Scythe & Natural Death

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Summary

TLDRThe video explores the concept of human dignity from the Catholic perspective, emphasizing that all human life is a gift from God and must be respected from conception until natural death. Through an analysis of Neal Shusterman's book 'Scythe,' the speaker contrasts Catholic viewpoints with secular approaches to human dignity in a world that often disregards traditional beliefs. The presentation covered specific life issues like abortion, euthanasia, suicide, and the death penalty, highlighting that all life is valuable and deserves protection. Catholic teachings assert that every person is made in the image of God, which forms the basis for respecting human dignity. The speaker also suggested the church’s willingness to engage with worldly challenges while maintaining that threats to human dignity contradict God's divine plan. Finally, he addressed quality-of-life concerns, supporting life-affirming policies while opposing those that devalue it, such as the death penalty.

Takeaways

  • 🙏 Respecting human dignity is central to Catholic teachings.
  • 📘 The book 'Scythe' challenges traditional views on human dignity.
  • 🤝 Every human is considered made in the image of God.
  • ⚖️ Life must be protected from womb to tomb.
  • 💬 Catholics engage with the world unlike a 'Catholic Amish' view.
  • 🔍 Discussions on life issues include abortion and euthanasia.
  • 🛡️ Human dignity is non-negotiable from a Catholic viewpoint.
  • 🚫 The death penalty is opposed by the Church.
  • 🌱 Life is a gift, not a right, in Catholic understanding.
  • 💔 Suicide is seen as a mental health issue, not a freedom act.

Timeline

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    The discussion revolves around human dignity from a Catholic viewpoint. The speaker uses an analogy of a double image to explore the erosion of basic Catholic understandings in a godless narrative and how it challenges human dignity. They reference Mr. MRA's assertion that the church engages with the world, confronting threats to human dignity. According to Catholic beliefs, every human is created in God's image, and this inherent dignity must be protected. The speaker contrasts Catholic teachings with the perspectives in the book being discussed, suggesting the latter lacks a real understanding of God and humanity.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    The speaker continues by linking the book's narrative to existential questions, emphasizing how life derives meaning from potential loss. Catholic perspectives on life issues, from conception to natural death, are highlighted, including the rejection of abortion and euthanasia, which are seen as threats to human dignity. The speaker mentions John Paul II's "culture of death" and contrasts it with the Catholic "culture of life," asserting that life is not a right but a gift that must be respected regardless of one's abilities or disabilities.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    Catholicism’s emphasis on life as a divine gift is elaborated, extending to issues like euthanasia and suicide. The speaker explains that in Catholic teaching, only God has the authority over life and death. The conversation touches on the dignity of all individuals, even those with guilt, as dignity is God-given. The speaker references Catholic opposition to the death penalty, emphasizing rehabilitation over punishment. The value of life is intrinsically tied to its divine origin, showcasing the interconnectedness and unique value of every human life according to Catholic doctrine.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:07

    The presentation wraps up by relating the book's narrative to Catholic themes of life's value, dignity, and meaning, reiterating the inherent dignity of life as God-given and non-negotiable. There is a brief engagement with the audience, where the speaker reinforces that Catholic views align with the moral teachings discussed. There's a reference to the absence of explicit Catholic values in the book, yet recognition of its engagement with existential themes. Instructions about completing a related math assignment follow.

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Video Q&A

  • What is the main theme of the discussion?

    The discussion focuses on respecting human dignity from a Catholic perspective.

  • How does the Catholic perspective view human life?

    The Catholic perspective views human life as a gift from God, worthy of respect from conception to natural death.

  • How does 'Scythe' relate to the topic?

    'Scythe' explores a world where the existence of God is questioned, challenging Catholic ideas of human dignity and life's meaning.

  • Are there specific life issues mentioned?

    Yes, issues like abortion, euthanasia, suffering, and the death penalty were discussed from a Catholic viewpoint.

  • What does the Catholic Church believe about suicide?

    The Church views suicide as a mental health issue and promotes interventions to help individuals, emphasizing the value and dignity of all life.

  • How does the Catholic Church view the death penalty?

    The Church opposes the death penalty, affirming the dignity of even the guilty as life is a gift from God.

  • What is the significance of human dignity in Catholic teaching?

    Human dignity in Catholic teaching comes from being made in the image and likeness of God, which mandates respect for all life.

  • What challenges does the secular world pose to Catholic views on human dignity?

    The secular world often disconnects from God, challenging the meaning and value placed on life by Catholic teachings.

  • Does the video address any misconceptions about Catholics?

    Yes, it conveys that Catholics engage with worldly questions and values, unlike a secluded view such as the 'Catholic Amish'.

  • What is meant by 'womb to tomb' in the Catholic view?

    'Womb to tomb' expresses the Church's belief in respecting life at all stages, from conception to natural death.

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    just have a seat anywhere but I you
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    ready you ready to go y are you already
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    gone yeah okay so welcome we are going
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    to talk about respecting human
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    dignity specifically the Catholic
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    perspective on that but we kind of
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    talked about this before the taping
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    began if you look at this you see a
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    Double Image here I'm sure a lot of you
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    all have seen this you see that this has
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    a face but you also see that this has a
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    face here if you didn't see that there
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    there it is and notice this is a human
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    face is it is it not do you see the
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    human face and then is this an absent
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    human face is this almost like a ghost
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    what what is this this is a reverse
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    image and if you look at this human face
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    over here this human face it really
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    isn't very particular either it's it's
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    kind of lost its humanity and then the
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    other side
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    definitely has lost this Humanity so the
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    first thing we need to recognize in a
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    scythe world is that they have
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    completely jettison basic Catholic
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    understandings of existence so it is a
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    Godless narrative and that's what's
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    making the possibility of how do we
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    carve out meaning in a world without God
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    thankfully that's not our view because
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    that's not the correct view and Mr MRA
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    is present but he will say this some
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    sometimes students parents will react to
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    some of these summer readings and say
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    those don't really reflect Catholic
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    values we know that and he said this and
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    it's kind of stuck for years he said
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    we're not the Catholic Amish we Engage
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    The World We engage questions and some
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    of the threats to human dignity are
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    still very much threats to human dignity
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    in the world we are occupying where
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    belief in God is still very much the
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    normative understanding that out there
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    so human dignity is not a negotiable
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    Concept in Catholic understanding every
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    human is made in the image and likeness
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    of God and because God exists the
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    natural flow of that allows for the
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    understanding of that dignity to be
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    protected in all aspects of life and
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    we'll get into that in a little bit
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    Scythe really pushes that question
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    beyond the boundaries though that are
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    already set in Catholic teaching so
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    Catholic teaching is not going to budge
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    on
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    that that's wonderful that's one of the
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    strongest things we do is say every life
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    matters but scy says that world doesn't
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    exist anymore that's completely gone now
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    you have zero real understanding of God
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    in the book except that vague sort of
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    monastic stuff what's that's going on
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    with the tonist and that understanding
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    could have been assession I don't know
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    if anybody ever picked up on that but
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    the tonist it's kind of a play on the
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    toist and toist are people who believe
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    in Thomas aquinus is teaching and really
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    follow that so he's got a lot of that
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    interplay and he has not given up the
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    author Shusterman has not given up this
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    idea of image and likeness anybody got
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    an idea of where I see the image and
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    likeness being a real strong binding
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    Force for characters in the
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    book nobody has any
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    guesses Miss bars might she's sitting
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    there processing in the back I was
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    thinking about
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    sura and but I was also thinking about
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    Fair Day MH okay he sees himself in them
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    as as kids is that what and proteges I'm
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    thinking more biological image and like
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    this is that there's my
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    hint who is going to be blackmailed
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    because of his secret and his desire to
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    protect his image and
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    likeness and there's so many characters
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    I had to look up his name too
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    xenocrates so the xenocrates however you
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    say it uh he has the illegitimate
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    daughter
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    Esme and she they figured out that
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    that's his daughter and he wants to
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    protect her even at all he wants to
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    protect himself too you've got both of
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    those themes but you have this
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    understanding of that there is a
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    connection that still has very strong
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    meaning because the sites do really have
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    the ability to inject meaning into life
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    when she can't be resuscitated if she's
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    taken because of their ability to
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    install death so one of the things that
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    he's kind of playing on is
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    how do you derive meaning it has to come
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    from the other side or the reverse image
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    so in order for life to have meaning you
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    have to be able to lose it and I think
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    that's what sort of projects his whole
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    understanding okay so that that's really
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    kind of the connections with the book
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    that I was going for but we do want to
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    make sure we talk about threats to human
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    dignity we're just going to kind of go
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    through this fairly quickly make sure
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    any of these come up because when we
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    talk about these people have different
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    views on these life issues as they go
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    and why the church is resounded to these
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    life issues we will sometimes say that
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    the church supports life from womb to
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    tomb so what aspect of human life is not
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    to be respected in the any of
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    it all human
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    life what about human life that's not so
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    smart we still need to protect that
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    right yes because it has that human okay
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    next slide so when we think about that
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    we
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    are in a culture John Paul the second is
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    going to say that it's a culture of
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    death that we are a culture that doesn't
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    always do that or is it built up to that
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    Scythe has completely become a culture
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    of death and the whole thing is about
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    it's the people who are even doing the
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    power broking are the death Brokers and
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    that
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    understanding of how that's
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    working
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    is I me this is like an apocalyptic
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    almost Vision already happened but we
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    live in a culture where this is still
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    being fought out and the Catholic
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    position is very clear Catholics will
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    not accept abortion they'll not accept
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    euthanasia because natural
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    death is the only real understood way
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    that one can go and that is related to
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    that understanding that God
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    is the Arbiter of all of this existence
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    Point next
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    slide when we're talking about this this
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    also moves into this and this is another
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    play that's in the book this idea of
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    human freedom I have total control of my
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    life now is that true to a degree to a
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    degree I have some control but anybody
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    in this room create himself or
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    herself you didn't have control over
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    over that you are in a
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    contributor that's not a word but you
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    know what I'm saying a contributed
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    existence point that someone else gave
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    you the means through which now parents
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    will also say this kid of mine like
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    where did this come from this is not me
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    you have also become a actor on your own
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    accord which showcases more than just
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    your DNA so one of the things that I
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    think Scythe becomes very interesting in
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    as it rejects it is this mystery of the
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    human person and this notion of the
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    value that comes from who the human
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    person is and that
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    that's that's one of the great questions
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    that we're trying to answer the meaning
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    of this participation okay next
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    slide uh when we look at this this
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    distorted view
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    of
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    control we have a sense then that we can
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    make some choices about our our El and
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    about others that are not going to
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    necessarily be true that we are going to
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    be able to do
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    things that are not going to be
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    allowable and we need to recognize that
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    human freedom is a gift from The Giver
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    who gave all of that existence there are
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    couples who try to have children myself
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    being one of them and they we
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    biologically it wasn't
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    happening did the kids come into
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    existence yes but did they come into
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    existence way later than my wife and I
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    wanted them to also yes because do I
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    have total control no but did they show
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    up yes but I I don't have an absolute
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    right to kids in that sense because the
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    understanding of that they are gift
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    can't ever be forgotten and that
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    understanding of life that you have the
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    character and I I I'm bad with the names
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    and there are so many of them but the
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    opposite of Citra what's his name Rowan
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    is that his name Rowan he wants to kill
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    himself and he like makes a game of
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    trying to kill himself because he's
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    already intuited what's the point of any
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    of this if this is just but we would
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    would say the point what's the point of
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    life for
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    Catholics to become the saint yeah well
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    and that means to love right so we can
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    say it in a variety of ways but love
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    love is what's supposed to do that and
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    love is both a binding force and a
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    freeing force and we could go back to
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    the very first picture that we saw of
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    the reverse image okay keep going now
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    this culture of death then means we
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    often times take the easiest way out the
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    easiest way out is lot a lot of times
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    not the best choice okay it is often
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    times one of those things where I'm just
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    sort of you know nominally engaged next
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    slide we are called to promote a culture
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    of life and this is womb to tomb now
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    we've got built-in partner discussions
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    you can do these on your own because
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    let's let's all move along right
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    everybody's ready to go I figured but
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    when we're thinking about this is
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    abortion a life issue yes but also
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    quality of life factors into that
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    understanding of Life issue how are
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    people supposed to be treated in life
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    itself so womb to tomb is not womb and
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    tomb womb to to life issues affect how
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    Grandma and Grandpa are existing too
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    Grandma and Grandpa aren't useful
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    anymore get rid of them no that's not
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    right even if they have Dementia or
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    something like that they still have
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    value and Worth right next slide
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    the first issue is roie Wade roie Wade
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    was passed in 1973 which is the access
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    to abortion that you Pro I mean we're
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    not going to spend a bunch of time on
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    this because this one is kind of Beat to
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    Death you've heard this before but the
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    church is vehemently prolife the church
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    is vehemently understanding that every
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    situation of life is to be be protected
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    because what did I say about life life
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    is a gift not a right okay and that
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    understanding of it's a gift first moves
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    it into a right because who gave the
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    gift God so humans can't take away the
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    right if it's god-given so the right is
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    not what the state has when we think of
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    Rights we think of this is what's gifted
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    To Us by the state no we're gifted the
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    right to life by being made in the image
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    and likeness of God now if God is
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    removed from the equation like in
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    sight it's all up for grabs and that's
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    what you see okay and they're trying to
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    carve out meaning in a world where the
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    meaning has been evacuated thank
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    goodness we don't have that problem we
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    have a centering point which is the
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    faith next slide we're moving into
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    euthanasia as the so womb to tomb
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    abortion is the womb issue tomb issue is
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    the right to die with dignity but not
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    the right to die of I'm going to choose
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    when I go because now we're moving into
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    suicide assisted suicide if this is a
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    gift and I say I don't want the gift I'm
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    also rejecting The Giver who gave me the
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    gift and I'm saying that the experience
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    that lays before me well what if it's
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    suffering any of you all ever suffered
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    and come out the other side and it was
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    better and you had a different view as a
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    result of if you go to the gym don't
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    tell me you don't
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    suffer because you think that go going
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    through that process has an endgame of
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    benefit and we don't know what we're
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    dealing with in terms of these things
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    but we trust The Giver that he
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    knows and in a culture of death we're
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    making the decision in a culture of life
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    we say this is part of the whole process
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    now the church is not saying suffer
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    suffer suffer paliative care making sure
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    that everybody has pain pills you're not
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    going to do extraordinary me means but
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    the understanding that there's something
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    bigger going on here than just my
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    choosing this or that is part of this
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    issue all right next
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    slide we have this homeless man here
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    again this is an offense against life
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    because he shouldn't have to live at
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    this connection point with Humanity
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    basic needs your soup kitchens in town
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    who largely puts those on Catholic
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    Church other churches because they look
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    upon people who are struggling and say
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    that's no way to live and you're
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    not outside of our human connection
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    we're going to feed you clothe you house
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    you as best we can now obviously people
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    push against that and it's a complicated
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    issue but the understanding of that
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    that's our responsibility as their
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    connection Point that's part of this
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    understanding of the human human dignity
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    of life and again that's that issue of
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    suicide we mental illness is real the
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    church has relaxed their understanding
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    of that historically you may even say
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    that was kind of not so great well we
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    come around just like scyth is talking
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    about we come around to advances and we
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    understand how Mental Health Works we
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    understand that suicide is probably not
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    an act of freedom on the part of the
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    person who is uh successfully doing that
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    but we recognize that that's an enormous
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    problem and we we are not encouraging it
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    you're you're not going to hear and
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    because nothing I I love those little
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    tattoos that are the um
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    semicolon it there is life after the
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    semicolon you all know what I'm talking
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    about so there people will get a
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    semicolon tattooed on their body as a
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    memory if they have you know it it it
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    reminds them that where I am in this
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    part of the
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    sentence a
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    semicolon means that there part after
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    that sentence that connects both of them
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    together and that helps sometimes and
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    and and works sometimes to get people
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    through those tough times which we all
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    know exist all right we're keeping going
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    and we're moving toward the end of the
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    presentation but this understanding of
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    suicide we intervene we want to we have
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    a counselor here today who can talk to
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    you about those kinds of things Trinity
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    puts those in place as a Catholic School
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    keep going and then the last one is the
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    death penalty okay
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    uh sister Helen pran is a big proponent
  • 00:16:35
    Catholic nun of anti-death penalty
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    legislation and activism and I've seen
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    her a couple of times and she said and
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    every time that I hear it it reminds me
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    of that gift portion she
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    said even the guilty don't lose their
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    dignity and why don't they lose their
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    dignity because we didn't give it to
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    them
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    we can't take it away because even
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    though they acted outside of the
  • 00:17:05
    parameters that we've talked about about
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    a culture of life even if they've done
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    dastardly
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    things their gift is from the
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    Creator and we don't have the agency or
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    authority to take that gift because we
  • 00:17:20
    didn't give it to
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    them and that includes their
  • 00:17:26
    parents because I told you about our to
  • 00:17:29
    have
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    children as much as my children are my
  • 00:17:34
    biological
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    Offspring they're also their own
  • 00:17:40
    person and that's part of what the
  • 00:17:44
    Catholic Church wants you to recognize
  • 00:17:47
    that there's connection and value and
  • 00:17:50
    all of that rest in the life that you've
  • 00:17:53
    received from The Giver who are both
  • 00:17:56
    your parents and God because you have a
  • 00:17:59
    body that certainly is from your parents
  • 00:18:02
    but you have a soul that's from
  • 00:18:05
    God and that contact Point keeps us
  • 00:18:10
    together so even the people who've done
  • 00:18:13
    the most awful things the church is very
  • 00:18:15
    much or they need to be re you know
  • 00:18:18
    brought in and and and rehabilitated as
  • 00:18:21
    best they can be as as it goes but it's
  • 00:18:25
    not your job to determine their end of
  • 00:18:28
    life life that's for God Alone to do so
  • 00:18:32
    that's basically the end of the Catholic
  • 00:18:34
    understandings of the different life
  • 00:18:36
    events if you all have questions I'll be
  • 00:18:37
    happy to answer them I thought Scythe
  • 00:18:39
    was a pretty good book uh I enjoyed it
  • 00:18:42
    uh and and Mr Mar's here we he asked me
  • 00:18:44
    about he didn't read it and he said the
  • 00:18:46
    premise seems awful anti-catholic I said
  • 00:18:49
    well there's not a shred of Catholicism
  • 00:18:51
    in terms of that but it does play with
  • 00:18:53
    the ideas of Catholicism and it does ask
  • 00:18:56
    the big questions of what saym is asking
  • 00:19:00
    it through its sort of dystopian
  • 00:19:03
    understanding of the future and notice
  • 00:19:05
    the Thunderhead is is replacing God in
  • 00:19:08
    the absence of God something will
  • 00:19:09
    replace
  • 00:19:11
    God all right any questions anybody hand
  • 00:19:14
    didn't I do the best you've ever seen
  • 00:19:17
    that's
  • 00:19:18
    what excellent job you all list if you
  • 00:19:21
    have questions I'll be happy to try and
  • 00:19:23
    take some but it's pretty
  • 00:19:24
    straightforward and and and we just need
  • 00:19:27
    to make sure we re iterate the Catholic
  • 00:19:30
    Viewpoint and and which is the right
  • 00:19:34
    Viewpoint yes can I also
  • 00:19:38
    say this is the math assignment if you
  • 00:19:42
    all don't know what it is this is the
  • 00:19:44
    reflection part so you've done half of
  • 00:19:47
    the job the other half is to complete
  • 00:19:49
    this and make sure you turn it into your
  • 00:19:51
    math does everybody understand that if
  • 00:19:55
    it if you this should be posted in your
  • 00:19:57
    um
  • 00:19:59
    under your math class but if it's if you
  • 00:20:00
    want a hard copy you can come get one on
  • 00:20:02
    your way out
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    okay and that's it
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