Elon Musk | All-In Summit 2024
Summary
TLDRElon Musk, after buying Twitter for $44 billion, is navigating significant challenges, particularly with Tesla's shares plummeting over 30% since his acquisition of the social media company. His entrepreneurial journey is marked by erratic yet successful ventures, such as launching rockets with SpaceX and shattering critics' doubts. Amidst investigations by the Biden Administration into Tesla and SpaceX, Musk remains undeterred. In a candid conversation, Musk discussed the significance of free speech and the concerning global trend towards its suppression. He reflected on government overreach, comparing economic productivity between historical examples like East and West Germany. Elon emphasized the need for reducing unnecessary regulations to spur economic prosperity. As the world's richest man, Musk is on track to become the first trillionaire, driven by his relentless pursuit of innovation. His future projects include advancing SpaceX's plans for spacewalks and Mars missions, and developing humanoid robots that could potentially exceed the human population in numbers. Through humor and candid insights, Musk highlighted the potential of AI and robotics to revolutionize industries, envisioning an era of abundance made possible by AI advancements. His optimism is matched by his call for realistic action in addressing overgovernment and enabling swift progress in tech development.
Takeaways
- 🚀 Elon Musk bought Twitter for $44 billion.
- 📉 Tesla shares dropped over 30% since Twitter acquisition.
- 🕵️♂️ Biden administration is investigating Elon Musk.
- 🗣️ Advocates for free speech amidst global suppression trends.
- 🌌 SpaceX aims for first commercial spacewalk.
- 📋 Regulative delays pose challenges to SpaceX's pace.
- 🤖 Developing humanoid robots to outnumber humans.
- 🔧 Dojo aims to be a leading training computer.
- ⚖️ Criticizes overregulation hindering economic growth.
- 🌐 Envisions a tech-driven future of abundance and innovation.
Timeline
- 00:00:00 - 00:05:00
Elon Musk's acquisition of Twitter has been tumultuous, affecting Tesla's stock significantly. His next steps remain uncertain, and his behavior has been described as erratic. There are growing concerns about his dealings with other countries, leading to investigations from the U.S. government. Nonetheless, Musk's track record of overcoming obstacles is praised.
- 00:05:00 - 00:10:00
Musk's vision for a future among the stars fuels his ambitions despite skepticism. His leadership style, challenging his teams to achieve the impossible, is seen as a model by many executives. Recent successes in SpaceX reinforce his reputation as a visionary possibly on track to become the world's first trillionaire. His resilience under pressure is admired.
- 00:10:00 - 00:15:00
In an exchange about free speech, Musk highlights the global challenges of maintaining it, criticizing instances where people are jailed for online expressions. His stance is that platforms should adhere to local laws but not impose censorship beyond what's illegal. He stresses the importance of public dialogue and warns against authoritarian tendencies.
- 00:15:00 - 00:20:00
Musk discusses ongoing issues with Brazil, emphasizing the need to respect local laws while facing misunderstandings about their compliance. As a friend expresses concern for his safety when visiting volatile countries, Musk downplays personal risk but acknowledges the seriousness of international pressures and regulatory challenges that he faces.
- 00:20:00 - 00:25:00
Musk addresses recent calls for his imprisonment by some media outlets, which accuse him of allowing harmful dialogue on Twitter. He rebuffs these as attacks on free speech, implying that those advocating for his jailing aim to suppress inconvenient truths and maintain control over public discourse.
- 00:25:00 - 00:30:00
Continuing his critique on regulation, Musk argues for thoughtful reform to prevent bureaucratic overreach, citing examples like the inefficiencies in California's infrastructure projects. He suggests that excessive regulations stifle economic progress and stresses the need for a balance that promotes innovation without compromising safety.
- 00:30:00 - 00:35:00
Musk is quizzed on his possible role in government if Trump were elected, indicating that a focused effort could significantly reduce governmental inefficiency. However, he admits the transition would require careful management to avoid economic shock. His ambitious vision includes vast economic prosperity resulting from deregulation and a shift of roles from public to private sectors.
- 00:35:00 - 00:40:00
Musk discusses SpaceX's upcoming projects, expressing excitement about a major private spacewalk mission. The conversation touches on regulatory hurdles for SpaceX's Starship program, criticizing the slower bureaucratic processes that hinder progress. Musk dreams of a future where humanity deeply integrates with space exploration.
- 00:40:00 - 00:45:00
Speculating on the future of AI and robotics, Musk envisions a world with vast economic growth driven by AI's capabilities. He argues that AI will make goods and services essentially abundant, but notes potential challenges in finding purpose in a world where AI outperforms human labor. Despite possible risks, he remains optimistic about AI’s benefits.
- 00:45:00 - 00:50:00
The discussion shifts to Musk's Optimus project—humanoid robots designed to assist in various tasks. He sees robots as potentially outnumbering humans, providing companionship, and handling routine chores. Musk outlines a strategy to reduce production costs, suggesting robots could become widely affordable, significantly altering daily life.
- 00:50:00 - 00:55:00
Musk shares insights on Tesla's AI advancements, highlighting its emphasis on real-world problem-solving with vast amounts of data. He details Tesla's custom-designed chips for in-vehicle AI, which outperform available competitors. His overview suggests a strategic positioning in AI and robotics, aiming to innovate beyond mere software advancements.
- 00:55:00 - 01:00:00
Jokingly reflecting on his appearance on Saturday Night Live, Musk narrates behind-the-scenes anecdotes and skits that were cut from the airing. He describes the experience as liberating and fun, highlighting his often misunderstood humorous side. This section offers a glimpse into the human side of Musk amid his high-profile business activities.
- 01:00:00 - 01:06:52
The video concludes with a light-hearted tone as Musk and the hosts reminisce about humorous events and moments of personal enjoyment. They reveal Musk's capacity for humor and the need for levity amidst his intense professional life. Overall, the discourse emphasizes Musk's complex persona as both a business magnate and an individual with relatable, human attributes.
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Video Q&A
How much did Elon Musk buy Twitter for?
He bought Twitter for $44 billion.
What challenges has Elon Musk faced with Tesla since acquiring Twitter?
Tesla's shares have plummeted more than 30% since he took over Twitter.
What investigations is the Biden Administration conducting on Elon Musk?
The Biden Administration is conducting its second investigation involving Tesla and SpaceX in less than a week.
What is Elon Musk's stance on free speech?
Elon Musk emphasizes the importance of free speech and is concerned about global efforts to suppress it.
What is SpaceX's recent achievement?
SpaceX is launching the first commercial spacewalk and aims to achieve the highest altitude since Apollo missions.
What challenges are associated with building rockets according to Elon Musk?
Musk mentions regulatory approval delays as a significant challenge, stating rockets are being built faster than paperwork is processed.
What is Musk's vision for AI and robotics?
He envisions a future where humanoid robots are more numerous than humans and can perform various tasks, enhancing productivity.
What role does Elon Musk anticipate for Dojo?
Elon Musk suggests that Dojo could become a powerful training computer, comparable to the best servers currently available.
How does Musk view overregulation?
He believes overregulation stifles progress and emphasizes reducing unnecessary regulations for economic prosperity.
What is Elon Musk's opinion on the balance between government regulation and economic growth?
Musk advocates for streamlining regulations and reducing government size to enhance prosperity and productivity.
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- 00:00:03after buying Twitter for $44 billion
- 00:00:06must time as CEO has been a whirlwind
- 00:00:09shares of must other major company Tesla
- 00:00:12have plummeted more than 30% since he
- 00:00:14took over
- 00:00:15Twitter as is often the case his next
- 00:00:18move is unclear I go as far to say that
- 00:00:21he's demonstrating some erratic Behavior
- 00:00:24go [ __ ]
- 00:00:26yourself is that
- 00:00:28clear I hope it is
- 00:00:31hey Bob here in the
- 00:00:33audience Elon musk's cooperation Andor
- 00:00:38relationships with other countries is
- 00:00:42worthy of being looked at the Biden
- 00:00:44Administration has just announced its
- 00:00:46second investigation in the Elon Musk in
- 00:00:48less than a week both the Tesla and
- 00:00:50spaceex there's a product road map that
- 00:00:52they're on and that whether Elon is in
- 00:00:55the building or not is not going to
- 00:00:57impact the plan that they have
- 00:01:02people said he'd never get the rocket in
- 00:01:03space he did that people said the road
- 00:01:05here would never get delivered he did
- 00:01:07that people said he'd never get a
- 00:01:08hundred of them done he's got 200 done
- 00:01:11as an entrepreneur you can't listen to
- 00:01:12the noise and you certainly can't listen
- 00:01:14to losers who have never accomplished
- 00:01:16anything with their life who are
- 00:01:17obsessing about you
- 00:01:18[Music]
- 00:01:22please we're out there among the stars
- 00:01:25and we're a multiplet species across
- 00:01:27many planets and many Star systems
- 00:01:33[Music]
- 00:01:36this is a great future and that's what
- 00:01:39we should strive
- 00:01:40for T customer support At Your
- 00:01:44Service nearly every VC I speak with
- 00:01:47every CEO is looking to elon's behavior
- 00:01:49and saying that's a model for how you
- 00:01:51can challenge your team to achieve the
- 00:01:53impossible in an impossibly difficult
- 00:01:56environment and you can see those git
- 00:01:58fins on your left hand screen rotating
- 00:02:00and turning to guide the booster and
- 00:02:02there's that Landing
- 00:02:05B Landing GN just begun and you can see
- 00:02:09the water below and we have FL
- 00:02:16down what an
- 00:02:20incredible he's just a Visionary like
- 00:02:22I've never seen how on Earth would you
- 00:02:25bet against him Elon seems to be on
- 00:02:27track to be not only the world's richest
- 00:02:29man but the world's first trillionaire
- 00:02:31Elon basically has had over the last 10
- 00:02:34or 15 years an incredible amount of
- 00:02:36challenges that he's overcome probably
- 00:02:38had to deal with stuff that most of us
- 00:02:40would have broken under and he just
- 00:02:42fought through it and the guy just
- 00:02:44basically bended all the haters until he
- 00:02:47crushed their souls and I just think
- 00:02:49that that's incredible
- 00:02:51[Music]
- 00:03:00the greatest
- 00:03:01entrepreneur this generation Elon
- 00:03:05Musk hey
- 00:03:10guys grab my
- 00:03:14stuff there I'm gonna yep I'm going to
- 00:03:17take this all
- 00:03:20right want to do this thanks for taking
- 00:03:22the
- 00:03:23[Laughter]
- 00:03:25time how um how you doing brother
- 00:03:30you keep him
- 00:03:31busy yeah I
- 00:03:35mean it's rarely a slow
- 00:03:38week I mean in the world as well yeah it
- 00:03:42I mean any given week I it just seems
- 00:03:44like the things getting nuttier it it
- 00:03:46it's definitely a simulation we've
- 00:03:47agreed on this at this
- 00:03:49point I mean well look if if we are in
- 00:03:53some alien Netflix series I think the
- 00:03:54ratings are high yes ratings are High um
- 00:03:59how are the um uh the the freedom of
- 00:04:02speech Wars going um this is a uh you've
- 00:04:06been you've been out War for two years
- 00:04:09now yes uh the price of freedom of
- 00:04:12speech is not cheap is it I think it's
- 00:04:14like 44 billion something like that just
- 00:04:16round numbers give her give or take a
- 00:04:18billion yeah round numbers yeah yeah um
- 00:04:23it's uh it's it's pretty nutty there
- 00:04:25there is like this weird movement to uh
- 00:04:28quell free speech
- 00:04:30uh kind of around the world and um and
- 00:04:33this is something we should be very
- 00:04:34concerned about uh you know you have to
- 00:04:37ask like why was the first amendment
- 00:04:40like a high priority was like number one
- 00:04:42um One is because uh people came from
- 00:04:46countries where if you spoke freely you
- 00:04:49would be imprisoned or killed and they
- 00:04:51were like well we would like to not have
- 00:04:53that here um cuz that was terrible yeah
- 00:04:58and and actually you know there's a lot
- 00:05:00of places in the world right now if you
- 00:05:02if you're critical of the government uh
- 00:05:05you get imprisoned or killed right yeah
- 00:05:08we'd like to not have that are you
- 00:05:11concerned
- 00:05:13that I mean I suspect this is a
- 00:05:15receptive audience to that message yeah
- 00:05:22um you I I think we always thought that
- 00:05:26the West Was the exception to that that
- 00:05:28we knew there were authorit places
- 00:05:30around the world but we thought that in
- 00:05:31the west we'd have freedom of speech and
- 00:05:33we've seen like you said it seems like a
- 00:05:34global movement in Britain you've got
- 00:05:38teenagers being put in prison for memes
- 00:05:41opposing it's like you like to you like
- 00:05:44the Facebook post throw them in the
- 00:05:45prison
- 00:05:47yeah people have got an actual you know
- 00:05:50prison for for like like obscure
- 00:05:53comments on social media not even [ __ ]
- 00:05:55posting yet like not even yeah crazy
- 00:05:59thrown in prison recently I'm like that
- 00:06:01was about I was like what is the massive
- 00:06:05crime that pav in France and then of
- 00:06:08course we got Brazil with judge
- 00:06:11Voldemort that that one seems like the
- 00:06:13one that impacts you the most can you
- 00:06:15what's the latest on
- 00:06:20that well we I guess we are trying to
- 00:06:23figure out uh is there
- 00:06:26some reasonable solution in Brazil uh
- 00:06:30the you know the concern I mean I want
- 00:06:33to just make sure that this is framed
- 00:06:35correctly um and uh you know funny memes
- 00:06:39aside I the the the nature of the
- 00:06:42concern was
- 00:06:43that at least at at excorp we had the
- 00:06:46perception that um we were being asked
- 00:06:50to do things that violated Brazilian law
- 00:06:53so obviously we cannot as an American
- 00:06:56company impose American laws and values
- 00:06:59on other countries um that uh you know
- 00:07:03we wouldn't get very far if we did that
- 00:07:05um but but we do you know think that uh
- 00:07:10if if a country's law laws are a
- 00:07:11particular way and we're being asked to
- 00:07:14what we we think we think we're being
- 00:07:15asked to break them then and and be
- 00:07:18silent about it then obviously that is
- 00:07:20no good so so I just want to be clear
- 00:07:23because thetime sometimes comes across
- 00:07:26as uh elon's trying to just be a crazy
- 00:07:30whatever billionaire and demand
- 00:07:33outrageous things from other countries
- 00:07:36and
- 00:07:37um you know well that is
- 00:07:41true
- 00:07:43um in
- 00:07:45addition there are um other things uh
- 00:07:50that that I think are you know valid
- 00:07:52which is like we we we obviously can't
- 00:07:56uh you know I think any given thing that
- 00:07:58we do at cor we've got to be able to
- 00:08:01explain in the light of day and and not
- 00:08:04feel that it was dishonorable or you
- 00:08:07know we we we did the wrong thing you
- 00:08:09know uh so we don't we that that that
- 00:08:13that was the that that's the nature of
- 00:08:14the concern so we actually are in uh
- 00:08:18sort of discussions with uh the you know
- 00:08:22judicial authorities in in Brazil to try
- 00:08:25to you know run this to ground like uh
- 00:08:30what what's actually going on like if if
- 00:08:32we're being asked to break the law
- 00:08:35Brazilian law then that's that that
- 00:08:37obviously should not be should not sit
- 00:08:38well with the resilient Judiciary and if
- 00:08:42we're not and we're mistaken we'd like
- 00:08:43to understand how we are mistaken I
- 00:08:46think that's a that's a pretty
- 00:08:47reasonable uh position I'm a bit
- 00:08:50concerned as your friend that you're
- 00:08:53going to go to one of these countries
- 00:08:55and I'm going to wake up one day and
- 00:08:56you're going to get arrested and like
- 00:08:58I'm going to have to go bail you out or
- 00:08:59or something like this is feels very
- 00:09:01acute like yes I mean it's not a joke
- 00:09:04now like they're literally saying like
- 00:09:07you know it's not just Biden saying like
- 00:09:08we have to look into that guy now it's
- 00:09:09become quite literal like this I who was
- 00:09:12the guy who just wrote the um was it the
- 00:09:15guardian piece about like oh yeah yeah
- 00:09:18there have been three articles and I
- 00:09:20think in the past three weeks Robert
- 00:09:22Reich but it wasn't just him it was like
- 00:09:24three different articles three different
- 00:09:26articles it doesn't that's a trend
- 00:09:29calling for me to be imprisoned right in
- 00:09:32the in the guardian you know guardian of
- 00:09:35what what are they protecting
- 00:09:37exactly guardian of I don't know of
- 00:09:41authoritarianism yeah guardian of uh
- 00:09:44yeah yeah censorship censorship but but
- 00:09:47the premise here is that you bought this
- 00:09:50thing this online Forum this
- 00:09:52communication platform and you're
- 00:09:53allowing people to use it to express
- 00:09:56themselves therefore you have to be
- 00:09:58jailed
- 00:10:00I don't understand the logic here right
- 00:10:02um there's what do you think they're
- 00:10:03actually afraid of at this
- 00:10:05point what's the motivation here I mean
- 00:10:08I think the if somebody's Afra if
- 00:10:11somebody's sort of trying to push a
- 00:10:13false premise on the world then and then
- 00:10:15that that and that premise can be
- 00:10:18undermined with public dialogue then
- 00:10:20they will be opposed to public Dialogue
- 00:10:22on that premise because they wish that
- 00:10:24false premise to Prevail right um so
- 00:10:27that's I think you know the the issue
- 00:10:30there is uh if they don't like the truth
- 00:10:33uh you know then we want to suppress it
- 00:10:35so now the you know the the the sort of
- 00:10:39the what what we're trying to do with
- 00:10:41excorp uh is uh I distinguish that from
- 00:10:46my son who's also called X yes
- 00:10:49uh you have you have parental goals and
- 00:10:52you have goals everything is just called
- 00:10:54X basically it's very difficult
- 00:10:56disambiguation the sun yeah it's X
- 00:10:58everything um so uh what we're trying to
- 00:11:03do is simply adhere to the uh you know
- 00:11:07the the laws in a in a country um so so
- 00:11:11if something is illegal in the United
- 00:11:13States or if it's illegal in you know
- 00:11:15Europe or Brazil or wherever it might be
- 00:11:19uh then then we will take it down or
- 00:11:20we'll suspend the account because we
- 00:11:23we're not you know there to make the
- 00:11:25laws we but but if speech is not illegal
- 00:11:29then then what are we doing okay now
- 00:11:31we're injecting ourselves in as as a
- 00:11:35sensor and and where does it stop and
- 00:11:37who
- 00:11:38decides so and where where does that
- 00:11:42path lead I think it leads to a bad
- 00:11:44place uh so if the people if in a
- 00:11:49country want the lows to be different
- 00:11:50they should make the lows different but
- 00:11:52otherwise we're going to obey the law in
- 00:11:56each jurisdiction right and some of
- 00:11:57these Europe that's it it's it's not
- 00:11:59more complicated that we're not we're
- 00:12:00not trying to Flat the law to be clear
- 00:12:01about that but we're trying to adhere to
- 00:12:03the law and if the laws change we will
- 00:12:05change and if if the laws don't change
- 00:12:07we we won't we're just literally trying
- 00:12:09to adhere to the law it's pretty pretty
- 00:12:11straightforward there very
- 00:12:13straightforward if somebody doesn't
- 00:12:15thinks we are not adhering to the law
- 00:12:16well they can file a lawsuit Bingo also
- 00:12:19very straightforward I mean there are
- 00:12:21European countries that don't want
- 00:12:22people to promote Nazi propaganda yes
- 00:12:25they have some sensitivity to it well
- 00:12:26it's it is illegal it is illegal in
- 00:12:28those countries in those countries if
- 00:12:30somebody puts that up you take it down
- 00:12:32yes but they typically file something
- 00:12:34and say take down and no in some cases
- 00:12:36it is just um obviously illegal like you
- 00:12:39don't need to file a lawsuit for you
- 00:12:42know if something is just you know
- 00:12:44unequivocally illegal we can literally
- 00:12:46read the law this violates the law you
- 00:12:48know anyone anyone can see that like you
- 00:12:51know you don't need like if if somebody
- 00:12:54is stealing you don't need let me check
- 00:12:55the law on that okay oh no they're
- 00:12:57they're stealing Francisco let's talk
- 00:12:59about so we had we had JD Vance here
- 00:13:02this morning he did a great job um and
- 00:13:05you know one of the things is there's
- 00:13:06this image on acts of like basically
- 00:13:09like you
- 00:13:10Bobby uh Trump and JD are like the
- 00:13:14Avengers I guess and then there's
- 00:13:16another meme where you're in front of a
- 00:13:18desk where it says d o g the department
- 00:13:21of governmental efficiency yes yes I
- 00:13:23posted that one tell us I I made it
- 00:13:26using grock the grock image generator
- 00:13:30and I posted it tell us about put it to
- 00:13:32my profile seat for
- 00:13:35efficiency um how how do you do
- 00:13:38it well I I mean
- 00:13:45I I think with great difficulty uh but
- 00:13:49you know look it's been a long time
- 00:13:51since there was a serious effort to
- 00:13:54reduce the size of government and to um
- 00:13:57remove absurd regulations yeah and you
- 00:14:00know the last time there was a really
- 00:14:01concered effort on that front was Reagan
- 00:14:04in the early 80s so we're 40 years away
- 00:14:06from um a a a a serious effort to remove
- 00:14:10um you know not regulations that don't
- 00:14:14serve the greater good and and reduce
- 00:14:16the size of government and I think it's
- 00:14:18just if we don't do that then what's
- 00:14:21what what's happening is that we get
- 00:14:22regulations and laws accumulating every
- 00:14:25year until eventually everything's
- 00:14:27illegal uh and that's why we can't get
- 00:14:30uh major infrastructure projects done in
- 00:14:31the United States like if you look at
- 00:14:33the absurdity of the California
- 00:14:35highspeed rail I think they theyve spent
- 00:14:36$7 billion and have a 1,600 put segment
- 00:14:39that doesn't actually have rail in
- 00:14:41it I mean your tax dollars at work I
- 00:14:44mean yeah what are we doing that's an
- 00:14:45expensive 1600 fet of concrete you know
- 00:14:49um and and I mean I think it's like if
- 00:14:53you know uh I realize sometimes I'm
- 00:14:56perhaps a little optimistic with
- 00:14:57schedules but uh uh you
- 00:15:01know I mean I wouldn't be doing the
- 00:15:03things I'm doing if I was uh you know
- 00:15:07not an an optimist uh so but but but but
- 00:15:12at the current Trend you know California
- 00:15:14High Street rail might finish sometime
- 00:15:16next
- 00:15:17Century maybe probably not we're just
- 00:15:20we'll have teleportation by that time so
- 00:15:22yeah exactly have ai do everything at
- 00:15:24that point so so so so you I I think you
- 00:15:29really think of um you know the the
- 00:15:31United States and many countries it's
- 00:15:33it's arguably worse than the EU as being
- 00:15:36like galiva tied down by a million
- 00:15:38little strings and like any one given
- 00:15:41regulation is not is not that bad but
- 00:15:44you've got a million of them and um or
- 00:15:46Millions actually and and and then
- 00:15:49eventually you just can't get anything
- 00:15:50done and and this is a this is a massive
- 00:15:53tax on the on the consumer on the people
- 00:15:56uh it's just they don't they don't
- 00:15:57realize that there's this this massive
- 00:15:59tax in the form of irrational
- 00:16:02regulations um I'm going to give you a
- 00:16:04recent uh example that you know is is
- 00:16:08just insane um is that uh like SpaceX
- 00:16:10was fined by the EPA
- 00:16:12$140,000 for um they claimed dumping uh
- 00:16:16portable water on the ground drinking
- 00:16:19water so and we're like uh this is that
- 00:16:22star base and and we're like it's we're
- 00:16:23in a TR tropical uh thunderstorm region
- 00:16:26um that stuff comes from the sky all the
- 00:16:28time
- 00:16:29time and
- 00:16:31um and there was no actual harm done you
- 00:16:33know it was just water to cool the the
- 00:16:35the launch pad during uh lift off and um
- 00:16:39there's zero harm done like and they're
- 00:16:40like they agree yes there's zero harm
- 00:16:42done we're like okay so there's no harm
- 00:16:43done and um you want us to pay $140,000
- 00:16:47fine it's like yes because you didn't
- 00:16:48have a
- 00:16:49permit okay we didn't know there was a
- 00:16:52permit needed for zero har fresh water
- 00:16:55being on the ground in a place that
- 00:16:57where fresh water falls from the sky all
- 00:16:58the
- 00:16:59time got it next to the ocean next to
- 00:17:03the ocean cuz there's a little bit of
- 00:17:04water there too yeah I mean sometimes it
- 00:17:06rain so much the the roads are flooded
- 00:17:08so we're like you
- 00:17:09know how does this make any sense yeah
- 00:17:13and and then like then then they were
- 00:17:15like well we're not going to process any
- 00:17:16more of your any more of your
- 00:17:18applications for launch for Starship
- 00:17:19launch unless you pay this $140,000 they
- 00:17:21just ransomed us and we're like okay so
- 00:17:24we' paid $140,000 but it was a it's like
- 00:17:27this is no good I mean at this wait
- 00:17:29we're never going to get to Mars I mean
- 00:17:31that's
- 00:17:32the that's the confounding part here
- 00:17:34yeah is we're acting against our own
- 00:17:37self-interest you know when you look at
- 00:17:40we do have to make putting aside fresh
- 00:17:43water but hey you know they the rocket
- 00:17:45makes a lot of noise so I'm I'm certain
- 00:17:48there's some complaints about noise once
- 00:17:50in a while but sometimes you want to
- 00:17:51have a party or you want to make
- 00:17:52progress and there's a little bit of
- 00:17:53noise therefore you know we we trade off
- 00:17:56a little bit of noise for massive
- 00:17:58progress or even even fun so like when
- 00:18:01did we stop being able to make those
- 00:18:02tradeoffs but talk about the difference
- 00:18:05between California and Texas uh where
- 00:18:07you and I now reside um Texas you were
- 00:18:11able to build the gigafactory I remember
- 00:18:14when you got the plot of land and then
- 00:18:16it seemed like it was less than two
- 00:18:18years when you had the party to open it
- 00:18:21yeah from St construction um to
- 00:18:25completion uh was 14 months 14 14 months
- 00:18:30is there anywhere on the planet that
- 00:18:31would go faster is like China faster
- 00:18:32than that uh China was 11 months got it
- 00:18:36so Texas China 11 and 14 months
- 00:18:40California how many months and just give
- 00:18:42you a sense of size the T A gigafactory
- 00:18:46in China is three times the size of the
- 00:18:47Pentagon which was the biggest building
- 00:18:49in America uh no there are bigger
- 00:18:50buildings but the pentagon's a pretty
- 00:18:51big one yeah or it was the biggest in
- 00:18:53units in units of Pentagon it's like
- 00:18:55three okay three pentagons and Counting
- 00:18:58yeah got it in 14 months um the just the
- 00:19:04just the regulatory approvals in
- 00:19:06California would have taken two
- 00:19:08years yeah so that's that's the issue
- 00:19:11where where do you think the regulation
- 00:19:13helps like for the people that will say
- 00:19:15we need some checks and balances we
- 00:19:17can't have some because for every good
- 00:19:18actor like you there'll be a bad actor
- 00:19:20so where is that line then yeah I mean I
- 00:19:22have a sort of you
- 00:19:25know in in sort of doing sensible
- 00:19:29regulation and um reduction in the size
- 00:19:32of government the is is just like be
- 00:19:34very public about it and say like which
- 00:19:36of these rules do you if the public is
- 00:19:38really excited about a rule and wants to
- 00:19:40keep it we'll just keep it and and here
- 00:19:42the thing about the rules if if like if
- 00:19:44the rule is um you know turns out to be
- 00:19:47a bad we'll just put it right back okay
- 00:19:50and then you know problem solved it's
- 00:19:51like it's easy to add rules but we don't
- 00:19:53actually have a process for getting rid
- 00:19:55of them that's the issue there's no
- 00:19:57garbage collection for rules
- 00:20:00um when we were um watching you work
- 00:20:04David and I and Antonio um in that first
- 00:20:07month at Twitter which was all hands on
- 00:20:09deck and you were doing zerob based
- 00:20:11budgeting you really quickly got the
- 00:20:14cost under control and then miraculously
- 00:20:16everybody said this site will go down
- 00:20:19and you added 50 more features so maybe
- 00:20:22explain because this is the first time
- 00:20:24yeah there were like so many articles
- 00:20:26like the that this this is Twitter is
- 00:20:29Dead Forever there's no way it could
- 00:20:30possibly even continue at all it was
- 00:20:33almost like the Press was roting for you
- 00:20:34to let's write theit here's the orbitary
- 00:20:37uh they were all saying their goodbyes
- 00:20:38on Twitter remember that yeah yeah yeah
- 00:20:40they were all leaving and saying their
- 00:20:41goodbyes cuz the site was going to melt
- 00:20:43down and yeah totally fail and uh all
- 00:20:45the journalists left yeah and which is
- 00:20:49if you ever want to like hang out with a
- 00:20:50bunch of Hall monitors oh my God threads
- 00:20:52is amazing every time I go over there
- 00:20:54and post they're like they they're
- 00:20:57really triggered but I mean if you like
- 00:20:59being condemned repeatedly then you know
- 00:21:02for reasons that make no sense then
- 00:21:03threads is the way to go yeah it's
- 00:21:05really it's it's the most miserable
- 00:21:07place on Earth if Disney's the happiest
- 00:21:10this is the anti- Disney but if we were
- 00:21:12to go into government you went into the
- 00:21:14Department of Education or Pi pick the
- 00:21:16department you've worked with a lot of
- 00:21:18them actually sure you can't go in there
- 00:21:20in zerob based budget okay we get it but
- 00:21:23if you could just pair two three four 5%
- 00:21:27of those organizations
- 00:21:29what kind of impact would that
- 00:21:31have yeah I mean I think we' need to do
- 00:21:34more than that I think ideally
- 00:21:36compounding every year 2 3% a year I
- 00:21:39mean it would be better than what's
- 00:21:40happening
- 00:21:42now yeah I look I think we' we' um you
- 00:21:48know
- 00:21:49uh if if Trump wins and and obviously I
- 00:21:53suspect there are people with mixed
- 00:21:54feelings about whether that should
- 00:21:55happen but uh but if but we do have an
- 00:21:59opportunity uh to do kind of a once in
- 00:22:02a-lifetime deregulation and reduction in
- 00:22:04the size of government um because
- 00:22:06because the other thing besides the
- 00:22:07regulations um America is also going
- 00:22:09bankrupt extremely quickly um and and
- 00:22:13nobody seems to everyone seems to be
- 00:22:14sort of whistling past the graveyard on
- 00:22:16this one um but they're all they're all
- 00:22:19grabbing the silverware everyone's stuff
- 00:22:21in their pockets in the silverware
- 00:22:22before this the Titanic s likeor well
- 00:22:25you know the the defense department
- 00:22:27budget is a very big budget okay it's a
- 00:22:30trillion dollars a year DOD Intel it's
- 00:22:33Trill a trillion dollars um and interest
- 00:22:37payments on the national debt just
- 00:22:39exceeded the defense department budget
- 00:22:42they're over a trillion dollars a year
- 00:22:45just in interest and Rising we're we're
- 00:22:48adding a trillion dollars to theet to
- 00:22:51our debt which our you know kids and
- 00:22:54grandkids are going to have to pay
- 00:22:55somehow
- 00:22:57um you know every every 3 months and
- 00:23:01then soon it's going to be every two
- 00:23:02months and then every month and then the
- 00:23:04only thing we'll be able to pay is
- 00:23:06interest yeah and and if if this is it's
- 00:23:09just you know it's just like a person at
- 00:23:11scale that has racked up too much credit
- 00:23:15card debt um and
- 00:23:18uh this this is not this does not have a
- 00:23:22good
- 00:23:23ending so we have to reduce the spending
- 00:23:26let me ask one question because I've
- 00:23:27brought this up lot and the
- 00:23:29counterargument I hear which I disagree
- 00:23:31with um but the counterargument I hear
- 00:23:32from a lot of politicians is if we
- 00:23:35reduce spending because right now if you
- 00:23:36add up federal state and local
- 00:23:39government spending it's between 40 and
- 00:23:4150% of GDP so nearly half of our economy
- 00:23:46is supported by government spending and
- 00:23:48nearly half of people in the United
- 00:23:50States are dependent directly or
- 00:23:51indirectly on government checks and
- 00:23:54either through contractors that that the
- 00:23:56government pays or they're employed by
- 00:23:57government um entity so if you go in and
- 00:24:00you take too Harden acts too fast you
- 00:24:03will have significant contraction job
- 00:24:06loss and recession what's The Balancing
- 00:24:09Act Elon just thinking realistically
- 00:24:11because I'm 100% on board with you the
- 00:24:14steps the next set of steps however
- 00:24:16assume Trump wins and you become the the
- 00:24:20chief uh doe um uh dog uh do
- 00:24:27G how how like yeah and I think the
- 00:24:30challenge is how quickly can we yeah how
- 00:24:31quickly can we go in how quickly can
- 00:24:33things change and without
- 00:24:38without I want that on my business card
- 00:24:41yeah without all the Lo without all the
- 00:24:43contraction and
- 00:24:44job yeah so so I guess how do you really
- 00:24:47address it when so much of the economy
- 00:24:48and so many people's jobs and
- 00:24:49livelihoods are dependent on government
- 00:24:52spending well I mean I I do think it's
- 00:24:55it's it's sort of
- 00:24:57um you know it's it's false dichotomy
- 00:24:59it's not like no government spending is
- 00:25:01going to happen um you really have to
- 00:25:03say like is it the right level um and
- 00:25:06just remember that that you know any any
- 00:25:09given person if they are doing things in
- 00:25:12a less efficient organization versus
- 00:25:14more efficient organization their
- 00:25:16contribution to the economy their net
- 00:25:18output of goods and services will reduce
- 00:25:21um I mean you've got a couple of clear
- 00:25:23examples between uh East Germany and
- 00:25:24West Germany North Korea and South Korea
- 00:25:27um I mean North Korea they're starving
- 00:25:29uh South Korea it's like amazing it's
- 00:25:32the future the compounding effect of
- 00:25:33productivity gains yeah yeah it's night
- 00:25:35and day yeah um and so in the north
- 00:25:37North Korea you've got 100% government
- 00:25:39um and in South Korea you've got
- 00:25:41probably I don't know 40% government
- 00:25:43it's not zero U and yet you've got a
- 00:25:45standard of living that is probably 10
- 00:25:46times higher in South Korea at least at
- 00:25:49least exactly um uh and then East and
- 00:25:52West Germany um in West Germany uh you
- 00:25:55you had just thinking in terms of cars I
- 00:25:57mean you had BMW Porsche Audi Mercedes
- 00:26:00um and and East Germany which is a
- 00:26:03random line on a map um you you the the
- 00:26:07car only car you could get was a a
- 00:26:08trabant which is basically a lawn mower
- 00:26:10with a shell on it um and it was
- 00:26:13extremely unsafe you there was a 20-year
- 00:26:18wait so you like you know put your kid
- 00:26:20on the list as soon as they're conceived
- 00:26:23um conceived and and even then only I
- 00:26:26think um you know a quarter of people
- 00:26:29maybe got got this lousy car and the
- 00:26:32same so so that's just an interesting
- 00:26:34example of like basically the same
- 00:26:35people different operating system and
- 00:26:38and it's not like uh West Germany with
- 00:26:40some you know you know a capitalist uh
- 00:26:45Heaven it was it's quite socialist
- 00:26:47actually so uh so when you look you know
- 00:26:51probably it was half half government in
- 00:26:53West Germany and 100% governor in East
- 00:26:56Germany and again sort of a a five to
- 00:26:59like P it call at least a 5 to 10x
- 00:27:01standard of living difference and even
- 00:27:03qualitatively vastly better and and it's
- 00:27:06obviously you know person people have
- 00:27:07these amazingly in this modern era this
- 00:27:09debate as to which system is better well
- 00:27:12I'll tell you which system is better um
- 00:27:14the one that doesn't need to build the
- 00:27:15wall to keep people in okay that's
- 00:27:18that's how you can tell
- 00:27:21okay it's a dead giveaway spoiler alert
- 00:27:25dead giveaway are they climbing the wall
- 00:27:27to get out or come in you have to build
- 00:27:29a barrier to keep people in that is the
- 00:27:32bad system um it wasn't West West berin
- 00:27:36that built the wall okay they were like
- 00:27:38to you know anyone who wants to flee
- 00:27:40West berin go ahead um speaking of walls
- 00:27:42so it you know and and and and if you
- 00:27:44look at sort of the flux of boats from
- 00:27:47Cuba there's a large number of boats
- 00:27:49from Cuba and there's a bunch of free
- 00:27:52boats that you anyone can take to to
- 00:27:55back to Cuba like plenty of seeds is
- 00:27:58like hey wow an abandoned boat I could
- 00:28:00use this boat to go to Cuba where they
- 00:28:02have communism awesome Yes um and and
- 00:28:05and yet nobody nobody picks up those
- 00:28:07boates and and does it amazing um so
- 00:28:11given this a lot of thought yeah wait so
- 00:28:12your point is jobs will be created if we
- 00:28:14cut government spending in half jobs
- 00:28:16will be created fast enough to make up
- 00:28:18for right just the count yes obviously
- 00:28:21you know I'm not suggesting that that
- 00:28:23people you know um have like immediately
- 00:28:26tfed you know tossed out with with no SA
- 00:28:28and and you know can't now can't pay
- 00:28:30their mortgage they you to see some
- 00:28:31reasonable offramp where yeah yeah um so
- 00:28:35reasonable offramp where you know
- 00:28:36they're still um you know earning
- 00:28:39they're still receiving money but have
- 00:28:40like I don't know a year or two to to
- 00:28:42find to find drops in the private sector
- 00:28:44which they will find and then they will
- 00:28:46be in a different operating system um
- 00:28:48again you can see the difference East
- 00:28:50Germany was incorporated into West
- 00:28:51Germany living standards in East Germany
- 00:28:53uh Rose
- 00:28:55dramatically um well so in four years if
- 00:28:58you could shrink the side the size of
- 00:29:00the government with Trump what would be
- 00:29:01a good Target just in terms of like
- 00:29:04ballpark I mean are you trying to get me
- 00:29:05assassinated before this even happens no
- 00:29:09no Piccolo number I mean you know
- 00:29:11there's that old phrase go postal I mean
- 00:29:13it's like they might yeah me so we'll
- 00:29:15keep the post office I mean I'm going to
- 00:29:17need a all a security detail guys yes I
- 00:29:20mean the number of just granted workers
- 00:29:24for former government employees is you
- 00:29:26know
- 00:29:28quite a scary number I mean I might not
- 00:29:29make it you know I was saying low low
- 00:29:31digits every year for four years would
- 00:29:33be palatable yeah and I like your idea
- 00:29:35the thing is that if if it's not done uh
- 00:29:38like if you have a once once in a
- 00:29:40lifetime or once in a generation
- 00:29:41opportunity and you don't take Serious
- 00:29:43action and and then you have four years
- 00:29:46to get it done and then and if it
- 00:29:49doesn't get done then how serious is
- 00:29:51Trump about this like you've talked to
- 00:29:53him about it yeah yeah I think he is
- 00:29:55very serious about it got it um and no I
- 00:29:58I think actually the reality is that if
- 00:30:00we get rid of nonsense regulations and
- 00:30:02shift people from the government sector
- 00:30:05to the private sector we will have
- 00:30:07immense
- 00:30:08Prosperity um and and I think we will
- 00:30:10have a golden age in this country and
- 00:30:13it'll be
- 00:30:14fantastic can we uh can we talk about
- 00:30:19space um you have a bunch of critical
- 00:30:22Milestones coming up um yeah in fact
- 00:30:24there's an important a very exciting
- 00:30:26launch
- 00:30:28that is may be happening tonight so if
- 00:30:31that if the weather is is holding up
- 00:30:32then I'm going to leave here head to
- 00:30:34Cape canaval for the um the the pl stor
- 00:30:38Mission which is a private Mission so
- 00:30:39finded by Dereck um dared isman and he's
- 00:30:43um awesome guy and and there this will
- 00:30:46be the first time uh the first private
- 00:30:49first first commercial space walk um and
- 00:30:51and it be at at the highest altitude uh
- 00:30:55since Apollo so it's the furthest from
- 00:30:57Earth that anyone's
- 00:30:59gone um
- 00:31:03yeah and you what comes after that let's
- 00:31:06assume that's successful and I sure hope
- 00:31:08so
- 00:31:11man um no
- 00:31:15pressure
- 00:31:16um yeah we you know Absolut you know
- 00:31:19astronut prior astronut safety is man if
- 00:31:23I had like all all the all the wishes I
- 00:31:25could say about that would be the one to
- 00:31:27to put on
- 00:31:28so you know space is dangerous um so the
- 00:31:35the yeah the next
- 00:31:37Milestone after that would be the next
- 00:31:40flight of Starship um which um you know
- 00:31:44Starship is the next FL Starship is
- 00:31:46ready to fly we are waiting for
- 00:31:48regulatory
- 00:31:51approval you know yeah it it it it
- 00:31:55really should not be possible to build a
- 00:31:57giant rocket faster than the paper can
- 00:32:01move from one desk to
- 00:32:03[Applause]
- 00:32:08another that stamp is really hard
- 00:32:13approved yeah you ever see that movie
- 00:32:15zootopia you ever see that movie
- 00:32:17zootopia there's like a
- 00:32:20sloth in for the appr yeah accidentally
- 00:32:24tell a joke and and I was like oh no
- 00:32:26this is going to take a long time sorry
- 00:32:28sorry um but yeah zootopia you know you
- 00:32:33know the funny thing is like so I went
- 00:32:34to the
- 00:32:36DMV about I don't know a year later
- 00:32:39after zootopia and to get my whatever
- 00:32:42license renewal and the guy in in an
- 00:32:44exercise of incredible self-awareness
- 00:32:46had the sloth from Utopia in his um in
- 00:32:50his cube in in in his Cube and he was
- 00:32:52actually Swift
- 00:32:54yeah with the with the Mandate beat the
- 00:32:56sloth yeah yeah no personal agency
- 00:32:59personal agency no I mean people like
- 00:33:03think the you know the government is um
- 00:33:07more competent than it than it is I'm
- 00:33:08not saying that there aren't competent
- 00:33:10people in the government they're just in
- 00:33:11an operating system that is inefficient
- 00:33:13um once you move them to a more
- 00:33:14efficient operating system they their
- 00:33:17output is dramatically greater as we've
- 00:33:18seen examp you know when East Germany
- 00:33:21was reintegrated to into with West
- 00:33:23Germany and and and the same people um
- 00:33:27were vastly more prosperous uh with a
- 00:33:29basically half capitalist uh operating
- 00:33:32system
- 00:33:33so um but I
- 00:33:36mean for a lot of people their like the
- 00:33:40maybe most direct experience with the
- 00:33:41government is the DMV um and and then
- 00:33:45the important thing to remember is the
- 00:33:46the government is the DMV at
- 00:33:50scale right that's the government got
- 00:33:53the mental picture how much do you want
- 00:33:54to scale it
- 00:33:58yeah yeah sorry can you go back to
- 00:34:01chim's um uh question on Star so you you
- 00:34:03announced just the other day Starship
- 00:34:05going to Mars in two years and by the
- 00:34:08way huh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and
- 00:34:11then four years for
- 00:34:13crude uh aspirational launch in the next
- 00:34:15window and how much is the government
- 00:34:17involved I'm not saying like say you
- 00:34:19watch by these not you know uh but these
- 00:34:22uh but it based on our current progress
- 00:34:26where with Starship we're able to
- 00:34:28successfully reach oval ofy twice uh we
- 00:34:31were able to achieve soft Landings of
- 00:34:33the the booster and the ship and water
- 00:34:36uh and that's despite the ship having
- 00:34:39you know half its fls cooked off um you
- 00:34:41can see the video on the xplatform is
- 00:34:43quite exciting um so you know we we
- 00:34:47think we'll be able to have to launch
- 00:34:51reliably and repeatedly and quite
- 00:34:53quickly um and the the the fundamental
- 00:34:57holy breakthrough for rocketry for to
- 00:35:00what the fundamental breakthrough that
- 00:35:01is needed for life to become
- 00:35:03multiplanetary is a rapidly reusable
- 00:35:07reliable rocket
- 00:35:10R for a pirate somehow um throw fire in
- 00:35:14there um the so with Starship is the
- 00:35:20first rocket design
- 00:35:24where success is one of the possible
- 00:35:26outcomes with full
- 00:35:28reusability um so you for any given
- 00:35:30project you have to say this is the
- 00:35:32circle so right band diagrams um here
- 00:35:35has a circle and is Success the success
- 00:35:38dot in the circle um is is success in
- 00:35:42the set of possible outcomes that uh you
- 00:35:45know sounds pretty obvious but there are
- 00:35:47often projects where that that is
- 00:35:49success is not in the set of possible
- 00:35:51outcomes um and so so
- 00:35:54Starship not only is fully full
- 00:35:57reusability in the set of possible
- 00:35:58outcomes it it is being proven with each
- 00:36:00launch um and and and I'm confident it
- 00:36:03will succeed it's simply a matter of
- 00:36:05time and you know if if we can get some
- 00:36:11improvement in the speed of Regulation
- 00:36:13we we could actually move a lot faster
- 00:36:15um uh so that would that would be very
- 00:36:19helpful and and in fact if if this if
- 00:36:22something isn't done about um reducing
- 00:36:26regulation and and sort of speeding up
- 00:36:28approvals and to be clear I'm not
- 00:36:30talking about anything unsafe it's
- 00:36:32simply the processing of the safe thing
- 00:36:35can be done at a as as fast as the
- 00:36:38rocket is built not slower then uh then
- 00:36:42then we could become a spacefaring
- 00:36:43civilization and a multiplet species
- 00:36:46ultimate and be out there among the
- 00:36:47stars in the future and
- 00:36:52there's you know it's it's just very
- 00:36:55like it's incredibly important that we
- 00:36:57have things that that we find inspiring
- 00:37:00that you look to the Future and say the
- 00:37:03future is going to be better than the
- 00:37:04past things to look forward to and like
- 00:37:08like kids are a
- 00:37:10good a good way to assess this like what
- 00:37:12are kids fired up about and if you can
- 00:37:15say you know you you could you know you
- 00:37:18could be an Astron on Mars you you could
- 00:37:20maybe one day uh go beyond the solar
- 00:37:23system um we could make Star Trek starf
- 00:37:27Academy real um that is an exciting
- 00:37:31future that is
- 00:37:33inspiring um you know just I mean you
- 00:37:36need things that move your heart right
- 00:37:40um
- 00:37:41yeah [ __ ] yeah [ __ ] yeah let's do it I
- 00:37:47mean like like life can't just be about
- 00:37:49solving one miserable problem after
- 00:37:51another there's got to be things that
- 00:37:53you look forward to as well yeah uh and
- 00:37:55and do do you think you might have to
- 00:37:57move it to a different jurisdiction to
- 00:37:59move faster I've always wondered if like
- 00:38:01what it's rocket technology is
- 00:38:03considered Advanced weapons technology
- 00:38:05so we can't just go do it you know in
- 00:38:07another country yes in it yeah
- 00:38:09interesting and if we don't do it other
- 00:38:10countries could do it I mean they're so
- 00:38:13far behind us but theoretically there's
- 00:38:15a national
- 00:38:17security you know justification here if
- 00:38:20if somebody can put their thinking caps
- 00:38:22on like do we want to have this
- 00:38:23technology that you're building the
- 00:38:25team's working so hard on stolen by
- 00:38:26other countries
- 00:38:27and then you know maybe they don't have
- 00:38:30as much red tape I I wish people were
- 00:38:32trying to steal it um so that no no
- 00:38:36one's trying to steal it it's just
- 00:38:39too this just it's too crazy
- 00:38:42basically um and that's for you yeah
- 00:38:45it's way too crazy El what do you think
- 00:38:47um is going on that led to
- 00:38:51Boeing building the Star Line the way
- 00:38:53that they did they were able to get it
- 00:38:56up
- 00:38:59but not complete but can't complete they
- 00:39:01can't finish can't finish and now you're
- 00:39:04going to have to go up and
- 00:39:06finish um
- 00:39:09um well I mean I think Boeing is a
- 00:39:13company that is you they actually do so
- 00:39:16much business with the government they
- 00:39:17have sort of impedance match to the
- 00:39:19government so they're they're like
- 00:39:21basically one notch away from the
- 00:39:23government maybe two they're not far
- 00:39:25from the government from an efficiency
- 00:39:27stand point because they derive so much
- 00:39:28of the revenue from the government um
- 00:39:31and a lot of people think well SpaceX is
- 00:39:33super dependent on the government and
- 00:39:34actually no most of our revenue is
- 00:39:35commercial um
- 00:39:38so
- 00:39:41um and and and and
- 00:39:44there's I think at least up until
- 00:39:47perhaps recently because they have a new
- 00:39:49CEO who actually shows up in the factory
- 00:39:52yeah um and the the the COO before that
- 00:39:54I think had a degree in accounting and
- 00:39:56and never went to the factory
- 00:39:58and didn't know how airplanes
- 00:40:00flew um so I think if you are in charge
- 00:40:03of a company that makes airplanes fly
- 00:40:08and spacecraft go to vit you need to
- 00:40:11know it can't be a total mystery as to
- 00:40:14how they work
- 00:40:17yeah
- 00:40:18so you know I'm like sure if somebody's
- 00:40:22like running cocoa Pepsi and and they're
- 00:40:24like great at marketing or whatever um
- 00:40:26that's that's fine because it's you know
- 00:40:29it's it's not a sort of Technology
- 00:40:31dependent business um you know or if
- 00:40:34they're running a you know financial
- 00:40:36consulting in their degrees in
- 00:40:38accounting that makes sense um but I
- 00:40:40think uh you know if you're if you're
- 00:40:43the Cavalry Captain you should know how
- 00:40:44to ride a horse pretty basic yeah
- 00:40:49yeah it's like it's disconcerting if the
- 00:40:51Cavalry Captain just falls off the horse
- 00:40:53you
- 00:40:55know the team
- 00:40:58I'm sorry I'm scared of horses gets on
- 00:40:59backwards I'm like
- 00:41:02oops um sh shifting gears to AI uh Peter
- 00:41:05was here earlier and he was talking
- 00:41:07about how so far the only company to
- 00:41:08really make money off AI is NVIDIA with
- 00:41:11the chips um do you have a sense yet of
- 00:41:14where you think the big applications
- 00:41:16will be from AI is it going to be an
- 00:41:19enabling self-driving is it going to be
- 00:41:20enabling robots is it transforming
- 00:41:23Industries I mean it's still I think
- 00:41:25early in terms of where the big business
- 00:41:28impact is going to be do you have a
- 00:41:29sense
- 00:41:40yet I I mean I think I think
- 00:41:43the the the spending on AI probably runs
- 00:41:47ahead of I mean does run ahead of the
- 00:41:49revenue right now that's there's no
- 00:41:51question about that um but the rate of
- 00:41:55improvement of AI is faster than any
- 00:41:57technology I've ever seen by far
- 00:42:00and and and it
- 00:42:04it's I mean like the for example the
- 00:42:07touring test used to be a thing now you
- 00:42:11know your basic uh open- Source random
- 00:42:14llm you're writing on a freaking
- 00:42:15Raspberry Pi probably could uh you know
- 00:42:18beat the touring test
- 00:42:21um so
- 00:42:23there's I I I I think actually
- 00:42:27like like the the the good future of AI
- 00:42:31is one of immense
- 00:42:33Prosperity
- 00:42:35where there is an age of abundance no
- 00:42:39shortage of goods and
- 00:42:41services everyone can have whatever they
- 00:42:44want unless except for things we
- 00:42:46artificially Define to be scarce like
- 00:42:48some special
- 00:42:49artwork um but but anything that is a
- 00:42:52manufactured good or provided Service uh
- 00:42:55will I think with the of AI plus
- 00:42:58robotics that the cost of goods and
- 00:43:01services will be
- 00:43:04will Trend to zero like I'm not saying
- 00:43:08it be actually zero but it'll
- 00:43:11be every everyone will be able to have
- 00:43:13anything they want that that's the good
- 00:43:15future of course and you know in my view
- 00:43:19that's probably 80% likely so look on
- 00:43:20the right
- 00:43:22side only 20% 20% probability of
- 00:43:25annihilation nothing
- 00:43:27um is is the 20% like what does that
- 00:43:30look like I don't know man I mean
- 00:43:34frankly I do have to go engage in some
- 00:43:36degree of of deliberate suspension of
- 00:43:37disbelief with respect to AI in order to
- 00:43:40sleep well um and even then um because I
- 00:43:44I I I think the actual issue the the
- 00:43:47most likely issue is like well how do we
- 00:43:48find meaning in a world where AI can do
- 00:43:50everything we can do a bit better that
- 00:43:52that is that is perhaps the bigger
- 00:43:54challenge um
- 00:43:57although you know at this point I know
- 00:43:59more and more people who are retired and
- 00:44:01they seem to enjoy that life
- 00:44:04so uh but I think that that may be maybe
- 00:44:07there'll be some crisis of meaning like
- 00:44:09because the computer can do everything
- 00:44:11you can do B better so maybe that'll be
- 00:44:15a challenge um but but really uh you
- 00:44:20know you need you need the sort of end
- 00:44:21factors you need the the autonomous cars
- 00:44:25and you need the sort of humanoid robots
- 00:44:28or general purpose robots um but once
- 00:44:31you have general purpose humanoid robots
- 00:44:35um and autonomous
- 00:44:37vehicles uh you really you you you can
- 00:44:41build anything um and and and this I
- 00:44:45think that there's no actual limit to
- 00:44:47the size of the economy I mean there
- 00:44:49obviously you know the mass of Earth you
- 00:44:51know like that be one limit um but the
- 00:44:56you know the the economy is is really
- 00:44:57just the average productivity per person
- 00:45:00times number of people that's the
- 00:45:02economy and if you if you've got
- 00:45:05humanoid robots that can do you know
- 00:45:09where there's no real limit on the
- 00:45:10number of humanoid robots um and and
- 00:45:13they they can operate very intelligently
- 00:45:16then then there's no actual limit to the
- 00:45:18economy in there's no meaningful limit
- 00:45:20to the economy you guys just turned on
- 00:45:22Colossus which is like the largest
- 00:45:25private compute cluster I guess of gpus
- 00:45:28anywhere is that it's it's the it's the
- 00:45:30most powerful supercomputer of any kind
- 00:45:33um which sort of speaks to what David
- 00:45:36said and kind of what Peter said which
- 00:45:37is a lot of the kind of economic value
- 00:45:40so far of ai ai is entirely gone to
- 00:45:43Nvidia but there are people with
- 00:45:45Alternatives and you're actually one
- 00:45:47with an alternative now you have a very
- 00:45:48specific case because Dojo is really
- 00:45:49about images and large images huge
- 00:45:53video um yeah I mean the the Tesla
- 00:45:56problem is is different from the
- 00:45:59um you know the sort of llm problem uh
- 00:46:03the nature of the intelligence actually
- 00:46:04is actually and
- 00:46:06and the what what matters in the AI is
- 00:46:09is different um to to the point you just
- 00:46:12made which is that in the in ts's case
- 00:46:14the context uh length is very long so
- 00:46:17we've got gigabytes of context G context
- 00:46:19Windows yeah yeah you got you know sort
- 00:46:22of uh I was just bringing it up kind of
- 00:46:24billions of tokens of context NY amount
- 00:46:26of cont context because you've got um
- 00:46:29seven seven cameras and if you've got
- 00:46:31several you know let's say you've got a
- 00:46:33minute of several high high def cameras
- 00:46:36then that's gigabytes so you need to
- 00:46:38compress so the Tesla problem is you got
- 00:46:40to compress a gigantic context um into
- 00:46:44the the pixels that are that actually
- 00:46:47matter um
- 00:46:49and you know and and and condense that
- 00:46:52over a time and so you've got in both uh
- 00:46:55the time Dimension the space Dimension
- 00:46:57you've got to compress the pixels u in
- 00:47:00space and the pixels over in time
- 00:47:03um and and and then and then have that
- 00:47:06inference done on a tiny computer
- 00:47:08relatively speaking a small like you
- 00:47:11know a few hundred watt uh it's a Tesla
- 00:47:14designed AI inference computer uh which
- 00:47:16is bya still the best there isn't a
- 00:47:19better thing we could buy from suppliers
- 00:47:21so the Tesla designed AI inference
- 00:47:23computer that's in the cars is better
- 00:47:25than anything we could buy from any
- 00:47:27supplier just by the way that's kind of
- 00:47:28a the way the Tesla a a is extremely
- 00:47:32good you guys in the design there was a
- 00:47:34technical paper and there was a deck
- 00:47:35that somebody on your team from Tesla
- 00:47:38published and it was stunning to me you
- 00:47:40designed your own transport control like
- 00:47:42layer over ethernet you're like ah
- 00:47:44ethernet's not good enough for us you
- 00:47:45have this TT Coe or something and you're
- 00:47:48like oh we're just going to reinvent
- 00:47:49ethernet and like string these chips
- 00:47:51it's pretty incredible stuff that's
- 00:47:52happening over there yeah um no the team
- 00:47:56the the Tesla a chip design team is
- 00:47:58extremely extremely good um so um but is
- 00:48:03there a world where for example other
- 00:48:04people over time that need you know some
- 00:48:06sort of like video use case or image use
- 00:48:09case theoretically you know you'd say oh
- 00:48:11why not you know I have some extra
- 00:48:12Cycles over here so it which should kind
- 00:48:14of make you a competitor of Nvidia it's
- 00:48:16not intentionally per se
- 00:48:18but um yeah I mean
- 00:48:22the you know this training and inference
- 00:48:25and we we do have the you know two the
- 00:48:26two projects at Tesla we've got Dojo
- 00:48:28which is the the training computer uh
- 00:48:31and then um you know our inference chip
- 00:48:35which is in every every car inference
- 00:48:38computer um so and Dojo we've only had
- 00:48:42Dojo one Dojo 2
- 00:48:44is um you know should be we should have
- 00:48:47Dojo 2 in volume towards the end of next
- 00:48:48year um and and that that that will be
- 00:48:52we think sort of comparable to uh the
- 00:48:57sort of a b200 type type system a
- 00:48:59training system um and um you know so
- 00:49:04there's I guess there's some potential
- 00:49:06for for that to be used as a service um
- 00:49:10and but like
- 00:49:13you Dojo is is just kind of like I mean
- 00:49:17we're I guess I guess I have like some
- 00:49:20improved confidence in Dojo
- 00:49:24um but I think we won't really know
- 00:49:27how good Dojo is until probably version
- 00:49:30three like usually takes three major
- 00:49:32iterations on a technology for it to be
- 00:49:35to be excellent um and we'll only have
- 00:49:37the second major iteration next year um
- 00:49:41the third iteration I don't know maybe
- 00:49:44late you know 26 or something like that
- 00:49:47how's the uh how's the Optimus project
- 00:49:48going I remember when we talked last um
- 00:49:50you said this publicly that it's in
- 00:49:53doing some light testing inside the
- 00:49:55factory um so it's actually being useful
- 00:49:58what's the build of materials and when
- 00:50:01you know for something like that at
- 00:50:02scale so when you start making it like
- 00:50:04you're making the model 3 now and
- 00:50:05there's a million of them coming off the
- 00:50:06factory line what would the would they
- 00:50:08cost 20 30 $40,000 you think yeah I mean
- 00:50:12what I mean I've discovered really that
- 00:50:15you know anything made in sufficient
- 00:50:17volume will ASM totically approach the
- 00:50:20cost of its of its uh
- 00:50:23materials so now there's there's I
- 00:50:25should say the there's
- 00:50:27some some things are constrained by the
- 00:50:28cost of intellectual property and like
- 00:50:30paying for patents and stuff so a lot of
- 00:50:33you know what what's in a a chip is like
- 00:50:35paying paying royalties um and
- 00:50:38depreciation of the chip fa so but the
- 00:50:41actual marginal cost of the chips is
- 00:50:42very low um so so so Optimus it
- 00:50:47obviously is humanoid robot it it is it
- 00:50:49weighs much less than it's much smaller
- 00:50:51than a car um so the you could expect
- 00:50:55that in high volume
- 00:50:58uh and and i' say you also probably need
- 00:51:00three three production versions of
- 00:51:01Optimus so you need to refine the design
- 00:51:05three at least three major times and and
- 00:51:08then you need scale production
- 00:51:10to sort of the million unit plus per
- 00:51:13year
- 00:51:14level and I think at that point the cost
- 00:51:19the the you know the labor and materials
- 00:51:22on Optimus is probably not much more
- 00:51:25than $10,000 yeah and that's a decade
- 00:51:27long journey maybe basically think of it
- 00:51:29like Optimus will cost less than um a a
- 00:51:34small car right
- 00:51:37so at at scale volume with three major
- 00:51:40iterations of technology and and so if a
- 00:51:42small car you know costs $25,000 you
- 00:51:46know it's it's probably like I don't
- 00:51:48know $20,000 for for an Optimus for a
- 00:51:50humanoid robot that can be your your
- 00:51:53body like a combination of R2D2 and c3p
- 00:51:57better I mean you know that's honestly I
- 00:52:00think people are going to get really
- 00:52:01attached to their humanoid robot because
- 00:52:03I mean like you look at sort of you
- 00:52:05watch Star Wars it's like R2D2 and C3 I
- 00:52:07love those guys um you know they're
- 00:52:10awesome um and their personality and and
- 00:52:14I mean and all all R2 could do is just
- 00:52:16beef at you couldn't couldn't speak
- 00:52:20English um c3p to translate the beeps
- 00:52:24you know so you're in year two of that
- 00:52:25if you did two or three years per
- 00:52:27iteration or something it's a decade
- 00:52:28long journey for this to hit some sort
- 00:52:30of scale um I I would say m major
- 00:52:34iterations are less than two years so
- 00:52:36okay um it's probably on the order of
- 00:52:39five five years yeah
- 00:52:42uh maybe six to get to a million units a
- 00:52:45year and at that price point everybody
- 00:52:47can afford one on planet Earth I mean
- 00:52:50it's going to be that 1: one 2: one what
- 00:52:52do you think ultimately if we're sitting
- 00:52:53here in 30 years the number of robot on
- 00:52:56the planet versus Humans yeah I think
- 00:52:59the number of robots will vastly exceed
- 00:53:00the number of humans vastly yeah vastly
- 00:53:03exceed I mean you have to say like who
- 00:53:04who would not want their robot buddy
- 00:53:08everyone wants a robot buddy
- 00:53:11um you know this is like it especially
- 00:53:14if it can you know you know it can take
- 00:53:17care of your your take your dog for a
- 00:53:20walk it could you know mo mow the lawn
- 00:53:23it could watch your kids uh it could you
- 00:53:25know like it could it could teach your
- 00:53:28kids it could it could we could also
- 00:53:30send it to Mars we send a lot of robots
- 00:53:33to Mars to do the work needed to yeah
- 00:53:35make it a colonized planet for him Mars
- 00:53:37is already the robot Planet there's like
- 00:53:39a whole bunch of you know robots like
- 00:53:41Rovers and only helicopter yes only
- 00:53:43robots yeah um so yeah the no I I think
- 00:53:48the the sort of useful humanoid
- 00:53:51robot opportunity is the single biggest
- 00:53:54opportunity
- 00:53:57ever
- 00:54:00um because if you assume like that I
- 00:54:03mean the I think the ratio of humanoid
- 00:54:05robots to humans is going to be at least
- 00:54:062 to one maybe 3 to one because
- 00:54:09everybody every everybody will want one
- 00:54:10and then there'll be a bunch of robots
- 00:54:12that you don't see that are making goods
- 00:54:13and services and you think it's a
- 00:54:15general one generalized robot that then
- 00:54:17learns how to do different tasks or yeah
- 00:54:20hey um I mean we are a
- 00:54:22generalized yeah we're a generalized
- 00:54:24we're just made of meat exactly
- 00:54:27uh we're a meat PB generaliz meat yeah I
- 00:54:29mean operating my meat Pub you
- 00:54:32know so um yeah we are
- 00:54:35actually and by the way it turns out
- 00:54:37like as we're designing optimists we
- 00:54:40sort of learn more and more about why
- 00:54:42humans are shaped the way they're shaped
- 00:54:45and you know and why we have five
- 00:54:47fingers and why your little finger is
- 00:54:49smaller than you know your index finger
- 00:54:51um you know you know obviously why you
- 00:54:54have opposable thumbs but also why for
- 00:54:56example your the muscles the major
- 00:54:59muscles that operate your hand are
- 00:55:01actually in your forearm and and your
- 00:55:04fingers are primarily operated like um
- 00:55:08your the muscles that actuate your
- 00:55:11fingers um are located the vast majority
- 00:55:14of the of the of your finger strength is
- 00:55:16actually coming from your
- 00:55:17forearm um and your fingers are being
- 00:55:19operated by tendons little strings that
- 00:55:23that's and so the current version of of
- 00:55:26the Optimus hand uh has the actuators in
- 00:55:29the hand and has only 11 degrees of
- 00:55:32freedom so it can't it's not as doesn't
- 00:55:33have all the degrees of freedom of human
- 00:55:36hand which has depending on how you
- 00:55:38count it roughly 25 degrees of freedom
- 00:55:40um and
- 00:55:43uh and and and and it's also like not
- 00:55:46strong enough in certain ways because
- 00:55:48the actuators have to fit in the hand um
- 00:55:51so the Next Generation Optimus hand uh
- 00:55:54which we have in Prototype form the the
- 00:55:56actuators have moved to the forearm just
- 00:55:58like a human and they operate the the
- 00:56:01fingers through cables just like a human
- 00:56:04hand and uh and then the next Generation
- 00:56:07had has 22 degrees of
- 00:56:08freedom um which we think
- 00:56:11is enough to do almost anything that a
- 00:56:14human can do
- 00:56:17um and presumably I think it was written
- 00:56:20that X and Tesla may work together and
- 00:56:24you know provide services but my Med
- 00:56:26thought went to oh if you just provide a
- 00:56:28grock to the robot then the robot has a
- 00:56:30personality and can process oh yeah
- 00:56:32voice and video and images and all of
- 00:56:33that stuff as the uh as we wrap
- 00:56:36here I think uh you know everybody talks
- 00:56:40about all the projects you're working on
- 00:56:42but um people don't know you have a
- 00:56:44great sense of humor that's not true oh
- 00:56:46you do you do um people don't see it but
- 00:56:49I would say one of I know for me the
- 00:56:51funniest week of my life or one of the
- 00:56:52funniest was when you did SNL and we got
- 00:56:55and you I got to tag along maybe you saw
- 00:56:58it um maybe behind the scenes like some
- 00:57:03of your funniest Recollections of that
- 00:57:05chaotic insane week when we laughed for
- 00:57:0912 hours a day it was a little
- 00:57:11terrorizing on the first couple of days
- 00:57:12but yeah I was I was bit worried in the
- 00:57:15beginning there because frankly nothing
- 00:57:18was funny um day one was rough rough um
- 00:57:24yeah so I mean it's like a rule but
- 00:57:27can't you guys just say it just say the
- 00:57:29stuff that got on the
- 00:57:31cutting the funniest skits were the ones
- 00:57:33that didn't let you do that's what I'm
- 00:57:34saying can you just say there were a
- 00:57:35couple of funny ones yeah that they
- 00:57:36didn't like well you can say it so that
- 00:57:37he doesn't get I mean how much time do
- 00:57:40we have here well we should just give
- 00:57:41him one or two it
- 00:57:43was in your mind which one do we regret
- 00:57:46most not getting on
- 00:57:49air you really want to hear that I I
- 00:57:53mean I mean it was a little spicy it was
- 00:57:56a little
- 00:57:58funny
- 00:58:00okay here we go all right here we go
- 00:58:05guys all right so one of the things that
- 00:58:10um I think everyone's been sort of
- 00:58:11wondering this whole time is is Saturday
- 00:58:13night Saturday Night Live actually live
- 00:58:17like live live live live or do they have
- 00:58:20like a delay or like just in case you
- 00:58:23know there's a wardrobe malfunction or
- 00:58:25something like
- 00:58:27uh is it like a you know 5c delay what's
- 00:58:30really going on but there's a there's a
- 00:58:32way to test this right we came up the
- 00:58:35way there's a way to test
- 00:58:37it um which is we don't tell them what's
- 00:58:40going on as I W on and say this is the
- 00:58:43script I throw it on the ground we're
- 00:58:46going to find out tonight right now if
- 00:58:48Saturday live if Saturday night life is
- 00:58:51actually
- 00:58:53live and the way that we're going to do
- 00:58:55this is I'm going to take my [ __ ]
- 00:59:00[Applause]
- 00:59:03out this is the greatest pitch ever and
- 00:59:06and if if if if you see my
- 00:59:11[ __ ] you know it's
- 00:59:14true and if you don't it's been a lie
- 00:59:17it's been a lie all these years all
- 00:59:19these years now this is we're going to
- 00:59:21bust them right now and this we're
- 00:59:23pitching this yeah yeah so we're
- 00:59:25pitching this Zoom yeah pring this on
- 00:59:27zoom on like a Monday after like yeah
- 00:59:30we're like kind of hung over from the
- 00:59:31weekend and like pring this like and and
- 00:59:34and it's uh it's you know Jason's on um
- 00:59:37and uh Mike and you yeah and Mike uh you
- 00:59:40know essentially got like you know who
- 00:59:42my friends who I think are sort of you
- 00:59:44know quite funny um you know uh Jason's
- 00:59:48quite funny I think like like Jason's
- 00:59:50the closest thing to Cartman that exists
- 00:59:52in the real in real
- 00:59:54life we haven't show that he's Butters
- 00:59:57and I'm Cartman yeah so um and then my
- 01:00:02friend Mike's PR funny too so so we we
- 01:00:06come in like like just like guns blazing
- 01:00:08guns blazing with with like ideas and
- 01:00:11and we didn't realize like actually you
- 01:00:12know that's not how it works and and and
- 01:00:14uh that's that's that's normally like
- 01:00:17actors and and they just get told what
- 01:00:18to do and like oh right well you mean we
- 01:00:20can't just like do funny things that we
- 01:00:23thought of what they're they're watching
- 01:00:25this on the zoom they're a gas at pitch
- 01:00:29yeah silence like so I'm like and I'm
- 01:00:32like and I was like is this thing
- 01:00:33working is are we muted is is our mic on
- 01:00:36I they like we hear you yeah and then
- 01:00:38and then after a long silence like
- 01:00:40Mike's Mike just says the word crickets
- 01:00:43crickets and they're not laughing
- 01:00:45they're not even a chule I'm like what's
- 01:00:47going on Elon explains the punch line
- 01:00:50yes is exactly so there's more to it
- 01:00:54okay yes
- 01:00:57that's just the
- 01:00:58beginning so Elon says so so then I'm so
- 01:01:01I'm like so so so so I said like I'm I'm
- 01:01:05I'm G to I'm going to reach
- 01:01:09down into my pants and into my pants and
- 01:01:12and I stick my hand on my pants and I'm
- 01:01:14going and I'm and I'm going to pull my
- 01:01:15call out I tell this to the audience and
- 01:01:16the audience is going to be like
- 01:01:18go right and and and and and then and
- 01:01:23and then and then and then I pull out a
- 01:01:26a a baby
- 01:01:28rooster you know yes and it's like okay
- 01:01:31this is kind of PG you know like not
- 01:01:34that bad it's like this is my tiny [ __ ]
- 01:01:38and
- 01:01:41and and it's like what do you think uh
- 01:01:45and so then and do you think it's an ice
- 01:01:47[ __ ] I mean I like it I pitch I'm like
- 01:01:50and then Kate McKennon walks out yeah
- 01:01:52exactly and I'm like oh no but you
- 01:01:53haven't heard half of it so Kate
- 01:01:54McKennon comes out yeah and she says
- 01:01:57Elon I expected you would have a bigger
- 01:02:00[ __ ] yeah like I I don't mean to just
- 01:02:03point you Kate but yeah um but I I I
- 01:02:06hope you like it anyway
- 01:02:08um but Kate's got to come out with with
- 01:02:11with her cat okay right uh so and Kate
- 01:02:15says you see where you can see where
- 01:02:16this is going and I say nice wow that's
- 01:02:19that's a that's a that's a nice [ __ ]
- 01:02:21you've got there
- 01:02:23Kate wow that's amazing
- 01:02:26um it looks a little wet was it raining
- 01:02:31outside and then um do do you mind if I
- 01:02:35stroke your [ __ ] is that cool it's like
- 01:02:37oh no Elon actually can I hold your [ __ ]
- 01:02:40of course of course Kate you definitely
- 01:02:43hold my [ __ ] um and and then you know we
- 01:02:46exchange and I think just the audio
- 01:02:48version of this is pretty good right um
- 01:02:50and and and um you know so it's like wow
- 01:02:54you I really like stroking your [ __ ] and
- 01:02:58I was
- 01:03:00like and El says I'm really enjoying
- 01:03:03strug at your [ __ ] yes of course and um
- 01:03:08yeah so you know they're looking at us
- 01:03:11like oh my god what have we done
- 01:03:13inviting these lunatics on the
- 01:03:15program yeah they said they said like
- 01:03:18well um it is uh it is Mother's
- 01:03:23Day it's Mother's Day we might not want
- 01:03:25to go with this one mom's in the
- 01:03:27audience and I'm like well that's a good
- 01:03:29point well fair fair it might be a bit
- 01:03:31uncomfortable for all the moms in the
- 01:03:33audience maybe I don't know I don't know
- 01:03:34maybe they'll dig it maybe they'll like
- 01:03:35it uh so uh yeah that
- 01:03:39was that's the um that's the that's the
- 01:03:44that's the um cold open that didn't make
- 01:03:46it we didn't get that on the air um but
- 01:03:50uh we did fight for Doge yes and we got
- 01:03:54Doge on the I mean there's a bunch of
- 01:03:55things that I said that were just not on
- 01:03:56the script like they have these like Q
- 01:03:58cards for what you're supposed to say
- 01:03:59and I just didn't say it I just went off
- 01:04:01off the rails
- 01:04:02yeah into that coming yeah it's live
- 01:04:06well it's
- 01:04:08live and uh so the Elon wanted to do
- 01:04:13Doge this is the other one he wanted to
- 01:04:15do Doge on late night and he says um hey
- 01:04:17jakal can you um make sure oh yeah I
- 01:04:19want I want to do the Doge father like
- 01:04:21you sort of redo the you know that scene
- 01:04:23from uh the The Godfather I mean you
- 01:04:26kind of need the music to cue things
- 01:04:30up you bring me on my daughter's
- 01:04:34wedding listen you ask for do yeah you
- 01:04:37got and I give you Bitcoin but you want
- 01:04:39do exactly you really got to set the
- 01:04:41mood you get have
- 01:04:44tuxedo you got have like like
- 01:04:50Mar said you come to me on this day of
- 01:04:54my Do's wedding
- 01:04:56and you ask me for your private
- 01:05:01keys are you even a friend you call me
- 01:05:05the Dodge
- 01:05:07father so b
- 01:05:09b you know so that's potential that had
- 01:05:13great potential so they come to me and
- 01:05:15I'm I'm talking to Colin um and Jo who's
- 01:05:19got a great sense of humor he's amazing
- 01:05:20he loves Elon and he's like we can't do
- 01:05:22it because of the law and stuff like
- 01:05:24that the law and liability so I said
- 01:05:28it's okay Elon called Comcast and he put
- 01:05:32in an offer and they just accepted it he
- 01:05:35just bought NBC so it's fine yeah and
- 01:05:40Colin Joe looks at me and I so so good
- 01:05:42and he's like you're you're serious I'm
- 01:05:45like yep we own NBC now yeah and he's
- 01:05:50like okay well that kind of changes
- 01:05:52things doesn't it I'm like absolutely
- 01:05:54we're a go on on Doge yeah and then he's
- 01:05:57like you're [ __ ] with me and I'm I'm
- 01:05:59[ __ ] with
- 01:06:00you or are we or are
- 01:06:02we it was the greatest week of and that
- 01:06:07like is like two of 10 stories yeah we
- 01:06:09got yeah we got we'll save the other
- 01:06:10eight yeah but it was and I was just so
- 01:06:13happy for you to see you have a great
- 01:06:17week of just joy and fun and letting go
- 01:06:19because you were launching Rockets
- 01:06:21you're dealing with so much [ __ ] in
- 01:06:22your life to have those moments to share
- 01:06:25them and just laugh um it was just so
- 01:06:27great and more of those moments I think
- 01:06:30we got to we got to get you back on SNL
- 01:06:32who wants to back on SNL one more time
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