operations
- 00:40:37his first
- 00:40:38observations are that we have actually a
- 00:40:41very uh healthy and a very sound
- 00:40:43nutrition business you know uh it is
- 00:40:46quite concentrated um and and it focuses
- 00:40:50on condiments it focuses on cooking AIDS
- 00:40:53it focuses on Food Solutions and we have
- 00:40:56a a strong functional nutrition uh
- 00:40:59business or Healthy nutrition business
- 00:41:01in India with its domestic Brands so
- 00:41:04those are sort of the four um you know
- 00:41:06the four pillars and that he identified
- 00:41:09and where he is Keen to grow and where
- 00:41:10he's Keen to make the difference if you
- 00:41:13look at the first three pillars uh so
- 00:41:15condiments cooking AIDS and Food
- 00:41:17Solutions um the similarity between them
- 00:41:20is that you know one brand in each of
- 00:41:22those vertical so in in cooking AIDS
- 00:41:24that's nor which is the second biggest
- 00:41:26brand of the company in um in condomin
- 00:41:28it's helmets and actually Food Solutions
- 00:41:30it's the combination of two but the
- 00:41:32these key Brands these two brands are
- 00:41:34the vast majority of uh of nutrition
- 00:41:37sales and we're keen to grow them and
- 00:41:39that's exactly what we did by the way in
- 00:41:41the first half so these two Brands
- 00:41:43together they grew 5.2% which was ahead
- 00:41:45of the company average and very close to
- 00:41:47the to the overall the top the top 30
- 00:41:50power brand story so you know he's very
- 00:41:52much aligned with with that he's Keen to
- 00:41:54streamline the nutrition business
- 00:41:56further making sure sure that we scale
- 00:41:58those Brands and that we roll out the
- 00:42:00strong Innovations there I can take the
- 00:42:02ice cream part if you want the H um hey
- 00:42:06we know that ice cream after a very poor
- 00:42:08year last year you know there were many
- 00:42:11elements to fix in our operations and we
- 00:42:14have done we have implemented actions in
- 00:42:16several areas you know our service has
- 00:42:18improved significantly we have restored
- 00:42:21competitiveness in our pricing strategy
- 00:42:23and our promotion strategy particularly
- 00:42:25in us and Europe and believe the level
- 00:42:28of execution in point of sale of our
- 00:42:30Innovation is much better than the one
- 00:42:32last year and as a result we are seeing
- 00:42:34our competitiveness our shares both in
- 00:42:37us and in in several of our markets in
- 00:42:39Europe to get better this being said
- 00:42:42there are much more work to do in fixing
- 00:42:45some of our execution and operations uh
- 00:42:49we are working on that the disappointing
- 00:42:52performance has been fundamentally
- 00:42:54driven by what I would call a very weak
- 00:42:56performance in China where the market
- 00:42:59conditions has been tougher and where we
- 00:43:01have been under competitive pressure and
- 00:43:03many actions have been taken in order to
- 00:43:06premiumize our portfolio and expand
- 00:43:08distribution in the regions in which we
- 00:43:11see more consumption growth potential
- 00:43:13and of course some uh bad conditions of
- 00:43:16weather in Europe but they weather
- 00:43:18sometimes plays good sometimes plays bad
- 00:43:20we will not hide ourselves behind that
- 00:43:23so many many actions in place we expect
- 00:43:26sequential Improvement quarter on
- 00:43:27quarter in ice cream and Our intention
- 00:43:29is to really put this uh business in a
- 00:43:31very good footing uh prior to the
- 00:43:33separation that as we have mentioned
- 00:43:35before it will be completed by the end
- 00:43:37of
- 00:43:392025 our next question comes from Gom at
- 00:43:42UBS go ahead
- 00:43:45G thanks gentlemen morning Han Fernando
- 00:43:48good morning um two questions for me
- 00:43:51please um the first one is on pricing I
- 00:43:54mean not Union specific but we are
- 00:43:57seeing a rapid normalization of pricing
- 00:44:00in your case it's particularly visible
- 00:44:02in Europe and North America in the
- 00:44:05quarter with a marked sequential
- 00:44:07deceleration so I'm wondering here what
- 00:44:10the Outlook is for pricing I mean would
- 00:44:13you expect a further softening over the
- 00:44:15coming quarters and particularly could
- 00:44:17we return to negative pricing in
- 00:44:20developed markets as it's uh it's been
- 00:44:22the case uh in uh in the past and and
- 00:44:26generally do you see major changes in
- 00:44:28consumer Behavior I mean bit around
- 00:44:30trading down buying more on promo or
- 00:44:35still some fast adoption of private
- 00:44:37label and then my uh second question is
- 00:44:40on the key gross engines of health and
- 00:44:43well-being and Prestige Beauty I mean
- 00:44:46just wondering if you could provide some
- 00:44:47color on what's happening on health and
- 00:44:49well-being because continued strong
- 00:44:52performance uh you start to roll out
- 00:44:54some of your Brands uh internationally
- 00:44:56outside of the the US so wondering how
- 00:44:59uh this is uh going and on a Prestige
- 00:45:03Beauty does the muted development of the
- 00:45:06Chinese Beauty Market change a little
- 00:45:08bit your plan for uh the roll out of
- 00:45:10your Brands there thank you thanks Gom
- 00:45:13um let me tackle them one by one I think
- 00:45:15it's a there's there's various questions
- 00:45:17here but first of all on uh on pricing
- 00:45:20you know um we have indeed seen lower
- 00:45:22pricing in the uh in the first half of
- 00:45:23the year uh and as well as in Q2 U but
- 00:45:27was quite Regional uh for us uh you know
- 00:45:29we had negative pricing in um in South
- 00:45:31Asia and in Southeast Asia in some
- 00:45:34categories so where we have seen real
- 00:45:36commodity uh deflationary impacts we've
- 00:45:38adjusted pricing accordingly to also of
- 00:45:40course give back to the consumers where
- 00:45:42that's needed and to focus on our
- 00:45:44competitiveness and and ensuring a
- 00:45:46volume L growth story that we've that
- 00:45:48we've talked about so we've been really
- 00:45:50very close to uh to pricing and making
- 00:45:52sure uh that we stick very uh you know
- 00:45:55stick close to to what we want to
- 00:45:56achieve
- 00:45:57if you look if you look forward uh we
- 00:45:59expect inflation to go back to more
- 00:46:01normalized levels then you have to think
- 00:46:04somewhere in the you know globally and
- 00:46:06I'm not talking particular Commodities
- 00:46:08but you know think of a level of
- 00:46:10somewhere between two and 3% and that
- 00:46:12means that I would say overtime towards
- 00:46:15the end of the year and possibly in the
- 00:46:17beginning of next year uh we would need
- 00:46:19to start preparing for slightly higher
- 00:46:22pricing levels but not not close of
- 00:46:24course to the levels that we've seen in
- 00:46:262021 and 2022 in times of the the very
- 00:46:28heavy inflation so I think you know
- 00:46:30we're now seeing sort of that negative
- 00:46:32pricing In Pockets I think that will
- 00:46:34rebound a bit based on moderate
- 00:46:35inflation in our in our key Commodities
- 00:46:38uh overall when you look at consumer
- 00:46:40behavior um look U there is additional
- 00:46:45there is somewhat heightened promotional
- 00:46:47activity in um in Europe so if you look
- 00:46:49at the market there we're seeing more
- 00:46:52promotional activity in Europe um us is
- 00:46:55actually pretty pretty constant and for
- 00:46:57us uh we have participated in that but
- 00:47:00not to a significant extent so we didn't
- 00:47:03promote much more than the the market
- 00:47:05did and in fact we scaled here and there
- 00:47:07we we scaled down um a little a little
- 00:47:09bit you know and I think U the European
- 00:47:12consumer as we as as we said you know of
- 00:47:15course they some look for Value uh We've
- 00:47:17also seen increased market share of uh
- 00:47:20of private label brands in Europe over
- 00:47:21the last years and that continued
- 00:47:23somewhat in the first half of 2024 but I
- 00:47:26believe that you know going forward and
- 00:47:27in a more normalized uh inflationary
- 00:47:31environment things will will will settle
- 00:47:33there a bit on health and well-being on
- 00:47:36Prestige Beauty just a few words but
- 00:47:38asking Fernando to add you know we are
- 00:47:40indeed internationalizing our health and
- 00:47:42well-being Brands we introduced liquid
- 00:47:44IV in in Canada we did that in the UK we
- 00:47:47did it in Australia uh and in a few
- 00:47:49other European countries that will take
- 00:47:52a little bit because hey liquid IV grew
- 00:47:54in the US over a period of seven years
- 00:47:56to what it is is today so it will take a
- 00:47:58bit of time for Europe uh as well and on
- 00:48:00Prestige Beauty um it's a similar story
- 00:48:03I mean if you look at at the brands uh
- 00:48:05we have actually rolled them out in in
- 00:48:07some other markets but our exposure on
- 00:48:11Prestige Beauty in China is very limited
- 00:48:14you know so and be quite clear we've
- 00:48:16actually introduced Ole the health and
- 00:48:18well-being brand in China that's going
- 00:48:20pretty well for us but the prestige
- 00:48:21Beauty exposure to China is very low
- 00:48:24yeah um I feel G regarding some what is
- 00:48:28behind the success of our health and
- 00:48:30well-being business and our Prestige
- 00:48:31business you know we have built the
- 00:48:33portfolio of what we believe are very
- 00:48:36very strong brand equities digitally
- 00:48:38native Brands brands that are authentic
- 00:48:42uh Anor lifestyle Brands we are riding
- 00:48:46the wellness Trend in in areas like
- 00:48:48hydration or or hairf for example um and
- 00:48:53you know we believe that this a is an
- 00:48:54advantage portfolio the one that we have
- 00:48:56built the in the US and that we are
- 00:48:59rolling out internationally just about
- 00:49:02China I feel H has mentioned that we
- 00:49:05have a very focused uh intern internal
- 00:49:08internationalization plan for our health
- 00:49:10and wellbeing and Prestige business in
- 00:49:12China two key brands for us are our
- 00:49:14glass and ol both are doing very very
- 00:49:16well in a market that is uh muted I
- 00:49:19would say in terms of the growth rate
- 00:49:21today but we are very very selective
- 00:49:23where we send our brands in the case of
- 00:49:26china we are absolutely focus in the
- 00:49:28high end of prestige Beauty and in a
- 00:49:30brand like OE that is really riding in
- 00:49:33the female Health uh
- 00:49:37Trend our next question is from Bruno at
- 00:49:40benstein go ahead
- 00:49:43Bruno hi good morning uh my first
- 00:49:46question is on product superiority High
- 00:49:49you sort of mentioned Brands need to win
- 00:49:51uh indeed clearly your competitiveness
- 00:49:54data you know was at the low 30 so
- 00:49:57you're they're actually not winning most
- 00:49:59of the time uh and obvious it can be
- 00:50:01timing element but I'm also remember
- 00:50:02that Alan your predecessors was talking
- 00:50:04about you know the high levels of
- 00:50:05product superiority so try to understand
- 00:50:07the mismatch between on the one hand
- 00:50:09product superiority saying your products
- 00:50:11are winning Market your data isn't
- 00:50:13saying you're winning is this an element
- 00:50:15of you having redefined product
- 00:50:17superiority and therefore this will you
- 00:50:19know get better it's improved measure is
- 00:50:22it a matter of timing we just need to
- 00:50:24wait a bit longer for that to come
- 00:50:26through or you know how long would you
- 00:50:28have to wait before you start doubting
- 00:50:30with the prod produ is the right way to
- 00:50:33measure it my second question is on
- 00:50:35volumes I mean my understanding you had
- 00:50:37price mix in there as well I think from
- 00:50:40my sort of estimates most of it it is
- 00:50:41price mix can you just quantify how big
- 00:50:43the mix component is out of your volume
- 00:50:46measure for the quarter thank you thanks
- 00:50:50Bruno I'll take the first question and
- 00:50:51um asking Fernando to take the second
- 00:50:53question on on mix I mean yes we have
- 00:50:56made made a uh we have made quite a
- 00:50:58change on um on looking at Our Brands uh
- 00:51:01so you're you're absolutely right you
- 00:51:02used the right words I mean we looked we
- 00:51:04previously we did look at product
- 00:51:07superiority as the most important metric
- 00:51:09and product superiority is about a
- 00:51:11functional benefit you know does the
- 00:51:13product what it's supposed to do um what
- 00:51:17we introduced uh in in October is a
- 00:51:20framework called unmissable brand
- 00:51:22superiority and that looks much more
- 00:51:24holistic at our brand uh our brand
- 00:51:26perform performance but always Through
- 00:51:28The Eyes of the consumer so not just
- 00:51:30product superiority that's part of it
- 00:51:32but also um you know the proposition so
- 00:51:35is the marketing campaign and and is it
- 00:51:37clear is it working and is it clear what
- 00:51:39the brand stands for it looks at place
- 00:51:41so is it distributed in the right way
- 00:51:43and does it have the right varieties on
- 00:51:45the Shelf it looks at Price uh does the
- 00:51:48price is the price actually the price
- 00:51:50pack architecture is at a at a good
- 00:51:52place versus competition and I can go on
- 00:51:54so we look at it much more holistic IC
- 00:51:57uh we're looking at in total 21 metrics
- 00:51:59Behind These six PS and we are very
- 00:52:02convinced that by looking more
- 00:52:03holistically and therefore improving the
- 00:52:06execution power in the entire
- 00:52:09organization that that is the recipe for
- 00:52:12Success now if you look at
- 00:52:14competitiveness um you're right uh
- 00:52:16competitiveness on an mat uh basis as I
- 00:52:19explained um and it's what we expected
- 00:52:22this is not something that you turn
- 00:52:23easily certainly not on a global scale
- 00:52:25we're encouraged by some recent
- 00:52:28improvements that we've seen in the in
- 00:52:29the last quarter and we're all you know
- 00:52:32focused on making improvements in the
- 00:52:33second half of the year which we believe
- 00:52:35are are likely to uh to to materialize
- 00:52:38and on uvg Bruno we usually don't
- 00:52:41disclose the breakdown between volume
- 00:52:44and mix but given the fact that we are
- 00:52:45really printing numbers in volumes that
- 00:52:47are very strong I will give you the
- 00:52:50number for the quarter two 75% of the
- 00:52:53contribution of uvg comes from volume
- 00:52:55and 25% from mix our next question comes
- 00:52:59from Jeremy at
- 00:53:04HSBC um hi hi morning Jeremy HSBC here
- 00:53:08um so a couple of questions for me the
- 00:53:10first one is uh just following up on the
- 00:53:13previous question on uh health and
- 00:53:15wellness um could you tell us what the
- 00:53:18health and wellness business
- 00:53:20specifically uh grew at in the quarter
- 00:53:23and the half um and also kind of what
- 00:53:26the scale of that business is on a sort
- 00:53:28of halfe uh basis uh and then the second
- 00:53:31one is on on China um I just not Comon
- 00:53:34to you but it seems as though that
- 00:53:35market has really become very very
- 00:53:38difficult um in the in the course so um
- 00:53:41can you talk a little bit about uh kind
- 00:53:44of you know what you're seeing in the in
- 00:53:45the consumer there uh and whether you
- 00:53:47think that this is going to remain the
- 00:53:49case over the balance of the year uh or
- 00:53:51whether there is any hope that the
- 00:53:53market could start to improve in the
- 00:53:54second half kind of what your your
- 00:53:56current assumptions are for that market
- 00:53:58thanks thanks Jeremy um let me uh first
- 00:54:01talk first talk about health and uh
- 00:54:03health and wellness I mean we are um
- 00:54:06what what we're saying is the
- 00:54:07combination of our health and wellness
- 00:54:08business as well as the um uh Prestige
- 00:54:11Beauty business uh we grew double digit
- 00:54:14in in its combination we we don't
- 00:54:15disclose the the individual ones but um
- 00:54:19I mean we were quite clear that Prestige
- 00:54:21uh Beauty uh you know was was muted uh
- 00:54:24we talked about shopping Behavior and
- 00:54:26consumer behavior in the US particularly
- 00:54:29behind luxury and we are seeing that but
- 00:54:31and fernandoo explained it I think
- 00:54:33before we are we are very excited about
- 00:54:36the the health and our health and
- 00:54:37well-being uh Brands liquid IV uh neutr
- 00:54:41fall and they they they more than
- 00:54:43compensated for that so the combination
- 00:54:45still strong for us and more than 5% of
- 00:54:48our turnover in the in the company um if
- 00:54:51you look at China uh China indeed uh
- 00:54:54muted and Market grow in China is is on
- 00:54:58is is truly on the on the low side um we
- 00:55:01believe that that is not going to be
- 00:55:03obviously forever but um we believe that
- 00:55:07it will take quite a bit before that
- 00:55:09that reboun is you know rather than
- 00:55:11talking sort of about the China Dynamics
- 00:55:13because there's so many and I'm sure you
- 00:55:15you have a very clear view about it your
- 00:55:17yourselves I would like to talk a bit
- 00:55:18about our business you know if you look
- 00:55:20at China as I said we don't have massive
- 00:55:22exposure to to The Prestige or to the
- 00:55:24luxury side of things we are the the
- 00:55:26market leader in hair care with our
- 00:55:28clear brand that's pretty mainstream I
- 00:55:31mean it's sort of on the upper side of
- 00:55:32mainstream uh dirt is good in our home
- 00:55:35care business um you know still still
- 00:55:38really developing and we just introduced
- 00:55:40uh Wonder was we also introducing in
- 00:55:42China uh but if you think of U and if
- 00:55:44you think of nutrition it's primarily
- 00:55:45Our Food Solutions business and we don't
- 00:55:47see major changes in terms of you know
- 00:55:50restaurant visit by the China consumer
- 00:55:53uh at least not in the type of
- 00:55:54restaurants that we Supply to so I feel
- 00:55:56pretty good I mean yeah I feel pretty
- 00:55:59good about our China business it's not a
- 00:56:01fast growth story but it is clearly
- 00:56:03holding um and uh we will continue to to
- 00:56:07invest behind the brands as we have done
- 00:56:09before you know so on an in an organic
- 00:56:12way we will continue to invest we will
- 00:56:14continue to bring Innovation to the
- 00:56:15China market and selectively we will
- 00:56:18introduce some of our Prestige and
- 00:56:19health health and wellness Brands there
- 00:56:21yeah and health and wellness is around
- 00:56:222.5 billion for the year um Neutra fall
- 00:56:25liquid we are in the top 25 rounds of
- 00:56:28the company
- 00:56:29now our next question comes from David
- 00:56:32at Jeff go ahead
- 00:56:34David thanks morning all um two for me
- 00:56:37one on margin broadly and then one one
- 00:56:40specific question on cost saving so just
- 00:56:42on the margin more broadly you obviously
- 00:56:44substantially increased BMI and and R&D
- 00:56:46but this commitment to the 18% margin or
- 00:56:49over 18% margin this year then over 19%
- 00:56:51from what you said earlier is there a
- 00:56:53risk that you should be doing more to
- 00:56:56spend back on BMI and R&D even now to
- 00:56:59try and arrest or improve this this
- 00:57:01these trends that youve struggled with
- 00:57:02on market share and volumes uh for a few
- 00:57:05years now and then are you making how
- 00:57:07are you making that decision on
- 00:57:08short-term pressure to deliver versus a
- 00:57:10long-term Focus how have you made that
- 00:57:12decision in the first half and then with
- 00:57:13your plans in the second half and I
- 00:57:15guess just to just to just to push on
- 00:57:17that as saying you margin wise Beyond
- 00:57:20this year obviously the company was
- 00:57:21looking at over 20% margin back in the
- 00:57:23craft hind approach days of 2017
- 00:57:26is that when you look back on it the
- 00:57:28right ambition for this company was that
- 00:57:30the right thing but it was just
- 00:57:31challenged to get there but that's where
- 00:57:32this company could end up and then the
- 00:57:34second question much shorter uh is just
- 00:57:36on the savings levels in the first half
- 00:57:39uh is that what was that number netwise
- 00:57:41productivity wise was it all in cost of
- 00:57:43good sold and is it all pre the 800
- 00:57:46million program that you talked about in
- 00:57:48the last release thanks so much thanks a
- 00:57:51lot um what I'll take the first part of
- 00:57:53the question Fernando takes the the
- 00:57:55second part of the question I mean you
- 00:57:56know very importantly we have we we
- 00:57:59shying away from an operating margin
- 00:58:01Target I think I was really Keen to to
- 00:58:04change to change that uh in October so
- 00:58:06we're talking you know we talked about
- 00:58:09uh underlying operating profit growth um
- 00:58:12and initially in in our in our guidance
- 00:58:15and um you know that's really what we
- 00:58:16want to stick to stick to so you know
- 00:58:18it's it's super important that that we
- 00:58:21talking about profit growth and not
- 00:58:22about an an operating margin Target for
- 00:58:24the reason that you talked about you
- 00:58:26know we we're seeing good gross margin
- 00:58:28expansion but we're keen to continue to
- 00:58:30invest behind Our Brands and I think you
- 00:58:32know that's something that is a bit of a
- 00:58:34journey you know we increased 180 basis
- 00:58:36points uh already in the first half
- 00:58:39we're now at 15.1% of of turnover and
- 00:58:41that represented an increase of 700
- 00:58:43million euro so quite sub substantially
- 00:58:46and yes for the second half as Fernando
- 00:58:49has has explained uh before we do see
- 00:58:51opportunities to uh to to spend you know
- 00:58:54to increase our spend but it has to go
- 00:58:56behind strong plans you know we're not
- 00:58:59we're not looking for a particular um
- 00:59:02brand and marketing Investments
- 00:59:03percentage as turnover we don't have a
- 00:59:05Target percentage there we want to make
- 00:59:07we want to look at hey where do we have
- 00:59:09momentum where do we have strong plans
- 00:59:11and then we will continue to invest
- 00:59:13behind it so we're not afraid at all to
- 00:59:15spend but we're not spending for the
- 00:59:18sake of spending I I guess that's the
- 00:59:20message that we want to give and we're
- 00:59:22not looking at a particular underlying
- 00:59:24operating margin Target or guidance that
- 00:59:27we want to uh to to give today yeah as a
- 00:59:31reminder 40% of the gross margin
- 00:59:33expansion was allocated to increase
- 00:59:35investment in our brand so in the in the
- 00:59:37first half you know and as I H said said
- 00:59:40you know is we do it behind 85% in our
- 00:59:43power Brands um incrementally spending
- 00:59:47and we do it behind a very focused
- 00:59:48Innovation plan on productivity we
- 00:59:50announc in mid-march an 800 million plan
- 00:59:53of uh Savings in general overhead and
- 00:59:56supply chain overheads uh the plan is in
- 00:59:59motion reg gato our head of supply chain
- 01:00:03and myself are leading this plan
- 01:00:05together we have several several pillars
- 01:00:08on that a clear geographical and
- 01:00:10technological segmentation radical
- 01:00:12standardization of process um leverage
- 01:00:15and amplification of our cost of our
- 01:00:18operational HS we have Aon in around the
- 01:00:20world there um during the first half we
- 01:00:23have made some progress uh but basically
- 01:00:26I would say of the 800 million you can
- 01:00:28say that only 5 to 10% it has been
- 01:00:30implemented until now um we have kickoff
- 01:00:33consultation process in Europe on July
- 01:00:35the 10th we are working in cooperation
- 01:00:37with the European war council on that
- 01:00:39and we are doing really good progress um
- 01:00:42you will see the benefits of
- 01:00:44productivity really coming more uh in
- 01:00:472025 than during this
- 01:00:49year and I'm beyond that of course next
- 01:00:53question is from Sarah Simon at Morgan
- 01:00:55stany go ahead
- 01:01:01um hi sorry I have a couple of questions
- 01:01:04um on Personal Care you previously
- 01:01:06alluded to the desire to premiumize um
- 01:01:09and you'd said that you weren't sure
- 01:01:12whether you know the existing brands are
- 01:01:14the right place to do that given the
- 01:01:16sort of slowdown in Prestige Beauty are
- 01:01:18you still focused on premiumization in
- 01:01:20personal care and if so can you give us
- 01:01:23a kind of update on what you're thinking
- 01:01:25and then on China um B2B uh generally is
- 01:01:29more of a kind of lagging business than
- 01:01:31b2c so I'm just wondering if there is
- 01:01:33any risk um on that uh nutrition uh in
- 01:01:37terms of the services business and
- 01:01:39thoughts on that and then finally just
- 01:01:40in terms of we were thinking about zero
- 01:01:43to 100 on the net productivity in the
- 01:01:46cost of good Souls where would you say
- 01:01:48you are uh as of H1 in terms of that
- 01:01:51kind of zero to 100 uh range thanks
- 01:01:55thanks sah I'll take the first uh the
- 01:01:57first two questions and um Fernando will
- 01:01:59talk about net productivity um you know
- 01:02:01when it comes to the desire to
- 01:02:02premiumize yes that that continues to be
- 01:02:05there you know we're as I as I said
- 01:02:06before we are seeing uh some slowdown in
- 01:02:09in premium luxury in uh in in the US as
- 01:02:13well as in uh in China but we don't
- 01:02:15believe that is that is in itself is
- 01:02:17structural um you know I think the
- 01:02:19consumer in in the US uh we see a strong
- 01:02:23demand actually in a segment that we
- 01:02:25would call Mass Prestige so that is
- 01:02:27between that premium luxury and uh and
- 01:02:29and mainstream uh so the consumer is
- 01:02:32still is still really you know looking
- 01:02:34for for brands that provide that bit of
- 01:02:36extra you know that bit of extra in
- 01:02:38terms of experience in terms of
- 01:02:40convenience um and and and particularly
- 01:02:42in the personal care and in the beauty
- 01:02:44categories so yes uh when you look at
- 01:02:47our Innovation so we just um entered the
- 01:02:49market with a whole body deodorant
- 01:02:51that's more under the dove brand so that
- 01:02:54is more in that uh in that sector M shea
- 01:02:56moisture um a very important Hair Care
- 01:02:58brand for us in North America is is more
- 01:03:01in that segment so and we premiumize
- 01:03:04we're premiumize there we also upgraded
- 01:03:06our treatments and styling uh uh range
- 01:03:09under the Tres brand uh in in a bit more
- 01:03:12premium way so yes we look we look for
- 01:03:14that premiumization but of course with
- 01:03:16Our Brands you do that gradually um and
- 01:03:20hey when the right opportunity comes
- 01:03:22along we will also look inorganically uh
- 01:03:24so we believe long term that trend is
- 01:03:26very important North American Market
- 01:03:29Europe um and and and for the short term
- 01:03:32as we talked about China a few times uh
- 01:03:34probably not so much that's a good
- 01:03:35bridge I think to the to the to the
- 01:03:37nutrition question that you asked yes
- 01:03:39usually B2B is lagging that is that is
- 01:03:41correct I think if I look at the
- 01:03:43delivery of of our uh products you know
- 01:03:46think of cooking aids to to restaurants
- 01:03:49um you know more mainstream restaurants
- 01:03:51you know we're not yet seeing that
- 01:03:52slowdown Our Food Solutions business is
- 01:03:54still high single digit up in uh in
- 01:03:57China and um yeah look even over the
- 01:04:00last couple of weeks uh we're not seeing
- 01:04:03a major change in that behavior but we
- 01:04:05stay of course very close to it uh for
- 01:04:07for for sure Pando yeah when it comes to
- 01:04:10net productivity and our cost of good
- 01:04:12Souls you know I believe that there are
- 01:04:14two fundamental components that we have
- 01:04:15mentioned many many many times one is
- 01:04:18the interventions that we are doing in
- 01:04:19the value chain of some of our key
- 01:04:20materials you know I mentioned before
- 01:04:23the example of sarfa for example in the
- 01:04:25US
- 01:04:26in which we are really integrating
- 01:04:28vertically there to ensure that we don't
- 01:04:30have any kind of material disadvantage
- 01:04:32versus key competitors in in in PC and
- 01:04:36and Beauty liquids but there are many
- 01:04:38other extremes of work in in value
- 01:04:41change of materials in which we are
- 01:04:42working when it comes to production cost
- 01:04:45and logistic cost uh as I mentioned
- 01:04:47before we are allocating more than 50%
- 01:04:49of our capex to this kind of
- 01:04:51initiatives uh if you think in a logical
- 01:04:56I would say payback period of three to
- 01:04:57four years you know you can make your
- 01:04:59MTH about what is the the kind of
- 01:05:01ambition we have in terms of gross
- 01:05:02margining Improvement in this kind of
- 01:05:04area I know I will not give you now a
- 01:05:06percentage of where we are in terms of
- 01:05:09uh delivery versus our plans we look at
- 01:05:11this as a Continuum and we will try to
- 01:05:14do it quarter in quarter
- 01:05:15out our final question comes from fulio
- 01:05:19at barenberg go ahead for
- 01:05:21view yes good morning and thank you for
- 01:05:24taking my uh my questions I've just a
- 01:05:26couple of quick ones the first one is on
- 01:05:28the gross margin development I was just
- 01:05:29wondering if you can share some comments
- 01:05:31on how this progressed for the power
- 01:05:33Brands given that these are the um
- 01:05:36products that have been receiving more
- 01:05:38more of the incremental allocation of of
- 01:05:40Investments and then my second question
- 01:05:43is on Europe uh I mean Europe has been
- 01:05:45stronger than expected for you guys but
- 01:05:47also some of your peers can you maybe
- 01:05:49just give us a quick outline of your
- 01:05:52expectations for the European consumer
- 01:05:54um as we look ahead thank you thank you
- 01:05:57fulio for the for the question um I I'll
- 01:06:00start I'll start with Europe and
- 01:06:02Fernando will take the uh the the gross
- 01:06:04margin question on the on the power
- 01:06:05brand look I think what we're seeing in
- 01:06:07Europe is um you know the the consumer
- 01:06:09is responding uh well to uh you know to
- 01:06:13to significant Innovation you know we
- 01:06:16have introduced in Europe uh as we talk
- 01:06:18we've introduced Wonder wash but we've
- 01:06:19also introduced new deodorant varieties
- 01:06:22um in fact our new flavored mayonnaise
- 01:06:25ranges in in Europe are responding very
- 01:06:28well so I think the European consumer
- 01:06:30after a couple of years with high
- 01:06:32inflation and you know having you know
- 01:06:34being more cash trapped and of course
- 01:06:36you know migrating to to to private
- 01:06:37label I think there is there is genuine
- 01:06:39more appetite for for for Meaningful and
- 01:06:43strong Innovation behind Our Brands and
- 01:06:45that is exactly what we what we're doing
- 01:06:47I obviously can't talk about uh I won't
- 01:06:49talk about what what peers are doing but
- 01:06:51overall uh Europe has been pretty stable
- 01:06:53uh for us in the last in the last couple
- 01:06:55months and the growth that we're seeing
- 01:06:57in Europe is primarily behind the
- 01:06:59innovations that I that I talked about
- 01:07:02Fernando on the um uh on the gross
- 01:07:04margin and the power the gross margin
- 01:07:06progression of power brands has been
- 01:07:08very very similar to the one of what of
- 01:07:10the rest of the portfolio but just to
- 01:07:13remind you that our power Brands operate
- 01:07:15at I would say 400 to 500 basis points
- 01:07:17higher gross margin than the rest of the
- 01:07:20portfolio thank you Fernando and thanks
- 01:07:23everyone uh for for joining our call you
- 01:07:25know I think it's important for us that
- 01:07:28um we we have focused so far on delivery
- 01:07:31high quality sales growth and we have
- 01:07:33focused on the expansion of our growth
- 01:07:35margin that is very much at the heart of
- 01:07:36our Growth Action Plan and that enables
- 01:07:39a step up in the investment behind Our
- 01:07:40Brands to improve uh our
- 01:07:42competitiveness and you know we did make
- 01:07:45progress uh on those Ambitions in the
- 01:07:46first half and this continues to be our
- 01:07:48focus in the second half very much
- 01:07:50Guided by the plan that we laid out to
- 01:07:52you uh last year in uh in October we
- 01:07:55believe that the benefits are building
- 01:07:57uh steadily and we are confident that
- 01:07:59these steps will help to transform our
- 01:08:01company over time into a more consistent
- 01:08:04uh and in a higher performing business
- 01:08:06as you know uh we look forward to
- 01:08:08updating you on the progress through the
- 01:08:10rest of the year uh but for now we wish
- 01:08:12you a very good day thanks all for uh
- 01:08:14for dialing
- 01:08:19in thanks for joining and have a good
- 01:08:24day for
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