Cardinals Call-Up: Thomas Saggese's Big League Debut Is Here! What To Do With Miles Mikolas

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Summary

TLDRIn this episode of Locked On Cardinals, host JD Hathcer discusses recent developments concerning the St. Louis Cardinals. Top prospect Thomas A. Jai is being promoted to the big leagues, providing a glimpse into the Cardinals' future. Conversely, pitcher Miles Mikolas has been struggling, suffering poor outings and demonstrating an ERA of 5.55. This performance raises questions about his place in the rotation, particularly with the Cardinals focusing on upcoming seasons. Host JD considers several options for Mikolas, including potential injury designations, trading, or offering him a chance to rebound in spring training. The podcast also touches on other players and minor league prospects who might offer the team new potential. With an upcoming series against the Reds and heartfelt tributes paid to the late James Earl Jones, the episode features a mix of optimism towards new talent and reflection on current challenges.

Takeaways

  • 🆕 Thomas A. Jai is being called up to the major leagues, signaling a positive move for the Cardinals' future.
  • ⚾ Miles Mikolas's struggles continue, raising questions about his effectiveness and future with the team.
  • ❓ The Cardinals are focusing on 2025 with an eye on developing future talent.
  • 🤔 Options for Mikolas include potential trades, injury designations, or a shot at redemption in spring training.
  • 🔄 The podcast suggests rotating new prospects through the lineup and pitching rotation.
  • 🏟️ A new series against the Reds offers a stage for analyzing team progress.
  • 🎥 A tribute to James Earl Jones highlights his impact on baseball and film.
  • 📊 The Cardinals are evaluating their roster and planning strategically for the upcoming seasons.
  • 🎯 Management's choices reflect ongoing engagement with fan base concerns and expectations.
  • 🗣️ Host JD Hathcer encourages a balance between current roster decisions and future planning.

Timeline

  • 00:00:00 - 00:05:00

    The Cardinal's top prospect, Thomas A. Jai, is set to be called up to the big leagues, marking a significant moment for the team's future. With an impressive performance in Memphis, Jai is expected to fill in temporarily due to Brendan Donovan's toe infection. The Cardinals are focusing on the 2025 season amidst a challenging series with the Mariners, highlighting the need for immediate improvements in their roster.

  • 00:05:00 - 00:10:00

    Miles Micheles' concerning performance is spotlighted as he struggles significantly against the Mariners, marking eight starts without a win since July 21st. His statistics show a clear decline, with an ERA rising to 7.23 over the recent stretch. The team must consider rotational changes as Micheles becomes less effective, suggesting potential future adjustments.

  • 00:10:00 - 00:15:00

    The discussion around Miles Micheles continues with questions about keeping him in the rotation despite a hefty salary of $17.6 million. The consideration is whether to bench him, given his recent inefficacy, while evaluating other players who may better contribute to future success. The Cardinals face strategic decisions about balancing contracts with team performance.

  • 00:15:00 - 00:20:00

    Debates arise about options for Miles Micheles, including a possible injury designation to free up his position. Alternatives like Michael McGreevy are explored, demonstrating potential to impact the rotation positively. The Cardinals need to plan for 2025 by testing other talents, potentially giving them a chance in the rotation over less effective veterans.

  • 00:20:00 - 00:27:55

    The team's direction, focusing on the future, involves decisions about phasing out ineffective veterans like Miles Micheles, aiming for a more competitive roster. Discussions on promising prospects show the Cardinals' intent to refresh their lineup, preparing for upcoming seasons. Nostalgia for past victories contrasts with the drive for new successes.

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Video Q&A

  • Which Cardinals prospect is being called up to the major leagues?

    Thomas A. Jai is being called up to the major leagues.

  • What problems is Miles Mikolas facing?

    He has been struggling significantly, with a high ERA and poor performance in his recent starts.

  • What is Miles Mikolas's ERA this season?

    Miles Mikolas has an ERA of 5.55 for the season.

  • What is the main concern regarding Miles Mikolas's place in the rotation?

    Fans are questioning why he continues to start given his poor performance and the team's future needs.

  • What are the discussed options for Miles Mikolas's future with the Cardinals?

    Options include cutting their losses by releasing or trading him, or seeing if he can regain form in spring training.

  • What is the Cardinals' timeline focus as discussed in the video?

    2025 is a focus as the team looks to the future and tries to develop new talent.

  • What solution does Kevin Wheeler propose for handling Miles Mikolas?

    He suggests giving Mikolas a chance to prove himself in spring training.

  • How is James Earl Jones remembered in the context of the video?

    They reflect on James Earl Jones's impact, especially in baseball movies.

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    one of the Cardinal top prospects
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    uh which is some good news I think in my
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    Robert Murray says that the Cardinals
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    are going to call up number four
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    Prospect Thomas a Jai who was acquired
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    in the deal with Texas for Jordan
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    Montgomery last year uh this has also
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    been confirmed by Katie Woo so hitting
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    253 this season he's got 20 bombs he's
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    got 67 RB's nine stolen bases the Ops at
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    751 for Memphis this year uh really
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    turned it on since July he's been more
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    of the hitter you saw last year when he
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    won the doublea MVP award uh 11 of his
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    home runs have come since the beginning
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    of July uh he hit 349 that month and 235
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    in August but he popped seven dingers in
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    August so um it was a bit of a slow
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    start for him this year coming out of
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    the gate but uh has turned things around
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    and now you're seeing him put up solid
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    numbers once again uh John Denton says
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    the timing of this makes sense with the
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    Cardinals wanting to give Mason win a
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    night off and Brendan Donovan still
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    dealing with the infection in his
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    swollen big toe it's also another
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    glimpse of the future for this team that
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    has 2025 on their mind uh more now than
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    ever after the rough series with the
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    Mariners over the weekend where they
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    ended up dropping two of three
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    uh to a team that you know they're not a
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    they're supposed to be a really bad team
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    uh they've got Elite pitching Cardinals
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    learned that the hard way by scoring
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    just seven runs in those three games and
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    uh we I thought they were going to be
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    three to2 type of ball games uh the
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    Mariners score six in game one and then
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    10 in h game three uh that that was not
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    what we were looking for uh game one
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    fetty was decent but got yanked after
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    four and two-thirds Innings and of
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    course after praising Matthew Liberator
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    uh so much recently he gives up a
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    two-run jack they get three off Ley late
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    in the game and the Cardinals only
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    muster one run on Jordan Walker's solo
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    shot which was an absolute missile over
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    the left field wall game two you get the
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    brilliant performance from Kyle Gibson
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    he throws a season High 112 pitches he
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    strikes out nine Gets You Through six
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    and two-thirds Innings then on the other
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    side Logan Gilbert who's a very good
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    pitcher as well he's burning through the
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    Cardinals lineup until the bottom of the
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    eth Pedro paaz uh Tak some deep into the
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    night two run shot Cardinals win that
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    one two to none but then we get to
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    Sunday and this is where I want to focus
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    a little bit because this has a been a
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    very big topic of discussion it's
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    something we've brought up here on
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    lockon Cardinals a few times already is
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    miles michelas miles michelas gets the
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    start and it went about as bad as it can
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    get he he was not good the first five
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    batters get hits double single one to
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    nothing already uh sing single double
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    three to nothing followed by another
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    single we're five batters into this
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    sucker and you're down three to nothing
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    already gets the next two guys on
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    strikes first and third two out another
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    base hit makes it five to nothing before
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    our guys even pick up a bat it took him
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    23 pitches just to get out of the first
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    inning uh or just to get to the first uh
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    out uh wasn't the first inning first out
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    23 pitches uh comes out for the second
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    inning lead off single gets a fly out
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    then Randy a Ros Arena rips a two Homer
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    you knew it would happen eventually that
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    Rosena would do something seven to
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    nothing and you know these are the
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    Mariners these are the Mariners not a
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    good offensive team whatsoever bottom of
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    the American League in a lot of
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    categories if it wasn't for the white
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    socks they'd be at the very bottom of a
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    lot of the categories uh Michaelis
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    allows another double before the second
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    inning finally ends Ali closed the book
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    on him after that brings in Steven matz
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    for the third inning and there you go so
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    I mean to go into a hole like that right
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    away against the Mariners with the way
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    their pitching staff is is um not not
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    good uh almost insurmountable uh to come
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    back against them when you've given up
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    that amount of offense already according
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    to Rob Reigns michelis has now made
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    eight starts for the Cardinals since his
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    last win which was on July 21st and I
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    know wins and losses we you know it
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    depends on a lot of things for that to
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    happen but over that stretch he's been
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    Terri terrible 54 hits 30 earned runs
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    and 37 in the third Innings that's an
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    erra of 7.23 guys
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    7.23 now you go back to June 27 michelas
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    has won only two of his last 13 starts
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    the area
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    6.75 over that stretch uh ER on the
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    season at 5.55 according to Jeff Jones
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    uh the last Cardinal pitcher to throw at
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    least 150 Innings and have an erra of
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    5.50 or higher was the U you know the
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    the legendary Kip Wells back in 2007
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    you're like who
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    exactly they've only had 11 such seasons
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    in their history according to Jeff eight
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    of which were in 1929 or earlier the
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    three modern times were Kip Wells Jason
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    Marquee and 07 and then uh Jose gimenez
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    in
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    1999 some uh fantastic throwback names
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    by by the way Jason Marquee Jose jenez
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    yeah uh but this is the level that we've
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    dropped to with Miles micheles this is
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    how bad he's gotten this
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    season I don't know what else you need
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    to see from this guy to prove to you
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    that he doesn't belong in this rotation
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    anymore either come up with something
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    like shoulder
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    fatigue or sore hip or something oh my
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    hammy something something sit him down
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    and let someone else have a crack at at
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    his starting spot for at least the rest
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    of this year now the argument that
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    you'll get from you know people like
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    from the Cardinal I should say not from
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    fans fans aren't going to argue with me
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    on this at all but the argument uh that
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    the Cardinal will say well we're paying
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    him $17.6 million that's why it needs to
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    be in there as lame as that contract
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    it's is um if the goal is to
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    win why would you keep throwing them out
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    there why if the goal is to rebuild for
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    next season if that's what you're
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    starting to think of you're like okay
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    2025 let's start working on that instead
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    why would you keep throwing them out
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    there like there's really not a whole
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    lot of positives with Miles Michael is
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    taking the ball anymore I feel the same
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    way about Lance Lynn like I don't know
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    why we're we're going to start him he's
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    not gonna be a part of the future of
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    this team I can't imagine that the
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    Cardinals would bring him back next year
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    and select his
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    option Kyle Gibson maybe I I don't see
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    how you're gonna bring Lance
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    slimack but miles michelas is not
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    helping you win right now and he's not
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    going to help you figure out what you're
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    going to do in the future with any uh of
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    the other prospects that you have in
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    your organization that probably deserve
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    a crack at a starting job so what is the
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    point of him in this rotation anymore
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    this season the question is now what do
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    you do with them moving forward if you
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    were to make that decision so we'll
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    tackle that question next on lockon
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    you think what do you want to do with
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    them all right you know what he is you
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    know what he brings to the table each
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    and every outing where do we go from
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    here all right
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    so this year as I said you could come up
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    with some sort of injury designation
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    like we don't know as of the time that
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    I'm doing this that we don't know what
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    the corresponding move is with Thomas
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    and ji yet so maybe something happens
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    but uh you can come up with some sort of
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    injury designation like I said arm
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    fatigue is a good one um You can call up
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    someone like Michael mcgrey who was
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    awesome in his one and only start at the
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    major league level earlier this year and
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    has continued to pitch pretty well at
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    Memphis now on the surface if you go to
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    mcgreevy's numbers they're not going to
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    jump off the page at you uh8 and8 3.97
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    ra only 134 K and 145 Innings but
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    since making that start for the
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    Cardinals at the end of July which he
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    was brilliant in he has gone three and
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    one at Memphis with a 2.56 ER 38
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    strikeouts and 35 and two-thirds Innings
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    so whatever change he has made it's
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    working it's
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    working and when you start thinking
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    about next year's rotation you know
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    where where most of us have decided hey
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    2024 is not going to happen they're
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    going to miss the playoffs for a second
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    straight year
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    unfortunately what's on tap for 2025
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    well when you start thinking about that
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    rotation Michael mcgrey has certainly
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    put his name into this the discussion
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    and I don't think at the beginning of
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    the year you would have thought that
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    because he hadn't had much success in
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    the minor leagues he was just kind of a
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    me pitcher just kind of middle of the
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    road and it didn't look like things were
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    going to work out as uh well as you'd
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    hoped when you took him in the first
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    round a few years ago but things have
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    changed there's been some uh adjustments
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    made and now Michael mcgrey looks like
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    somebody that you legit need to start
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    thinking about taking out one of those
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    uh those starting rotation spots um
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    right now if you look ahead and you go
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    towards the what you got under contract
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    for next year Sunny gray Eric fety
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    Steven matz miles micheles and Andre
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    Palante you've still got the options on
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    Len and
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    Gibson but currently they're not you
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    haven't activated that so you know we
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    don't really have to concern ourselves
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    with that but those are the that I think
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    are penciled in as you're starting five
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    gray and Fetti they're not going
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    anywhere right unless you decide to
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    trade Fetti away which is something that
  • 00:13:06
    I I've seen people bring it up they're
  • 00:13:08
    like well what if you traded him again
  • 00:13:11
    like what if you were like well here's a
  • 00:13:13
    a year of Eric Fetti to somebody and you
  • 00:13:15
    get some prospects in return if you
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    weren't Blown Away with what he did this
  • 00:13:18
    year since he's been in a cardinal
  • 00:13:20
    uniform I get it it hasn't been the best
  • 00:13:23
    hasn't been as good as you thought it
  • 00:13:24
    was going to be uh so that's an idea but
  • 00:13:28
    as of right now I think gray and fetty
  • 00:13:30
    because at what fetty cost is going to
  • 00:13:32
    be they're going to want him you know
  • 00:13:34
    they're going to want to keep him around
  • 00:13:35
    at 7.5 uh Stephen matz who they okay on
  • 00:13:39
    Sunday in relief after the Michael is
  • 00:13:41
    shellacking uh he'll certainly get a
  • 00:13:43
    crack at the rotation again uh it's
  • 00:13:46
    always about health with him really if
  • 00:13:47
    he's healthy he'll be in that rotation
  • 00:13:50
    more than likely and I've said before
  • 00:13:51
    with the lack of left-handed pitchers
  • 00:13:53
    that you have available as a starter
  • 00:13:55
    it's kind of nice to have a Steven matz
  • 00:13:57
    there when he's healthy of course
  • 00:13:59
    to break up the just the righty righty
  • 00:14:01
    righty look that you have in your
  • 00:14:03
    rotation already Andre Palante had an
  • 00:14:06
    ugly game against
  • 00:14:07
    Milwaukee okay but he's been a really
  • 00:14:10
    nice surprise for you and has definitely
  • 00:14:12
    eared a spot in the rotation for next
  • 00:14:14
    year hasn't done anything to screw that
  • 00:14:16
    up I don't think uh that leaves
  • 00:14:17
    Michaelis as your last guy and puts your
  • 00:14:20
    former first rounders like like Michael
  • 00:14:22
    McGreevy like Zack Thompson who was up
  • 00:14:24
    on this club earlier this season and has
  • 00:14:26
    been in Memphis ever since uh they've
  • 00:14:28
    been on the outside looking in now uh
  • 00:14:30
    what about Quinn Matthews you know we're
  • 00:14:32
    starting to see guys not afraid to just
  • 00:14:35
    let them pitch at the major league level
  • 00:14:38
    you know younger pitchers and again
  • 00:14:40
    Quinn Matthews was a college guy he's
  • 00:14:41
    not some high school kid who's been in
  • 00:14:43
    minor league baseball for two years he's
  • 00:14:45
    only 21 or something you know he no he's
  • 00:14:48
    a mature man now uh so Quinn Matthews
  • 00:14:51
    coming up in being a part of this
  • 00:14:52
    rotation next year I'm not ruling that
  • 00:14:55
    out yet I would it's something at least
  • 00:14:58
    that I bet fans would be excited to to
  • 00:15:00
    see if you actually thought about it
  • 00:15:03
    what about Gordon
  • 00:15:04
    gtho Ian badell can none of them be more
  • 00:15:08
    competitive at the major league level
  • 00:15:10
    than what you're getting from miles
  • 00:15:13
    micheles is that what is that what we're
  • 00:15:15
    telling us or are we saying uh but he's
  • 00:15:18
    making 17.6 so we have to put him in
  • 00:15:20
    despite him not being a good
  • 00:15:22
    pitcher and that again comes back to is
  • 00:15:25
    winning the most important thing here or
  • 00:15:27
    are you just worried about saving face
  • 00:15:29
    because you're screwed up on that
  • 00:15:30
    contract and it was a mistake Uh Kevin
  • 00:15:33
    wheeler whom you can hear in the
  • 00:15:35
    afternoons on KMOX was pointing out how
  • 00:15:36
    bad michelis has been recently and so
  • 00:15:39
    you know I tweeted him I was like hey uh
  • 00:15:41
    what would be your plan for Miles next
  • 00:15:43
    year if you were in charge would you
  • 00:15:45
    just cut your losses and move on from
  • 00:15:46
    him the way that you know the Cardinals
  • 00:15:48
    did with Dexter Fowler they shipped them
  • 00:15:50
    to the angels ate almost all of the
  • 00:15:53
    salary basically and just kind of was
  • 00:15:54
    like look it's we screwed up let's move
  • 00:15:58
    on
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    uh or do you give michelas another shot
  • 00:16:01
    in the spring so those were the options
  • 00:16:04
    I kind of threw at him
  • 00:16:07
    um if we look at those two options
  • 00:16:10
    because I don't want to just glaze over
  • 00:16:12
    it but I know a lot of people just want
  • 00:16:14
    to get rid of them I I know that and I
  • 00:16:16
    get it I get it I completely understand
  • 00:16:19
    that you want to DFA them just remove
  • 00:16:21
    them eat the money again this is a big
  • 00:16:23
    part of this because miles is still owed
  • 00:16:26
    so much next year and it's not just a
  • 00:16:28
    couple of million dollars we're talking
  • 00:16:31
    17.6 million that you would have to pay
  • 00:16:33
    him to not Pitch for you anymore but
  • 00:16:37
    that's what some fans want they just
  • 00:16:38
    want to see it and chalk it up as a loss
  • 00:16:41
    cause and move on just move on with our
  • 00:16:43
    lives the other option keep him around
  • 00:16:45
    until next year see if he can figure
  • 00:16:47
    something out maybe the the coaching
  • 00:16:49
    staff or somebody come and figure out
  • 00:16:50
    why he's become one of the worst
  • 00:16:52
    pitchers in baseball and try to fix him
  • 00:16:55
    in his final contract here with the team
  • 00:16:57
    this is the option that Kevin wheeler
  • 00:17:00
    went with he said I don't think I just
  • 00:17:02
    flush the money down the drain but I
  • 00:17:04
    definitely make spring trading a
  • 00:17:06
    competition they kind of went that route
  • 00:17:09
    this past spring when it came to Stephen
  • 00:17:12
    matz they they wanted to see what he
  • 00:17:14
    could do if he could stay healthy and
  • 00:17:16
    make a determination from there um as to
  • 00:17:20
    whether or not he should be in the
  • 00:17:21
    rotation or he should be shipped over to
  • 00:17:23
    the bullpen despite being paid $1
  • 00:17:25
    million uh Zack Thompson was in the mix
  • 00:17:28
    Matthew Liberto
  • 00:17:29
    uh as well so maybe that's the approach
  • 00:17:32
    that that they go with in spring
  • 00:17:34
    training give michelis a fair shot give
  • 00:17:37
    him the offseason to figure it out see
  • 00:17:40
    if there's something that we can do here
  • 00:17:44
    um and then make a decision from that
  • 00:17:47
    the problem is would the Cardinals
  • 00:17:48
    actually do that is that something they
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    would actually try I'll tell you what I
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    Network your team every day so we go to
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    those two options between for miles
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    michelas and personally I think the best
  • 00:19:23
    decision is to just move on because it's
  • 00:19:27
    not my money and I don't feel bad about
  • 00:19:29
    them uh and I don't want to keep handing
  • 00:19:31
    the ball over to a guy who since
  • 00:19:34
    July doesn't give you a chance to win
  • 00:19:36
    most games you know you get these little
  • 00:19:38
    these blip starts where he looks good
  • 00:19:40
    like the against the Brewers they win
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    three to nothing in a game miles Michael
  • 00:19:44
    has started who saw that coming all
  • 00:19:46
    right so is he more of that guy or is he
  • 00:19:50
    the guy that constantly gives up five
  • 00:19:52
    six runs and four rings and just isn't
  • 00:19:55
    very good it's just one of the most
  • 00:19:56
    hitable major league pitchers of the
  • 00:20:00
    plan I mean come
  • 00:20:02
    on as much as it is like it is beautiful
  • 00:20:05
    when miles michelis is on don't get me
  • 00:20:07
    wrong like there there are times when
  • 00:20:09
    you watch him and he's drilling the
  • 00:20:12
    corners I mean he is on the black of the
  • 00:20:14
    plate all day and then he's got that
  • 00:20:17
    looping curve that comes and it's full
  • 00:20:19
    and sometimes it can be really really
  • 00:20:21
    nice but it doesn't happen enough to
  • 00:20:23
    where you can sustain him getting
  • 00:20:26
    blasted three out of five star s and
  • 00:20:30
    that crushes your Bullpen you know
  • 00:20:31
    there's an effect to all of this so the
  • 00:20:36
    logical and what I think the more
  • 00:20:37
    Cardinal way to do this is they're gonna
  • 00:20:40
    give miles a chance to redeem himself in
  • 00:20:42
    the spring next year I agree with Kevin
  • 00:20:44
    wheeler I think they're GNA bring him
  • 00:20:46
    back again and say all right let's see
  • 00:20:49
    what you got and take it from
  • 00:20:52
    there probably not the approach most
  • 00:20:54
    fans want but I don't I just I don't see
  • 00:20:58
    this card C ownership this front office
  • 00:21:01
    turning their back on a veteran I I
  • 00:21:02
    certainly don't see Ali turning his back
  • 00:21:05
    on a veteran he's not he's not that
  • 00:21:06
    manager to just say well you just don't
  • 00:21:08
    have it anymore dude you're you're done
  • 00:21:10
    and we're gonna bench you no he kind of
  • 00:21:12
    gives them the benefit of the doubt
  • 00:21:13
    which is an admirable thing but there's
  • 00:21:15
    a a point where you just
  • 00:21:18
    gotta you gotta cut the cord man and you
  • 00:21:20
    gotta say look we're not winning ball
  • 00:21:23
    games when you're throwing anymore and
  • 00:21:25
    we got to do something about that could
  • 00:21:28
    you him could you trade
  • 00:21:30
    him do the follow eat a substantial
  • 00:21:33
    portion of his contract
  • 00:21:35
    sure sure that's
  • 00:21:39
    um here's my thing that's great if you
  • 00:21:43
    want to do that but you got to find
  • 00:21:45
    somebody who wants him and I I've seen
  • 00:21:47
    comments where of course there's going
  • 00:21:48
    to be people out there that want him you
  • 00:21:50
    know he he eats Innings and well does
  • 00:21:53
    he but he's only lasting three and four
  • 00:21:56
    Innings because he gets killed is he
  • 00:21:59
    really eating that many innings for you
  • 00:22:01
    sure he's been healthy but it's it's
  • 00:22:04
    just not been good and
  • 00:22:08
    I I mean I'm sure there'll be somebody
  • 00:22:11
    if you're G to eat 10 12 million of that
  • 00:22:14
    contract would pay him you know the five
  • 00:22:16
    million to seven million to to to watch
  • 00:22:20
    him pitch I just if I'm another team I'm
  • 00:22:23
    looking at it going why would I want him
  • 00:22:25
    even at a discounted price like what is
  • 00:22:27
    it about him that
  • 00:22:30
    if he's not good enough to be in your
  • 00:22:31
    rotation and you're the Cardinals who
  • 00:22:33
    were just floating at 500 why the hell
  • 00:22:34
    would I want him so that's just how I
  • 00:22:37
    think because I just think he's gotten
  • 00:22:38
    that bad like he's to the you know like
  • 00:22:41
    I said he's like the Patrick Corbin he's
  • 00:22:43
    the right-handed versin of this a very
  • 00:22:45
    overpaid guy who at one time was a
  • 00:22:48
    better pitcher and it just isn't anymore
  • 00:22:51
    and and gets creamed a lot of times like
  • 00:22:54
    not just four runs over five innings
  • 00:22:56
    like seven in four inad like it's
  • 00:23:00
    bad so personally I'm just ready to move
  • 00:23:03
    on to the next era of Cardinal baseball
  • 00:23:05
    and my miles michelis feels like kind of
  • 00:23:08
    hanging on to the Past like it's just
  • 00:23:09
    like it's kind of like with Goldie like
  • 00:23:11
    I understand why there's reasons to
  • 00:23:13
    bring him back and stuff but I feel like
  • 00:23:14
    you're hanging on to the past of a
  • 00:23:17
    portion of Cardinal baseball that hasn't
  • 00:23:19
    won much and I I'm ready to see new
  • 00:23:23
    faces and uh see what goes on with
  • 00:23:27
    that I'm just I'm just kind of done with
  • 00:23:29
    it he's he's like a relic and I just I I
  • 00:23:32
    don't need to see it anymore certainly
  • 00:23:34
    don't need to see it anymore this year
  • 00:23:36
    so we'll see what happens um new series
  • 00:23:39
    begins tonight Reds and Cardinals at
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    Bush Stadium the Reds essentially ended
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    the Cardinal season with that sweep in
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    Cincinnati which arguably the ugliest
  • 00:23:47
    series the Cardinal played all year uh
  • 00:23:50
    when they just got waxed by the Reds U
  • 00:23:52
    the last time these two teams hooked up
  • 00:23:54
    neither of them are going anywhere the
  • 00:23:57
    uh Reds certainly love to beat the
  • 00:23:59
    Cardinals that's kind of their it's kind
  • 00:24:02
    of their
  • 00:24:02
    thing they they really get enjoyment out
  • 00:24:06
    of defeating the Cardinals uh tonight
  • 00:24:08
    you've got Andre Palante getting the
  • 00:24:10
    ball against one of the Red's top
  • 00:24:12
    pitching prospects in right-hander Rett
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    louer who in his last appearance looked
  • 00:24:16
    really really good shut out the Houston
  • 00:24:17
    Astros over six and the third Innings
  • 00:24:20
    Palante looking to bounce back from his
  • 00:24:22
    rough performance against the Brewers
  • 00:24:23
    you got a A first pitch set for 645 St
  • 00:24:26
    Louis time uh when Wednesday you're
  • 00:24:29
    looking at Lance Lynn coming back making
  • 00:24:32
    his first start since going on the I
  • 00:24:36
    um again I don't know why we're going
  • 00:24:38
    down this road with like what what is
  • 00:24:40
    why are we watching Lance Lind pit still
  • 00:24:43
    uh then Sunny gray coming up on Thursday
  • 00:24:45
    which is a day game and uh then they
  • 00:24:47
    travel to Canada over the weekend
  • 00:24:51
    so you know I I I just want to see new
  • 00:24:54
    blood I just do I I've seen this show
  • 00:24:56
    for two years and I you know we're over
  • 00:24:59
    it and we're ready to see new blood I I
  • 00:25:01
    hope we get to see Thomas and Jai uh
  • 00:25:03
    playing I I don't want to see him just
  • 00:25:05
    rotting on the bench you know with h
  • 00:25:07
    Donovan you know dealing with that
  • 00:25:09
    infection I I hope that we get to see a
  • 00:25:12
    decent amount of Thomas and JC playing
  • 00:25:14
    second base along with uh you know Mason
  • 00:25:16
    went at shortstop so uh we'll see what
  • 00:25:18
    happens there um I want to see new
  • 00:25:21
    pitching you know I want to see some of
  • 00:25:22
    these young guys get a crack and get
  • 00:25:24
    some major league experience why not
  • 00:25:26
    Michael mcgrey again you know why what
  • 00:25:28
    what has he deserved what has he done to
  • 00:25:30
    deserve to be stuck in Memphis anymore
  • 00:25:31
    like here we are creeping up on the
  • 00:25:33
    middle of September you're pretty much
  • 00:25:36
    done what are we doing so we're gonna
  • 00:25:38
    let Lance Lynn and Miles michelas
  • 00:25:40
    continue to pitch like it just doesn't
  • 00:25:41
    make a lot of sense to me uh also want
  • 00:25:44
    to uh address this here real quick uh
  • 00:25:46
    super sad news yesterday to hear about
  • 00:25:49
    the passing of one James Earl Jones that
  • 00:25:53
    that sucked man most of us grew up
  • 00:25:56
    knowing James in some way shape or form
  • 00:25:59
    um Darth Vader obviously the voice of
  • 00:26:02
    Darth Vader in the Star Wars movies um
  • 00:26:05
    Lion King He was the king in Coming to
  • 00:26:09
    America one of the great Eddie Murphy
  • 00:26:11
    movies U but obviously baseballwise his
  • 00:26:14
    uh his roles in Field of Dreams And The
  • 00:26:16
    Sandlot were were awesome you know The
  • 00:26:19
    Sandlot obviously was a cool one because
  • 00:26:21
    you didn't know that was who it was
  • 00:26:22
    going to be you know you didn't you had
  • 00:26:24
    no idea it was uh spoiler alert uh he
  • 00:26:27
    has the cameo in there U as the owner of
  • 00:26:31
    the Beast so um that's uh that that was
  • 00:26:34
    really really cool but of course the
  • 00:26:36
    speech and Field of Dreams that he makes
  • 00:26:39
    um obviously huge the script portion of
  • 00:26:41
    it uh is at the Baseball Hall of Fame
  • 00:26:44
    and um I don't I don't know one guy when
  • 00:26:47
    it comes to Field of Dreams who doesn't
  • 00:26:48
    get a bit emotional with the uh have a
  • 00:26:51
    catch part which is at the end there a
  • 00:26:53
    field of dreams but uh you know the
  • 00:26:55
    speech which leads you into that whole
  • 00:26:57
    section there is obviously a a big
  • 00:26:59
    portion of what that movie is all about
  • 00:27:02
    and um it's good so if the Cardinal
  • 00:27:05
    season has got you down right now okay
  • 00:27:09
    but you're still a baseball fan and
  • 00:27:11
    you're just bummed out because the
  • 00:27:12
    Cardinal aren't who you wanted them to
  • 00:27:14
    be this year maybe flip on Field of
  • 00:27:17
    Dreams to remind yourself why you love
  • 00:27:19
    the game and why watching the Cardinals
  • 00:27:21
    tonight could can still be an enjoyable
  • 00:27:23
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  • 00:27:25
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